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10 round numbers- How many of these can you run in 2013?
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Name|400m<60 secs|800m<150 secs|1 mile<5 min|3k<10min|5k<20min|5mile<30min|10k<40m|10miles<1hr|Half Marathon<90mins|Marathon<3hrs
Clear Thinking|||||18:31|||||
pconn062|||||18:07||38:40|||
blockic||2:23.6|||17:47||37:42||79:31|2:58:07
dna_leri|55.08|2.02.45|4:49||16:29|||||
Pisco Sour|56.26|2:19.3||||||||
Krusty_clown|||04:54|9:56|16:23|27:54|34:49|57:18|76:04|2:38:50
RayCun|||||18.11|29.14|||82:17|
ecoli||2.10.43|4.54.39||17.06|28.39|36.48||1.25.14|
KielyUnusual||2.11.02|4.52|9.36|16.42|28.13|34.23||76.13|2:38.50
DrQuirky|||||16:41|27:55||59.02|78:24
menoscemo|||||18:22||38:29||86:32|
RunForestRun|||||17:40|27:54|36:15||79:52|2:50:50
Gavlor|||||17.34|27.42|36:36||82.43|
beeduybe|||||19:22||||89:09|
Tom Joad|||||19:35||||
robinph||2:21.6|||17:36|28:55|36:09|59:51|1:22:12|2:56:54
jebuz|||||17:21|29:45||||2:54:46
TFBubendorfer|||||17:51|29:35|38:54|||2:55:07
irfrm||||||29:59|38:43||86:02||
PaulieYifter|||||18:54||38:46||85:30||
BeepBeep67||2:27.7||9:59|17:28|28:42|36:00||83:48|2:57:50|
Dilbert75|||||19.35||39:42||||
Oregano_State|54.58|||||||||
Peckham|||||17:29||39:11|||
elPadrino|||||18:35|||||
hypersonic |||||||37:11|||
wrstan|||||17:49||39:23||1:29:20|
MisterDrak|||||18:41||39:07||88:27|
rom|||||17:52||||87:56|
spurscormac|||||19:59|||||
Itziger|||||18:59||37:48||1:24:58|
pa4||2:05.73|||16:25||35:25|58:55|||
Basster|||||19:09||39:32||||
thewolf_ie|||||18:50||39:26||88:17||
Green&Red|||||19:21||39.58||||
ciancullinan|||||||38:16||||
Conavitzky|||||17:52||38:23||89:45||
Marathon teased me earlier in the year, but gotcha now!
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Clear Thinking|||||18:31|||||
pconn062|||||18:07||38:40|||
blockic||2:23.6|||17:47||37:42||79:31|2:58:07
dna_leri|55.08|2.02.45|4:49||16:29|||||
Chivito550|55.91|2:19.3||||||||
Krusty_clown|||04:54|9:56|16:23|27:54|34:49|57:18|76:04|2:38:50
RayCun|||||18.11|29.14|||82:17|
ecoli||2.10.43|4.54.39||17.06|28.39|36.48||1.25.14|
KielyUnusual||2.11.02|4.52|9.36|16.42|28.13|34.23||76.13|2:38.50
DrQuirky|||||16:41|27:55||59.02|78:24|2:50:39
menoscemo|||||18:22||38:29||86:32|
RunForestRun|||||17:40|27:54|36:15||79:52|2:50:50
Gavlor|||||17.34|27.42|36:36||82.43|
beeduybe|||||19:22||||89:09|
Tom Joad|||||19:35||||
robinph||2:21.6|||17:36|28:55|36:09|59:51|1:22:12|2:56:54
jebuz|||||17:21|29:45||||2:54:46
TFBubendorfer|||||17:51|29:35|38:54|||2:55:07
irfrm||||||29:59|38:43||86:02||
PaulieYifter|||||18:54||38:46||85:30||
BeepBeep67||2:27.7||9:59|17:28|28:42|36:00||83:48|2:57:50|
Dilbert75|||||19.35||39:42||||
Oregano_State|54.58|||||||||
Peckham|||||17:29||39:11|||
elPadrino|||||18:35|||||
hypersonic |||||||37:11|||
wrstan|||||17:49||39:23||1:29:20|
MisterDrak|||||18:41||39:07||88:27|
rom|||||17:52||||87:56|
spurscormac|||||19:59|||||
Itziger|||||18:59||37:48||1:24:58|
pa4||2:05.73|||16:25||35:25|58:55|||
Basster|||||19:09||39:32||||
thewolf_ie|||||18:50||39:26||88:17||
Green&Red|||||19:21||39.58||||
ciancullinan|||||||38:16||||
Conavitzky|||||17:52||38:23||89:45||
Finally nabbed that Pesky 55!
