Bangernomics car of the week/day part III

dgt · 10-10-2013 11:08PM

Old diesel wrote: »

W126 - very very nice, never been in one - but if the W124s ive been in are any indication - a good W126 must be something lovely to ride in .

On Pandas - when you say coolant - is that the Head gasket issue you get on Puntos.

Thought a 1.1 might have ducked that issue - but I won't let it put me off - all cars have their issues.

They do seem reliable generally from what I see - will have to think about it.

Theres a perfectly adequate car in the yard here I can use - but its not mine - and its boring (2.0 Corolla diesel - non turbo ).

The 280 is sweet to go and is very smooth, the 500 was something else

Yes, the same issue. Mind you I don't hear near as many stories of hg failures on Pandas but still no harm to keep on top of the coolant system, prevention better than cure etc

Old diesel · 10-10-2013 11:22PM

They are not everyones cup of tea these vectras

But if this actually is a 1.8 (I thought the 1.8s were an elegance or some higher spec) then if it all checks out it could be an okay family car.

I don't think they are a bad car - and if it all checks out and is got at the right money - it could be okay.

http://cars.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/opel-vectra-new-model-new-nct/5811467

johndaman66 · 11-10-2013 09:17AM

Old diesel wrote: »

They are not everyones cup of tea these vectras

But if this actually is a 1.8 (I thought the 1.8s were an elegance or some higher spec) then if it all checks out it could be an okay family car.

I don't think they are a bad car - and if it all checks out and is got at the right money - it could be okay.

http://cars.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/opel-vectra-new-model-new-nct/5811467

I've drove a couple of Vectra B's (previous model) in my day. At best they were strictly average. Relatively comfortable and economical if you were to pitch them against comparable cars. They are far far from the most durable car out there.

It had being remarked to me a few times that them vectra c's weren't quite as good as the vectra b in terms of reliability anyway so don't think that would leave them in a very good place if thats the case.

Still though as an all rounder and in particular paying heed to the asking price on that one I reckon you could do worse for your money. Get it for a grand and you'd be away in a hack. If checking it over I'd pay particular heed to the coolant bottle, any oily sludge in that and I'd be on me bike. Also make sure there is a constant stream of hot air coming from the heater and the temp needle doesn't bounce all over the shop.

furtzy · 11-10-2013 10:05AM

Old diesel wrote: »

They are not everyones cup of tea these vectras

But if this actually is a 1.8 (I thought the 1.8s were an elegance or some higher spec) then if it all checks out it could be an okay family car.

I don't think they are a bad car - and if it all checks out and is got at the right money - it could be okay.

http://cars.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/opel-vectra-new-model-new-nct/5811467

The 1.8's in that vintage were pretty bad on petrol. I was only getting 25mpg around town in mine. They brought out a much better vvt version in 04 I think. Aprt from that they are a well built fairly reliable car. I had 3 of them

Cantona's Collars · 11-10-2013 11:21AM

1.8 Diesel Focus http://www.adverts.ie/car/ford/focus/ford-focus/3930786

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NCT til August '14.

The seller just accepted €1000 for it.

bear1 · 11-10-2013 12:31PM

NCT but no mention of tax:

http://cars.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/alfa-156-1-9-jtd/5813884

bear1 · 11-10-2013 12:46PM

I wonder where he got the VRT valuation from:

http://cars.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/03-mitsubishi-carima-1-9-did-tdi-classic/5784305

Cause the VRT calculator says its over 800e to clear :rolleyes:

Cantona's Collars · 11-10-2013 01:27PM

05 MG ZS, €1400 with fresh NCT.

http://www.adverts.ie/car/mg/zs/2005-mg-zs-for-sale/3934103

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kupus · 11-10-2013 02:48PM

http://www.adverts.ie/car/saab/93/2005-saab-93-for-sale/3930030
2500 if i was there now id be down like a flash and take it. Id say it will be gone by the weekend

edit no tax, and should put this in the other thread but feck it ill leave it here now. im not going to delete it

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unkel · 11-10-2013 02:54PM

zerks wrote: »

05 MG ZS, €1400 with fresh NCT.

Fresh NCT meaning until August '15

@kupus - I doubt you can buy the Saab for under €2k. Great car for the money, but it's not bangernomics...

kupus · 11-10-2013 03:07PM

yeah i know hence the edit. I opened wrong thread.

