Advertisement
If you have a new account but are having problems posting or verifying your account, please email us on hello@boards.ie for help. Thanks :)
Hello all! Please ensure that you are posting a new thread or question in the appropriate forum. The Feedback forum is overwhelmed with questions that are having to be moved elsewhere. If you need help to verify your account contact hello@boards.ie

Tragic Dog Killed by Firework

2456

Comments

  • #32
    Evelyn Cusack
    Closed Accounts Posts: 165 ✭✭Evelyn Cusack


    Dogs are lovely


  • #33
    Evelyn Cusack
    Closed Accounts Posts: 165 ✭✭Evelyn Cusack


    Claregirl wrote: »
    There are no circumstances to my mind where a dog should be chained up.

    I've always had a dog and never resorted to that it would be like chaining one of my kids up. If you cannot contain your pet securely without resorting to a chain within your garden or keep them inside your home you shouldn't have one.

    Not in a rural enviroment petal, they can chase sheep and quite rightly are shot


  • #34
    wandatowell
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,435 ✭✭✭wandatowell


    Gatling wrote: »
    Soooooooo who gets the blame this time

    Nidge or the luas

    Neither, its the single mothers!


  • #35
    syklops
    Closed Accounts Posts: 18,966 ✭✭✭✭syklops


    Evelyn Cusack wrote: »
    Not in a rural enviroment petal, they can chase sheep and quite rightly are shot

    The poster you quoted is claregirl, so clearly she is a city girl.


  • #36
    up for anything
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,790 ✭✭✭up for anything


    Don't people read properly anymore? So many berating the owner for leaving them out on Halloween night when it actually happened on Wednesday according to the article.


  • Advertisement
  • #37
    Roose
    Closed Accounts Posts: 802 ✭✭✭Roose


    Howard Juneau wrote: »
    I think it's a disgrace....who the fck names a dog snoop?!

    Didn't get the thanks that you so desperately crave for that did you? Oh well.


  • #38
    Red Nissan
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,055 ✭✭✭Red Nissan


    up for anything wrote: »
    Don't people read properly anymore? So many berating the owner for leaving them out on Halloween night when it actually happened on Wednesday according to the article.

    That is just being pedantic. Halloween Night was technically last night. As with all things we do in Ireland, anything good, we make a Festival out of it and it lasts a weeks now.

    A local shopping center, a big one, is having their Halloween Parade this coming Saturday at two O'Clock. :pac::pac::pac::pac::pac::pac::pac::pac::pac::pac::pac::pac::pac::pac::pac:


  • #39
    meoklmrk91
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,085 ✭✭✭meoklmrk91


    up for anything wrote: »
    Don't people read properly anymore? So many berating the owner for leaving them out on Halloween night when it actually happened on Wednesday according to the article.

    I think when most people say Halloween they mean at the very least the week preceding Halloween night, thats what I meant anyway, there have been kids leaving bangers off all week, therefore my dog was indoors, out of harms way.


  • #40
    syklops
    Closed Accounts Posts: 18,966 ✭✭✭✭syklops


    up for anything wrote: »
    Don't people read properly anymore? So many berating the owner for leaving them out on Halloween night when it actually happened on Wednesday according to the article.

    Its been like Beirut for the past week in my estate and I live in a very quiet estate filled with old people.


  • #41
    Claregirl
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 533 ✭✭✭Claregirl


    Evelyn Cusack wrote: »
    Not in a rural enviroment petal, they can chase sheep and quite rightly are shot

    As I said earlier if you cannot contain your pet securely without resorting to a chain within your garden or keep them inside your home you shouldn't have one.

    I'm pretty sure people have access to fencing, dog runs etc even in a rural environment.
    up for anything wrote: »
    Don't people read properly anymore? So many berating the owner for leaving them out on Halloween night when it actually happened on Wednesday according to the article.

    I haven't berated the owner for leaving them out on Halloween night but I will berate them for leaving defenceless animals outside chained up at a time when bangers and fireworks are going off.


  • Advertisement
  • #42
    shuffles88
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 239 ✭✭shuffles88


    You don't know the full set of circumstances it may have been necessary for the dog to be tied up sometimes, have some compassion for the kids who witnessed this horrible thing happening. Seeing as they're all so young and the dog was 6 they probably don't remember a time when they hadn't got Snoop in their lives.