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Damnit. Now I have to go back and catch up on the last three months of posts on your training log. Congrats!Chivito550 wrote: »Finally nabbed that Pesky 55!0 -
Name|400m<60 secs|800m<150 secs|1 mile<5 min|3k<10min|5k<20min|5mile<30min|10k<40m|10miles<1hr|Half Marathon<90mins|Marathon<3hrs
Clear Thinking|||||18:31|||||
pconn062|||||18:07||38:40|||
blockic||2:23.6|||17:47||37:42||79:31|2:58:07
dna_leri|55.08|2.02.45|4:49||16:29|||||
Chivito550|55.91|2:15.2||||||||
Krusty_clown|||04:54|9:56|16:23|27:54|34:49|57:18|76:04|2:38:50
RayCun|||||18.11|29.14|||82:17|
ecoli||2.10.43|4.54.39||17.06|28.39|36.48||1.25.14|
KielyUnusual||2.11.02|4.52|9.36|16.42|28.13|34.23||76.13|2:38.50
DrQuirky|||||16:41|27:55||59.02|78:24|2:50:39
menoscemo|||||18:22||38:29||86:32|
RunForestRun|||||17:40|27:54|36:15||79:52|2:50:50
Gavlor|||||17.34|27.42|36:36||82.43|
beeduybe|||||19:22||||89:09|
Tom Joad|||||19:35||||
robinph||2:21.6|||17:36|28:55|36:09|59:51|1:22:12|2:56:54
jebuz|||||17:21|29:45||||2:54:46
TFBubendorfer|||||17:51|29:35|38:54|||2:55:07
irfrm||||||29:59|38:43||86:02||
PaulieYifter|||||18:54||38:46||85:30||
BeepBeep67||2:27.7||9:59|17:28|28:42|36:00||83:48|2:57:50|
Dilbert75|||||19.35||39:42||||
Oregano_State|54.58|||||||||
Peckham|||||17:29||39:11|||
elPadrino|||||18:35|||||
hypersonic |||||||37:11|||
wrstan|||||17:49||39:23||1:29:20|
MisterDrak|||||18:41||39:07||88:27|
rom|||||17:52||||87:56|
spurscormac|||||19:59|||||
Itziger|||||18:59||37:48||1:24:58|
pa4||2:05.73|||16:25||35:25|58:55|||
Basster|||||19:09||39:32||||
thewolf_ie|||||18:50||39:26||88:17||
Green&Red|||||19:21||39.58||||
ciancullinan|||||||38:16||||
Conavitzky|||||17:52||38:23||89:45||
Time to swap in that dusty old number and upgrade to a much more respectable looking 800m PB.
Race went perfect really. Went off a bit fast in 31.5 but went through the bell in 67, and both my next 200s were 33/34 ish. Even splits pretty much at 67 seconds.
A nice sign of things to come whenever I make the move up to 800m, which hopefully won't be for a few years.
With the 10 round numbers being heavily favoured towards distance runners, these 2 will remain the only ones I knock off. However, for interest sake I had a look on the IAAF tables to see what this 800m time equates to over the mile at it comes to a 5:02. Not for a second saying I could run that right now. There is no chance I could off 400 training, but it does bring back memories of that infamous thread a few years back where a certain poster (who will remain nameless) said I hadn't a hope in hell of getting remotely close to it.