Saab Ed · 11-10-2013 05:46PM

unkel wrote: »

Fresh NCT meaning until August '15

Great car for the money, but it's not bangernomics...

Nah they're pretty shiote compared to the older stuff. They creak, they break, the plastics are sub Toyota/Korean, the suspension falls out of them and they are not that nice of a place to be in.

Better to spend your money on a well kept 9-5 or wait for a facelift 9-3 which was a far superior car.

Saab Ed · 11-10-2013 10:09PM

Sure why not ....

http://cars.donedeal.ie/for-sale/cars/5767181

dgt · 11-10-2013 10:14PM

Saab Ed wrote: »

Sure why not ....

http://cars.donedeal.ie/for-sale/cars/5767181

Looks very nice inside

cadaliac · 11-10-2013 10:14PM

@ Kupus,
sorry to drag this off Topic, but why in gods name can't the seller wash the f*cking car !
Speaks volumes about the seller imo.

JohnBoy26 · 11-10-2013 10:22PM

cadaliac wrote: »

@ Kupus,
sorry to drag this off Topic, but why in gods name can't the seller wash the f*cking car !
Speaks volumes about the seller imo.

I've gone to view a few cars in the past that were dirty in the pics and they turned out to be two of the more genuine examples I've seen.

The other few examples I've seen were at dealers and were tarted up junk, polished to the hilt but rough underneath the shine.

A neighbour of mine has a 99 avensis from new which was never washed from day one until last year, not a swirl mark in sight:D

dgt · 11-10-2013 10:23PM

cadaliac wrote: »

@ Kupus,
sorry to drag this off Topic, but why in gods name can't the seller wash the f*cking car !
Speaks volumes about the seller imo.

Not overly dirty. Have seen far worse myself

NCT till July, 1950

dgt · 11-10-2013 10:27PM

NCT till Jan, 1750

Taxed till Jan

unkel · 11-10-2013 10:29PM

dgt wrote: »

Not overly dirty. Have seen far worse myself

Nice. You'd almost think it was a Jag

Edit: next one a proper Jaguar. Much better value for money too

dgt · 11-10-2013 10:29PM

NCT Till March, 1275

unkel · 11-10-2013 10:35PM

dgt wrote: »

NCT Till March, 1275

The guy who bought mine got a much nicer car with far less mileage for less than that. With 4 brand new tyres (Chinese

). With much nicer proper Saab wheels too

Edit - I kinda miss my Saab. A little bit. Not as much as my youngest daughter who is unimpressed with my current car and wants the Saab back (or so she tells me on a daily basis

)

jharr100 · 11-10-2013 10:40PM

unkel wrote: »

The guy who bought mine got a much nicer car with far less mileage for less than that. With 4 brand new tyres (Chinese ). With much nicer proper Saab wheels too

Edit - I kinda miss my Saab. A little bit. Not as much as my youngest daughter who is unimpressed with my current car and wants the Saab back (or so she tells me on a daily basis )

I really miss my 9-5 too .
Lovely smoith auto box..
Don't miss the fuel bills..

cadaliac · 11-10-2013 10:42PM

JohnBoy26 wrote: »

I've gone to view a few cars in the past that were dirty in the pics and they turned out to be two of the more genuine examples I've seen.

The other few examples I've seen were at dealers and were tarted up junk, polished to the hilt but rough underneath the shine.

A neighbour of mine has a 99 avensis from new which was never washed from day one until last year, not a swirl mark in sight:D

Yes agreed, however, you get my point....
It makes a difference. You can tell the advertisements that are dealers and the ones that are genuine sellers that just want rid of the car. They couldn't be bothered to wash, tax or NCT it. They just want it out of the yard/drive.
You can get some diamonds like that.
However, someone who thinks that the car will sell on its own (VAG Diesel or Toyota :rolleyes:) or whatever, just couldn't be bothered to wash the car 'cause it will sell anyway.....
Jesus - it drives me mad. Anyway, washing the car helps the sale. Having it dirty doesn't. You can choose.