  • #43
    mosi
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 620 ✭✭✭mosi


    I can't believe people are defending the use of a chain. Decent fencing should keep a dog in. If your boundary is not secure, then make it secure. Chaining is dangerous and also psychologically damaging for dogs.
    Aside from the use of the chain, there are so many other issues here. Firstly, that the dogs were kept outside, terrified, during this time of year. Secondly, that 6 week old pups were kept outside, full stop. Thirdly, that these people had allowed their dogs to breed, rather than having them neutered and spayed.
    It was an awful thing to happen, a horrible death for the dogs and terrifying for the survivors. I wish that proper enforcement would come in regarding fireworks, with a zero tolerance attitude. One of my dogs was really stressed for a while tonight because of the damn things. However, she had her Thundershirt and rescue remedy, and all three dogs were safely inside tonight as they are every night.


  • #44
    syklops
    Closed Accounts Posts: 18,966 ✭✭✭✭syklops


    shuffles88 wrote: »
    have some compassion for the kids who witnessed this horrible thing happening. Seeing as they're all so young and the dog was 6 they probably don't remember a time when they hadn't got Snoop in their lives.

    You are right. Personally, I do feel for the kids.

    However,
    You don't know the full set of circumstances it may have been necessary for the dog to be tied up sometimes,

    True, however, the article said that one of the pups died in the same incident. So if, for whatever reason, Snoop had to be chained up outside when there are fireworks everywhere, ok, but why were the pups near him?


  • #45
    MadsL
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,299 ✭✭✭✭MadsL


    Evelyn Cusack wrote: »
    Not in a rural enviroment petal, they can chase sheep and quite rightly are shot

    I live in a very rural environment, known as the Horse Capital of New Mexico: Out county just passed an ordinance banning chaining dogs -most owners build dog runs to keep the dogs in and the coyotes out.


  • #46
    Claregirl
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 533 ✭✭✭Claregirl


    shuffles88 wrote: »
    You don't know the full set of circumstances it may have been necessary for the dog to be tied up sometimes, have some compassion for the kids who witnessed this horrible thing happening. Seeing as they're all so young and the dog was 6 they probably don't remember a time when they hadn't got Snoop in their lives.

    Obviously I don't know the full set of circumstances I can only go on what was reported in the news paper and assume this was accurate.

    1) Dog chained up outside
    2) Fireworks / Bangers going off for some period of time in the area.
    3) 10 puppies left outside

    I have nothing but compassion for the kids who witnessed this. It's a truly awful experience to loose a pet and particularly to witness it. Where have I not shown compassion for the kids??????

    If it were not for the careless, irresponsible, cruel actions of the parent/supervising adult they would not have been traumatised in this manner!

    The whole tone of the article related to the fireworks and how tragic it was for those involved and I'm not denying that it is a very tragic story but lets face it fireworks or not Snoop and the puppy would not have died if the dog had not been chained up - they were strangled by the chain


  • #47
    Femme_Fatale
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,628 ✭✭✭Femme_Fatale


    mosi wrote: »
    I can't believe people are defending the use of a chain.
    I don't think they are. Just taking into consideration that there might have been a practical reason for it. I'd never attach a chain to a dog.


  • #48
    Dyr
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,246 ✭✭✭✭Dyr


    Claregirl wrote: »
    Obviously I don't know the full set of circumstances I can only go on what was reported in the news paper and assume this was accurate.

    1) Dog chained up outside
    2) Fireworks / Bangers going off for some period of time in the area.
    3) 10 puppies left outside

    I have nothing but compassion for the kids who witnessed this. It's a truly awful experience to loose a pet and particularly to witness it. Where have I not shown compassion for the kids??????

    If it were not for the careless, irresponsible, cruel actions of the parent/supervising adult they would not have been traumatised in this manner!

    The whole tone of the article related to the fireworks and how tragic it was for those involved and I'm not denying that it is a very tragic story but lets face it fireworks or not Snoop and the puppy would not have died if the dog had not been chained up - they were strangled by the chain

    not to mention the owner having the rely on a kids account becasue they sure as f**k were'nt keeping an eye on the dogs.


  • #49
    mosi
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 620 ✭✭✭mosi


    Femme_Fatale wrote: »
    I don't think they are. Just taking into consideration that there might have been a practical reason for it. I'd never attach a chain to a dog.