I propose we make the 800m target 140 seconds next year. Still a round number, but more of a challenge.0 -
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That's a great time. Well done! On the subject of being geared towards distance runners, I would've thought that it has a pretty reasonable distribution across the range. The fact that nobody has managed to complete the set speaks volumes for the fact that it's a already a pretty reasonable challenge.Chivito550 wrote: »Time to swap in that dusty old number and upgrade to a much more respectable looking 800m PB.
Race went perfect really. Went off a bit fast in 31.5 but went through the bell in 67, and both my next 200s were 33/34 ish. Even splits pretty much at 67 seconds.
A nice sign of things to come whenever I make the move up to 800m, which hopefully won't be for a few years.
With the 10 round numbers being heavily favoured towards distance runners, these 2 will remain the only ones I knock off. However, for interest sake I had a look on the IAAF tables to see what this 800m time equates to over the mile at it comes to a 5:02. Not for a second saying I could run that right now. There is no chance I could off 400 training, but it does bring back memories of that infamous thread a few years back where a certain poster (who will remain nameless) said I hadn't a hope in hell of getting remotely close to it.
I propose we make the 800m target 140 seconds next year. Still a round number, but more of a challenge.
On the subject of tweaking the 800m target: one could just as easily argue the case of bringing in the 5k target to 18 minutes (it shares the same relationship to the 10k, as the 800m does to the mile (give or take a couple of metres)), but that would eliminate half of the achievements in the 5k table. Same goes for the 90 minute half marathon target. It would only serve to remove participation form those events (and offer stimulus to a very few people). Your proposal is a little self-indulgent (like me completing a sub 2:40 marathon and coming back the next day, to say that the target should be moved to sub 2:45).0 -
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KielyUnusual wrote: »
Chivito, you're giving out about the shorter distance events not being challenging enough and you're not even willing to give the other 8 events a go because they are too challenging for you. The 800m might be one of the easier ones on the board but it's certainly a reasonable challenge that would take a decent level of fitness to accomplish. It's not like you absolutely smashed the two and a half minute target anyway like some of the middle distance specialists on here.
With the exception of the 10 mile, there is not a single other distance on that table that I have not attempted during my life. I used to run 5K's, 10K's, half and full marathons (incredibly badly) before I turned to the track. Even lately I have run a number of mile time trials as part of my winter training. I have run a 1500m race (close enough) at the end of a decathlon. I even ran a 5 mile race organised by my club (well 8km, but again, close enough) during my off season, in the remarkable time of 36 minutes, although the surface it was run on probably added a minute or two to my time.
I said earlier that the challenge favours distance runners. This is not a complaint, it is just a statement of fact, and I recall it being mentioned by others earlier in the thread. Think about it, if you come from your side of things (Marathon, extremely aerobic) it is no real skin off your back to attempt anything from 800m up to half marathon. Even the 800m, while very short, still has a huge aerobic element to it. The 400m is the exception for you of course, and is the one event which is completely different for you. For myself on the otherhand, who runs 400m as my main event, to make the step up to making reasonable attempts at the other targets, particularly the longer ones is close to impossible. To do well in these events you need mileage, and lots of it. By running 50-60 miles a week or whatever I will succeed in slowing myself down over one lap. It makes no sense for me to try these distances. It would be akin to you dropping all your mileage and replacing it with deadlifts, squats and bench press. I'm pretty certain you wouldn't consider doing that.
I've always said that it is easier to step down and try a distance which you are not comfortable with than it is to step up and do likewise. This is why good 800m runners can manage a good 400, but good 400m runners are less likely to manage a good 800m. There is a small aerobic element in the 400m which a distance runner coming down can work with. There is nothing anaerobic about a marathon!
Again, I am not complaining about the challenge favouring distance runners. I don't think it is a bad thing. I was just stating it when saying that 2 of these was all that I would be managing (though a sub 3 kilometre would be something I would feel confident of achieving had it stayed as one of these challenges).
