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  • #32
    Dtp1979
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 12,953 ✭✭✭✭Dtp1979


    Ghost Buster wrote: »
    Psssssssssssssssssssssssst. People with heart conditions (for example) can walk a little:rolleyes:

    Psssssssssssssttt they had no sticker on the dash either. They were going in for mc Donald's and taking up a space for a disabled person


  • #33
    gramar
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,045 ✭✭✭✭gramar


    What gets me about disabled spots is that they are always in the best places usually right beside the door. I bet if they were at the other end of the carpark able-bodied people wouldn't park in them so often.


  • #34
    Ghost Buster
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 5,172 ✭✭✭Ghost Buster


    Dtp1979 wrote: »
    Psssssssssssssttt they had no sticker on the dash either. They were going in for mc Donald's and taking up a space for a disabled person
    Ah. Your post is in instalments and hourly updates? I'll wait til you are finished then........


  • #35
    Miss Lockhart
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,639 ✭✭✭Miss Lockhart


    whomitconcerns wrote: »
    Pretty sure you cant park there at all unless you have the sticker in the window....

    On a public road or carpark no, but if in a privately operated carpark (supermarket or shopping centre for example) it's entirely at the owner's discretion. Many are happy enough to be more flexible regarding people without badges but who are clearly unable to walk far using them - that makes it more difficult to regulate though.


  • #36
    Dtp1979
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 12,953 ✭✭✭✭Dtp1979


    Ghost Buster wrote: »
    Ah. Your post is in instalments and hourly updates? I'll wait til you are finished then........

    What's that got to do with u talking sh1te


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  • #37
    ArmaniJeanss
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,306 ✭✭✭✭ArmaniJeanss


    Regular people can park in handicapped spaces if they're just running in to buy smokes or some poptarts for tomorrow.


  • #38
    Duck's hoop
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,530 ✭✭✭Duck's hoop


    Ghost Buster wrote: »
    You win a prize for Wrongest Post of the Day!!!!!!!!
    These spaces are for a whole range of disabilitys. They happen to have a wheel chair image on them but Im sure if it helps we can have the badges blown up to A3 size to include pace maker, ventilators and perhaps some image for MS

    What's my prize?

    The blue badges are administered and managed by the disabled drivers association in Mayo. You will almost always be in possession of a Primary Med Cert if you're a member. This means you're 'wholly or almost wholly without the use of one or both legs' as I've said already.

    Having a pacemaker isn't a disability. MS of course.

    And no matter what you say up there on your wee pedestal, the idea is they're bigger to allow facilitate wheelchair users. Not pacemakers etc.

    Personally I don't give a shīt where they're located as long as I can get in and out of my car.


  • #39
    Ghost Buster
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 5,172 ✭✭✭Ghost Buster


    Duck's hoop wrote: »
    What's my prize?

    The blue badges are administered and managed by the disabled drivers association in Mayo. You will almost always be in possession of a Primary Med Cert if you're a member. This means you're 'wholly or almost wholly without the use of one or both legs' as I've said already.

    Having a pacemaker isn't a disability. MS of course.

    And no matter what you say up there on your wee pedestal, the idea is they're bigger to allow facilitate wheelchair users. Not pacemakers etc.

    Personally I don't give a shīt where they're located as long as I can get in and out of my car.
    Nope. They are bigger as many disabled people use wheel chairs but not specifically so. People with heart conditions, breathing problems, dwarfism, anything which restricts ones ability to walk or walk some distance without discomfort. I personally know several people who are entitled to a disabled parking permit who do not use a wheel chair or any walking aid.


  • #40
    Miss Lockhart
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,639 ✭✭✭Miss Lockhart


    Duck's hoop wrote: »
    What's my prize?

    The blue badges are administered and managed by the disabled drivers association in Mayo. You will almost always be in possession of a Primary Med Cert if you're a member. This means you're 'wholly or almost wholly without the use of one or both legs' as I've said already.

    Having a pacemaker isn't a disability. MS of course.

    And no matter what you say up there on your wee pedestal, the idea is they're bigger to allow facilitate wheelchair users. Not pacemakers etc.

    Personally I don't give a shīt where they're located as long as I can get in and out of my car.

    I know dozens of people with the badges who have nothing wrong with their legs. Just because the Associaion administer the scheme doesn't mean only their members can apply. It's an EU scheme afaik. Of course many badge holders have obvious leg problems wnd many are wheelchair users. But many have/are not.

    The fact the spaces are bigger is to accommodate wheelchairs of course, who said otherwise? Just because you don't care about proximity to the entrance doesn't mean many other badge holders don't. I'm sure many of them couldn't give a sh!t whether the spaces wre wider. Thankfully the scheme tries to accommodate all those who qualify though and not just those most visible.