    I would equate considering a practical use for a chain as defending its use. I really can't see where there would be a practical use for chaining a dog in a backyard. If a dog is an escape artist, improve the boundary or keep him inside. Whatever the reasons people may give for chaining, there are always more humane and safer alternatives.


  • #50
    zenno
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,377 ✭✭✭zenno


    Definitely a very bad idea having the dog chained in the garden as they do get extremely agitated with the bangers. The owner of these dogs should have had the basic knowledge to bring them in to the house for the night.

    My own rescue dog earlier tonight was running all over the house trying to find a way to hide from the bangers and decided to jump into the bath to hide from the noise. All I could do was shut all windows and wait till the kids and yes adults finished playing with their little bangers for the dog to leave the bath.

    Dogs hearing is so good it sounds like an atom bomb going off with each close-range banger, no wonder they try to run as far away as they can.


  • #51
    AlanS181824
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 5,575 ✭✭✭AlanS181824


    Awh...that's so sad. Rip poor Doggie


  • Advertisement
  • #52
    Evelyn Cusack
    Closed Accounts Posts: 165 ✭✭Evelyn Cusack


    Claregirl wrote: »
    As I said earlier if you cannot contain your pet securely without resorting to a chain within your garden or keep them inside your home you shouldn't have one.
    QUOTE]

    I disagree, I'd prefer to keep one on a long chain in a huge backyard than kept in a shed. But they shouldn't be chained up every night of course. In my opinion.
    Maybe you shouldn't have a pet


  • #53
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    My Mother was bringing the dog out for a walk last night and he heard fireworks (for the first time!) and belted it home. He was shaking in the corner of the sitting room for about half an hour. Was terrified! Our old dog took no notice of fireworks so we had never encountered a reaction like this before...poor thing!


  • #54
    Knine
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,773 ✭✭✭Knine


    So breeding mongrels while so many are dying in pounds, 10 puppies left outside, one dog chained up. Certainly education is needed here & a visit from the DSPCA.

    Poor dogs & little kids. The adults however have a lot to answer for.


  • #55
    tin79
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,270 ✭✭✭tin79


    Stojkovic wrote: »
    Dogs shouldnt be tied up tonight.

    Owners fault, no sympathy for them, idiots.

    My dog was beside me on the couch all night.

    Good for you. This happened on Wednesday BTW.


  • #56
    Knine
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,773 ✭✭✭Knine


    tin79 wrote: »
    Good for you. This happened on Wednesday BTW.

    It is the owners fault. Btw 6 week old puppies should not be outside in a garden.

    No doubt the mongrel puppies will be for sale on DD with silly made up 'Designer' names


  • #57
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    Ugh.

    Can't believe some people in this thread.


  • #58
    Knine
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,773 ✭✭✭Knine


    tin79 wrote: »
    Didn't say it wasn't the owners fault. Was just pointing out that this didn't happen on Halloween night.

    Also, did the owners actually see the firework go off and the dog strangle itself. If they did why did they stand there and watch it happen, why did they just let the dog and puppy die without intervening

    if they didn't see it happen are they just assuming a firework caused it? I cant see how they can be 100% sure of that?

    True. It was not a firework that killed their dogs. It was their own completely irresponsible behaviour. Sure the 10 puppies only 6 weeks old were wandering around a garden. They were also crossbreeds. Responsible people get their dogs neutered to prevent litters.


  • #59
    biko
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 81,219 ✭✭✭✭biko


    It's sad but it was an accident. Dogs should be kept indoor when estate kids toss illegal fireworks around.

    A Thundershirt will help.


  • #60
    Evelyn Cusack
    Closed Accounts Posts: 165 ✭✭Evelyn Cusack


    Deleted User wrote: »
    Ugh.

    Can't believe some people in this thread.

    Tell me about it, people are so quick to point the finger


  • Advertisement
  • #61
    Stojkovic
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 981 ✭✭✭Stojkovic


    awec wrote: »
    No sympathy?

    Their dog just died.

    Have a shred of decency for fcuk sake. No matter what you think of the chain, if you can't sympathise with someone who lost their dog in such circumstances then there's something wrong there.
    Decency ?

    Chaining up a dog and you talk about decency.

    They should be charged with cruelty.


Advertisement