I accept people's point about the 800m target staying at 2:30, and it is still a reasonable target for a sub 3 marathonner coming well down in distance. One thing though, the difference between 2:15 and 2:30 is equivalent to a 24 minute difference in a marathon. If somebody ran 24 minutes inside a marathon target no doubt you would say he/she smashed it. 0 -
Chivito550 wrote: »I accept people's point about the 800m target staying at 2:30, and it is still a reasonable target for a sub 3 marathonner coming well down in distance. One thing though, the difference between 2:15 and 2:30 is equivalent to a 24 minute difference in a marathon. If somebody ran 24 minutes inside a marathon target no doubt you would say he/she smashed it.
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Here's a report on a recent mile attempt, a Christmas present for the critics who say I don't attempt enough distance runner events on this table.
Sub 5 is never on the cards off 400m training. Ran 5:29 which given the lack of competition and a 300m in the legs 30 minutes earlier, was as good as I expected, and pretty much matches up to the 5:04 1500m at the end of decathlon in February. If I had a proper knowledgeable pacer who I could just tag onto then 5:15 right now is there I think, but in these circumstances it was never going to happen.0 -
Name|400m<60 secs|800m<150 secs|1 mile<5 min|3k<10min|5k<20min|5mile<30min|10k<40m|10miles<1hr|Half Marathon<90mins|Marathon<3hrs
Clear Thinking|||||18:31|||||
pconn062|||||17:49||38:23|||
blockic||2:23.6|||17:47||37:42||79:31|2:58:07
dna_leri|55.08|2.02.45|4:49||16:29|||||
Chivito550|55.00|2:15.2||||||||
Krusty_clown|||04:54|9:56|16:23|27:54|34:49|57:18|76:04|2:38:50
RayCun|||||18.11|29.14|||82:17|
ecoli||2.10.43|4.54.39||17.06|28.39|36.48||1.25.14|
KielyUnusual||2.11.02|4.52|9.36|16.42|28.13|34.23||76.13|2:38.50
DrQuirky|||||16:41|27:55||59.02|78:24|2:50:39
menoscemo|||||18:22||38:29||86:32|
RunForestRun|||||17:40|27:54|36:15||79:52|2:50:50
Gavlor|||||17.34|27.42|36:36||82.43|
beeduybe|||||19:22||||89:09|
Tom Joad|||||19:35||||
robinph||2:21.6|||17:36|28:55|36:09|59:51|1:22:12|2:56:54
jebuz|||||17:21|29:45||||2:54:46
TFBubendorfer|||||17:51|29:35|38:54|||2:55:07
irfrm||||||29:59|38:43||86:02||
PaulieYifter|||||18:54||38:46||85:30||
BeepBeep67||2:27.7||9:59|17:28|28:42|36:00||83:48|2:57:50|
Dilbert75|||||19.35||39:42||||
Oregano_State|54.58|||||||||
Peckham|||||17:29||39:11|||
elPadrino|||||18:35|||||
hypersonic |||||||37:11|||
wrstan|||||17:49||39:23||1:29:20|
MisterDrak|||||18:41||39:07||88:27|
rom|||||17:52||||87:56|
spurscormac|||||19:59|||||
Itziger|||||18:59||37:48||1:24:58|
pa4||2:05.73|||16:25||35:25|58:55|||
Basster|||||19:09||39:32||||
thewolf_ie|||||18:50||39:26||88:17||
Green&Red|||||19:21||39.58||||
ciancullinan|||||||38:16||||
Conavitzky|||||17:38||38:23||89:45||
Finishing up a long year of racing in style! Just one pesky hundredth of a second from the perfect finish. 0 -
With all that talk about more challenges for the fast folks I might as well argue that there should be some targets for us ultra joggers as well
sub-5 39.3 miles
sub-7 50 miles
sub-8:30 100k
sub-17 100 miles
All roughly equivalent to a sub-3 marathon
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TFBubendorfer wrote: »With all that talk about more challenges for the fast folks I might as well argue that there should be some targets for us ultra joggers as well
sub-5 39.3 miles
sub-7 50 miles
sub-8:30 100k
sub-17 100 miles
All roughly equivalent to a sub-3 marathon
Isn't finishing one an achievement in itself.?0
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