    Undoubtedly there's an issue with people using disabled spots unnecessarily. But there's also a problem of those without visible disabilities being accused wrongly of doing this. I've lost count (but certainly more than a dozen times) of how many times a friend with an invisible disability has been verbally attacked and threatened for parking ina disabled spot - and they have their badge displayed. Many times it's been a wheelchair user dishing out the abuse.


  • #41
    Duck's hoop
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,530 ✭✭✭Duck's hoop


    Ghost Buster wrote: »
    Nope. They are bigger as many disabled people use wheel chairs but not specifically so. People with heart conditions, breathing problems, dwarfism, anything which restricts ones ability to walk or walk some distance without discomfort. I personally know several people who are entitled to a disabled parking permit who do not use a wheel chair or any walking aid.

    At no point did I say they were specifically for chair users. My point is they are designed with extra space in order to facilitate the awkward manoeuvre of getting a chair out of a car.

    Imo there should be 2 cards and space types. The massive majority of people using them are not chair users.

    Leaving aside the people who are simply using an elderly relative's badge because they're so monumentally indolent and bereft of social responsibility, and the simple arsėholery of parking there because you feel like it, there are those who need a space adjacent to the supermarket etc, but not necessarily the extra space a disabled bay provides.


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  • #42
    Duck's hoop
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,530 ✭✭✭Duck's hoop


    Miss Lockhart wrote: »
    I know dozens of people with the badges who have nothing wrong with their legs.


    That's a major problem. You know more than 24 people who have these badges. There are too many in circulation and they're being abused.

    As to your unfortunate friend suffering these torrents of abuse from wicked wheelchair users I can only sympathise.

    This is obviously a huge issue.


  • #43
    Miss Lockhart
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,639 ✭✭✭Miss Lockhart


    Duck's hoop wrote: »
    That's a major problem. You know more than 24 people who have these badges. There are too many in circulation and they're being abused.

    As to your unfortunate friend suffering these torrents of abuse from wicked wheelchair users I can only sympathise.

    This is obviously a huge issue.
    Yes yes. Your snide comments will definitely help the discussion and improve the problem. Carry on.

    I know dozens because I'm a member of a support association for a condition, many of whose sufferers are entitled to the badge. If you think people who need the badge getting one is a problem then it just sounds like you don't care once your needs are looked after.


  • #44
    Ghost Buster
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 5,172 ✭✭✭Ghost Buster


    Duck's hoop wrote: »
    At no point did I say they were specifically for chair users. My point is they are designed with extra space in order to facilitate the awkward manoeuvre of getting a chair out of a car.

    Imo there should be 2 cards and space types. The massive majority of people using them are not chair users.

    Leaving aside the people who are simply using an elderly relative's badge because they're so monumentally indolent and bereft of social responsibility, and the simple arsėholery of parking there because you feel like it, there are those who need a space adjacent to the supermarket etc, but not necessarily the extra space a disabled bay provides.
    You did however suggest that they should only be available to those
    wholly without use of one or both legs.


  • #45
    Eight Ball
    Closed Accounts Posts: 906 ✭✭✭Eight Ball


    dodderangler wrote: »
    Scumbags rob people, houses etc
    Wouldn't call someone who parks in handicap spot a scumbag. Just an a55hole

    I'd class them as scumbags tbh.


  • #46
    Red Nissan
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,055 ✭✭✭Red Nissan


    Dubl07 wrote: »
    Tell the shops or management of the car-park and encourage them to patrol their disabled parking spots.

    They'd as likely be aggravating their best customers. Disabled spaces are taken because they are always empty.

    IMO, spaces in shopping centers should all be disabled and parent & child and fat people friendly and not just a few nearest the door.


  • #47
    old hippy
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 9,441 ✭✭✭old hippy


    What kind of scumbag calls disabled people "handicapped"?


  • #48
    theblaqueguy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 401 ✭✭theblaqueguy


    I never liked those bags of scum!


  • #49
    Red Nissan
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,055 ✭✭✭Red Nissan


    Eight Ball wrote: »
    I'd class them as scumbags tbh.

    I'd class this as gross overclassing tbh

    OH and a wee word, we are supposed to be living in a classless society, tbh like.


  • #50
    Duck's hoop
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,530 ✭✭✭Duck's hoop


    Miss Lockhart wrote: »
    Yes yes. Your snide comments will definitely help the discussion and improve the problem. Carry on.

    I know dozens because I'm a member of a support association for a condition, many of whose sufferers are entitled to the badge. If you think people who need the badge getting one is a problem then it just sounds like you don't care once your needs are looked after.


    I could not hope to compete with you for snideness.

