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  • #1142
    POGAN
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 979 ✭✭✭POGAN


    jamesr123 wrote: »
    Jaysus!! Major cringe reading that ****e... no one seems to know what happened to that van why jump to such a stupid conclusion? and I guarantee a claim will be put in.....


    Someone broke a red light went into the side of it


  • #1143
    jamesr123
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 430 ✭✭jamesr123


    POGAN wrote: »
    Someone broke a red light went into the side of it

    So not the heroic bull**** that 'terrontress' was on about.. Hopefully the members are ok. If it was me i'd be claiming that persons insurance. Of all the things to crash into a van with high vis stickers and lights on top lol..


  • #1144
    Terrontress
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,928 ✭✭✭Terrontress


    jamesr123 wrote: »
    So not the heroic bull**** that 'terrontress' was on about.. Hopefully the members are ok. If it was me i'd be claiming that persons insurance. Of all the things to crash into a van with high vis stickers and lights on top lol..

    I have to say, I am very uncomfortable with Gardai claiming personal injury compensation off people for what happens while on duty.


  • #1145
    Zambia
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,333 ✭✭✭Zambia


    Oh this won't end well


  • #1146
    goldie fish
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,195 ✭✭✭goldie fish


    Terrontress wrote: »
    I have to say, I am very uncomfortable with Gardai claiming personal injury compensation off people for what happens while on duty.

    Indeed, they get paid enough as it is, how dare they seek compensation for being shot, beaten, stabbed, spat at, had boiling cooking oil thrown at while on duty.
    Sure an ordinary member of the public is at the exact same risk every day and would never seek compensation if such a thing were to happen to them.

    :rolleyes:


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  • #1147
    lighterman
    Closed Accounts Posts: 320 ✭✭lighterman


    goldie fish wrote: »
    Indeed, they get paid enough as it is, how dare they seek compensation for being shot, beaten, stabbed, spat at, had boiling cooking oil thrown at while on duty.
    Sure an ordinary member of the public is at the exact same risk every day and would never seek compensation if such a thing were to happen to them.

    :rolleyes:
    Out of interest why would you claim for being spat at. Genuine question


  • #1148
    swiftblade
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,551 ✭✭✭swiftblade


    lighterman wrote: »
    Out of interest why would you claim for being spat at. Genuine question

    I would imagine because it's assault? Wouldn't a member of the public try and sue a member of the Gardaí if they spat at them?

    Or, should Gardaí be expected to be spat at?


  • #1149
    lighterman
    Closed Accounts Posts: 320 ✭✭lighterman


    swiftblade wrote: »
    I would imagine because it's assault? Wouldn't a member of the public try and sue a member of the Gardaí if they spat at them?

    Or, should Gardaí be expected to be spat at?

    No they shouldnt as yes as you stated it is assault but neither do i expect it as a security guard.

    Maybe you should talk to the guards who advised me and talked me out of pressing charges against a man with Hepatitis C who spat in my face which got in to my mouth.I was told it wouldnt be worth it as it was only a i believe told a section 3 assault and wouldnt be worth the time bringing him to court.

    I asked would the fact he knowingly had Hep C and the fact i had to do the 3 month tests to get the all clear which i did and i was told no.

    So is it a different law for guards and the general public.

    (Careful stepping down off that horse)


  • #1150
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    Terrontress wrote: »
    What I mean is that the same sort of event which will have your average man in the street out of work for six weeks on stress leave, wearing a surgical collar or have them renouncing driving is bread and butter to your average Garda.

    I'd reckon that by the looks of that damage, the Garda has put the Connect between the scum and where he has wanted to go. Post impact he'll have been more worried about arresting the bastard than a bit of whiplash that most people would put in a €10k claim for.

    And how do you know the Garda in that collision has not/is not out for the same time or longer? We still get injured the same as anybody else. The job gives us legal powers, not super powers.

    Terrontress wrote: »
    I have to say, I am very uncomfortable with Gardai claiming personal injury compensation off people for what happens while on duty.

    Why shouldn't they? They are down earnings, have the same medical fees and traumas as everybody else.


  • #1151
    Terrontress
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,928 ✭✭✭Terrontress


    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    And how do you know the Garda in that collision has not/is not out for the same time or longer? We still get injured the same as anybody else. The job gives us legal powers, not super powers.




    Why shouldn't they? They are down earnings, have the same medical fees and traumas as everybody else.

    I think that the GS should compensate them and, if appropriate, pursue the liable party.