JohnBoy26 · 11-10-2013 10:56PM

cadaliac wrote: »

Yes agreed, however, you get my point....
It makes a difference. You can tell the advertisements that are dealers and the ones that are genuine sellers that just want rid of the car. They couldn't be bothered to wash, tax or NCT it. They just want it out of the yard/drive.
You can get some diamonds like that.
However, someone who thinks that the car will sell on its own (VAG Diesel or Toyota :rolleyes:) or whatever, just couldn't be bothered to wash the car 'cause it will sell anyway.....
Jesus - it drives me mad. Anyway, washing the car helps the sale. Having it dirty doesn't. You can choose.

I definitely agree on washing the car when putting it up for sale.

The point I was making was that the cars I thought looked rough from the pics actually turned out to be in pretty good condition under the layer of dirt.

Now I know it doesn't always work like this but I wouldn't dismiss a car with a bit of dirt on it until I've viewed it.

unkel · 11-10-2013 11:00PM

That ^^^

I'm not into washing my cars at all. Let alone polishing / detailing them. Shame on me. I'm also the worlds worst photographer. This doesn't help me when I'm selling my cars so I have to rely on buyers like JohnBoy26 who can see through this...

Zcott · 11-10-2013 11:07PM

There are enough car washes around the country so you're probably no more than a few miles from the nearest one. Worth a few quid if you're hoping to sell, IMO...

Scortho · 11-10-2013 11:25PM

unkel wrote: »

That ^^^

I'm not into washing my cars at all. Let alone polishing / detailing them. Shame on me. I'm also the worlds worst photographer. This doesn't help me when I'm selling my cars so I have to rely on buyers like JohnBoy26 who can see through this...

Ah now dgt could give you a run for the money.

Old diesel · 11-10-2013 11:30PM

johndaman66 wrote: »

I've drove a couple of Vectra B's (previous model) in my day. At best they were strictly average. Relatively comfortable and economical if you were to pitch them against comparable cars. They are far far from the most durable car out there.

It had being remarked to me a few times that them vectra c's weren't quite as good as the vectra b in terms of reliability anyway so don't think that would leave them in a very good place if thats the case.

Still though as an all rounder and in particular paying heed to the asking price on that one I reckon you could do worse for your money. Get it for a grand and you'd be away in a hack. If checking it over I'd pay particular heed to the coolant bottle, any oily sludge in that and I'd be on me bike. Also make sure there is a constant stream of hot air coming from the heater and the temp needle doesn't bounce all over the shop.

Yup like I said - Vectras aren't everyones cups of tea.

And okay - I do get that the C wasn't perfect reliability wise - but I thought (lol) that the big massive issues were the 150 bhp 1.9 CDTI swirl flaps, the 2.2 petrol timing chain lubrication issues (which I thought there was a fix for but not sure) - the odd electrical tantrum plus heavy on suspension.

Okay im sure theres a few other niggly things on them - but from what I recall - the 1.9 150 swirl flaps and the 2.2 petrol issues - and some issues with dual mass flywheels - were the only big - don't touch one of these ever type issues.

I suppose what has them up on my radar as potential candidates for this tread is that I see them as being a newer model just coming into bangernomics range - and were part of a newer generation of cars from the motor industry that moved things forward in terms of safety.

So you were moving from 1999 cars with 2/3 stars NCAP safety ratings to the 02/03 newer gen cars (cars in general not just Vectras) with 4 to 5 star NCAP safety ratings.

Im sure someone will be along to tell me that actually the Vectra only has a 2 star rating for some reason

.

In all honesty though - ive always being under the impression that the Vectra C - in say petrol form (2.2 aside) were fairly reliable

jharr100 · 11-10-2013 11:48PM

SAAB 9-3 convertible,, 1950 only 79K FSH

http://cars.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/saab-93-2-0l-se-convertible/5813343

Saab Ed · 12-10-2013 05:50PM

Expensive but rare older auto diesel. Worth a llook and a haggle.

http://cars.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/audi-a4-diesel/5821303

Bangernomics car of the week/day part III

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