    If you care to read my post, they may need a space adjacent to the wherever. They do not need extra space. I do not need a space adjacent. But do need extra space.

    I conclude there are administrative issues. There are also people who take them DESPITE the fact there are regular sized spaces adjacent to the wherever.


  • #51
    Howard Juneau
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,901 ✭✭✭Howard Juneau


    old hippy wrote: »
    What kind of scumbag calls disabled people "handicapped"?

    Denis Leary!


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  • #52
    Stella Virgo
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 477 ✭✭Stella Virgo


    tomdempsey200 wrote: »
    andy capp

    getting on a bit.....arent we :D


  • #53
    Duck's hoop
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,530 ✭✭✭Duck's hoop


    Ghost Buster wrote: »
    You did however suggest that they should only be available to those
    wholly without use of one or both legs.

    Incorrect and a gross distortion.


  • #54
    Ghost Buster
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 5,172 ✭✭✭Ghost Buster


    old hippy wrote: »
    What kind of scumbag calls disabled people "handicapped"?
    Well in a few years 'disabled' will be un PC. They are now 'service users' dontcha know.....


  • #55
    Ghost Buster
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 5,172 ✭✭✭Ghost Buster


    Duck's hoop wrote: »
    They're abused wholesale. Not sure what the criteria for getting the badge are but I thought it would be like the Primary Medical Cert i.e. Applicant must be wholly or almost wholly without use of one or both legs.

    Very, very rarely see this person exiting or entering the car. If you're hearing impaired or whatever you don't need specific parking spots.

    The idea is they're wide enough to open the door fully to get a chair out.
    Duck's hoop wrote: »
    Incorrect and a gross distortion.
    Direct quote actually.


  • #56
    Amalgam
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,030 ✭✭✭Amalgam


    Dtp1979 wrote: »
    Cause I saw the fcukers walk away from the car. Just pure ignorance and laziness cause its closer to the building

    You can be walking handicapped. As in, get a display with a condition like Parkinson's. The symptoms can have you walking normally one day, or like a statue the next, depending on how well you're sticking to your medication timetable.


  • #57
    Ghost Buster
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 5,172 ✭✭✭Ghost Buster


    Red Nissan wrote: »
    They'd as likely be aggravating their best customers. Disabled spaces are taken because they are always empty.

    IMO, spaces in shopping centers should all be disabled and parent & child and fat people friendly and not just a few nearest the door.
    Always?
    So a disabled person never ever parks in a disabled space?
    Where do they park so?


  • #58
    Miss Lockhart
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,639 ✭✭✭Miss Lockhart


    Duck's hoop wrote: »
    I could not hope to compete with you for snideness.
    I tried to discuss the topic and share my experiences. You chose to direct snide sarcastic comments at me rather than respond reasonably. If that's how you want to discuss the issue then fair enough.
    Duck's hoop wrote:
    If you care to read my post, they may need a space adjacent to the wherever. They do not need extra space. I do not need a space adjacent. But do need extra space.

    At no point did I say otherwise or suggest you said otherwise. I commented on your "I don't give a ****" statement to express my view that there's more to the scheme than wheelchair users and I give a sh!t that all those qualifying are accommodated.
    Duck's hoop wrote:
    I conclude there are administrative issues. There are also people who take them DESPITE the fact there are regular sized spaces adjacent to the wherever.

    I agree with your conclusion. There are many issues surrounding the scheme. I'm interested in discussing and exploring all of them.


  • #59
    Red Nissan
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,055 ✭✭✭Red Nissan


    Ghost Buster wrote: »
    Always?
    So a disabled person never ever parks in a disabled space?
    Where do they park so?

    It's a parable. It means the turnover of customers per space is greater than the usage level specified. IE for every disabled person customer in a disabled space there are probably a hundred non disabled customers per space per period.


  • #60
    Ghost Buster
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 5,172 ✭✭✭Ghost Buster


    Red Nissan wrote: »
    It's a parable. It means the turnover of customers per space is greater than the usage level specified. IE for every disabled person customer in a disabled space there are probably a hundred non disabled customers per space per period.
    The same with regular spaces.
    Not having enough of either would be silly. Having exactly the required amount is impossible so having more than enough is the only option. Still doesn't give ignorant knuckle dragging scumbags the right to park in them though.

    Oh and its not a parable. A parable is a story which illustrates a point. You were generalising to illustrate an incorrect claim.


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  • #61
    flutered
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 6,765 ✭✭✭flutered


    i have a habit of jamming my front bumper against their bumper, hobble off to a save vantage point, then i admire their confusion when they return, after a short while i return sit in the car and pretend to be deaf, i hand them a pen and paper, when i get their message back i send another one saying i cannot read their writing, often i pretend to have tourettes.


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