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  • #1152
    Old diesel
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,891 ✭✭✭Old diesel


    Terrontress wrote: »
    I have to say, I am very uncomfortable with Gardai claiming personal injury compensation off people for what happens while on duty.

    Sorry but I have to say - I think its right and proper that if a garda gets injured when on duty - they get compensated for it.

    Personally I don't really care whose doing the paying out of the compensation - whether its the state or an insurance company or a combination of the 2.

    Theres a lot of things in this country im not very comfy with or indeed happy with - but compensating Gardaí for injuries suffered while on duty is not one of them.

    Anytime I ever heard of a garda getting compensation for being injured - its genuinely justified.


  • #1153
    Terrontress
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,928 ✭✭✭Terrontress


    Old diesel wrote: »
    Sorry but I have to say - I think its right and proper that if a garda gets injured when on duty - they get compensated for it.

    Personally I don't really care whose doing the paying out of the compensation - whether its the state or an insurance company or a combination of the 2.

    Theres a lot of things in this country im not very comfy with or indeed happy with - but compensating Gardaí for injuries suffered while on duty is not one of them.

    Anytime I ever heard of a garda getting compensation for being injured - its genuinely justified.

    I don't disagree that they should be compensated but they should not be taking actions individually.


  • #1154
    pa990
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,883 ✭✭✭pa990


    Old diesel wrote: »
    Sorry but I have to say - I think its right and proper that if a garda gets injured when on duty - they get compensated for it.

    Personally I don't really care whose doing the paying out of the compensation - whether its the state or an insurance company or a combination of the 2.

    Theres a lot of things in this country im not very comfy with or indeed happy with - but compensating Gardaí for injuries suffered while on duty is not one of them.

    Anytime I ever heard of a garda getting compensation for being injured - its genuinely justified.

    So... if an builder on a building site is injured due to the guy building the scaffold doing a bad job, its tough titty

    Going by your reasoning !


  • #1155
    pa990
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,883 ✭✭✭pa990


    Terrontress wrote: »
    I don't disagree that they should be compensated but they should not be taking actions individually.

    Well their employer (AGS) isn't going to take any action on their behalf.

    So should the individual garda just sit back and wait for the employer to so something/nothing


  • #1156
    Turner
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 3,933 Mod ✭✭✭✭Turner


    Vehicle Gallery discussion thread!

    back to vehicles please.


  • #1157
    goldie fish
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,195 ✭✭✭goldie fish


    lighterman wrote: »
    Out of interest why would you claim for being spat at. Genuine question

    The risk of contracting hepatitis through bodily fluids from an infected person is exceptionally high. A typical attack of this nature is when a hep-b infected person spits their own blood at a member of AGS. What follows is months of stressful medical tests for the member.


  • #1158
    3fullback
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 825 ✭✭✭3fullback


    Re. airport jeep !

    Anyone explain the jurisdiction of ap v AGS ??


  • #1159
    EireGun
    Closed Accounts Posts: 194 ✭✭EireGun


    3fullback wrote: »
    Re. airport jeep !

    Anyone explain the jurisdiction of ap v AGS ??

    Members of the Airport Police Service have the powers to:

    - Stop and search (this includes persons, their property, vehicles, aircraft and cargo in an airport).
    - Demand a person's biographical details, evidence of ones identity and other relevant information.
    - Detain persons (for such time as is reasonably necessary for the exercise of any of his/her powers under Section 33 Air Navigations & Transport Act 1988)
    - Remove person's/Issue person's banning orders (these are usually issued in cases of Anti-Social Behaviour) to temporarily prohibit a person's re-entry to the airport.
    - Arrest a person on the minister's land—this includes passenger terminals, cargo areas, car parks,on board aircraft, runways, radar sites or on any air navigation installation—this also includes any other roadways, land or property owned, leased or operated by the Dublin Airport Authority or Minister for Transport, even if it is located outside of an airport's security perimeter fence.

    Other powers of enforcement conferred upon them, such as those detailed within the Airport Byelaws. Members of the APS are defined as "competent persons" employed by a Public Authority under Section 18 of Criminal Justice Act 2006 for the purpose of taking & receiving witness statements in the course of their duties.

    Under Section 33 of the Air Navigation and Transport Act 1988 (as amended by the Air Navigation and Transport Act 1998, they can arrest persons in connection with offences under that Act or other legislation. It is an offence to obstruct, impede, assault or impersonate an Authorised Officer (Each warranted member of the police service is classed as an Authorised Officer under law.)

    Each year, Officers of the force effect several hundred arrests for a wide variety of offences, including assault, theft, fraud and breach of the public order. Members of the Airport Police are required to transfer custody of their prisoners over to the Garda Síochána to be prosecuted by the Director of Public Prosecutions.

    Offences committed under the Airports Byelaws detected by the Airport Police can be dealt with by way of reporting for summons to the District court to initiate a prosecution on behalf of the Airport Authority, or by the issue of a fixed penalty notice.

    The APS will respond & initially investigate all reports of criminal offences under the Airports and Aviation Acts 1936 to 2004, Airport bye laws and other legislation within the Airport. Offences deemed as serious or those beyond the capability or capacity of its limited size that are committed within the Airport, such as acts of terrorism, murder, manslaughter, rape, facilitation of illegal immigration or any incident involving the death (suspicious or otherwise) of a person are investigated by the Garda Síochána. However, APS officers will take immediate necessary action prior to the arrival of the Garda Síochána in such cases.

    Airport Police operate in Dublin Airport, Cork Airport, and in Shannon Airport, as do An Garda Siochana.


  • #1160
    kub
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,569 ✭✭✭kub


    Now that Shannon is no longer part of DAA where do the airport police there stand in this equation?


  • #1161
    EireGun
    Closed Accounts Posts: 194 ✭✭EireGun


    kub wrote: »
    Now that Shannon is no longer part of DAA where do the airport police there stand in this equation?

    According to Wikipedia...
    The APS is established, funded and maintained by the owners of Dublin Airport and Cork Airport, the Dublin Airport Authority (DAA) and in Shannon Airport by the Shannon Airport Authority (SAA), both entities are state owned by the Irish Government.


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  • #1162
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    3fullback wrote: »
    Re. airport jeep !

    Anyone explain the jurisdiction of ap v AGS ??

    Take a look back though the pages here. Plenty of 'discussion' on this topic there.


  • #1163
    Zambia
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,333 ✭✭✭Zambia


    -1381698996.JPG
    Dublin Airport Police K9 Unit
    Mitsubishi Pajero 4x4 (3.2 Diesel Engine (200 BHP), Automatic Transmission)

    Ah they spelt K9 wrong....


  • #1164
    goldie fish
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,195 ✭✭✭goldie fish


    Why has it no amber beacon?


  • #1165
    Old diesel
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,891 ✭✭✭Old diesel


    pa990 wrote: »
    So... if an builder on a building site is injured due to the guy building the scaffold doing a bad job, its tough titty

    Going by your reasoning !

    My point is that people should be compensated - its just that I don't care whose doing the actual paying - once someone does actually caugh up the compensation.

    Sorry for the off topic - but I just couldn't let the above post go without further clarification.

    Sorry chaps


  • #1166
    Old diesel
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,891 ✭✭✭Old diesel


    Back on topic

    That Pajero looks like a fine piece of kit.

    Always good to see something new being tried out - and the silver looks well with the Battenberg.

    Hope it does the business for the airport police


  • #1167
    lighterman
    Closed Accounts Posts: 320 ✭✭lighterman


    goldie fish wrote: »
    The risk of contracting hepatitis through bodily fluids from an infected person is exceptionally high. A typical attack of this nature is when a hep-b infected person spits their own blood at a member of AGS. What follows is months of stressful medical tests for the member.

    I'm well aware as indicted in an earlier post
    lighterman wrote: »
    No they shouldnt as yes as you stated it is assault but neither do i expect it as a security guard.

    Maybe you should talk to the guards who advised me and talked me out of pressing charges against a man with Hepatitis C who spat in my face which got in to my mouth.I was told it wouldnt be worth it as it was only a i believe told a section 3 assault and wouldnt be worth the time bringing him to court.

    I asked would the fact he knowingly had Hep C and the fact i had to do the 3 month tests to get the all clear which i did and i was told no.

    So is it a different law for guards and the general public.

    (Careful stepping down off that horse)


  • #1168
    source
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,326 ✭✭✭source


    goldie fish wrote: »
    Why has it no amber beacon?

    Built into the light bar?


  • #1169
    goldie fish
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,195 ✭✭✭goldie fish


    source wrote: »
    Built into the light bar?

    Not good enough airside. needs to be visible from 360 degrees. LED Lightbar is only visible front or rear.


  • #1170
    sgthighway
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,559 ✭✭✭sgthighway


    Why would they need a 4x4 in an Airport?


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  • #1171
    donvito99
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,818 ✭✭✭donvito99


    sgthighway wrote: »
    Why would they need a 4x4 in an Airport?

    There's plenty of grass at the airport.


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