Dublin GAA Discussion Thread - 2013

Pierce_1991 · 05-10-2013 09:09AM

GK1001 wrote: »

Good number of nominations alright...don't know if there will be any certainties outside of Cluxton, MDMA, and Brogan though. Per usual they've played a bit of silly buggers with the positions so that certain players don't lose out despite them not playing much/any of the season in their all star position...not bothered too much though, good to see the best players getting the recognition

As is said every year the final has a huge weighting in the POTY award...no O'Shea and to a lesser extent Canvanagh and Cooper. Keegan had a brilliant game in the final so fair fvcks to him.

Paul Flynn has got to be a shoe in, as does Rory O'Carroll I would have said. Also the fact that Cian O'Sullivan is nominated as a half back probably tells you he'll pick up an award.

Very surprised Cluxton got the POTY nomination ahead of Aidan O'Shea. Cluxton conceded a fair few goals in the championship last year, more than in previous years and his free taking was solid if unspectacular. Seems a bit strange he'd get the nod ahead of someone like O'Shea who could have arguably won the award. Presumably MDMA will get it anyway.

Stoner · 05-10-2013 10:57AM

Pierce_1991 wrote: »

Paul Flynn has got to be a shoe in, as does Rory O'Carroll I would have said. Also the fact that Cian O'Sullivan is nominated as a half back probably tells you he'll pick up an award.

Very surprised Cluxton got the POTY nomination ahead of Aidan O'Shea. Cluxton conceded a fair few goals in the championship last year, more than in previous years and his free taking was solid if unspectacular. Seems a bit strange he'd get the nod ahead of someone like O'Shea who could have arguably won the award. Presumably MDMA will get it anyway.

I agree with your position on Cluxton, but not AOS, thought he was great when Mayo were motoring but missing against Dublin and Tyrone. SOS showed up in the important games for Mayo. I hope he picks up an award.

LeoB · 05-10-2013 01:07PM

I think Cluxton will get POTY. He is simply superb at just about everything he does.

His distribution has been better this year than anytime before. His kick-outs and general distribution were vital all year and were mainly responsible for beating Mayo, (Although I think he came to quick for goal in 2nd half). We dominated when we needed to because his selection of passes to players launched Dublin attacks and took Mayo players completely out of the game. MDMA and Paul Flynn are shoe-ins.

corny · 05-10-2013 03:10PM

Stoner wrote: »

I agree with your position on Cluxton, but not AOS, thought he was great when Mayo were motoring but missing against Dublin and Tyrone. SOS showed up in the important games for Mayo. I hope he picks up an award.

He did allow Bastick to run in behind him for the deciding score of the game though. Cian O' Sullivan bounced both of them off for an important score too. Bar the first 15 minutes the two of them were well beaten by the Dublin pair.

Lot of talk about a lot of the Mayo players but for me COS, MDM and Sean Cavanagh are far more deserving All Stars in midfield.

keane2097 · 05-10-2013 03:26PM

Sean Cavanagh and MDM are the two outstanding midfielders this season easily.

cat in the sack · 05-10-2013 09:32PM

Aidan O'Shea was top class to this year.

bobbysands81 · 05-10-2013 11:12PM

Cluxton for Player of the Year for me, nobody is even close to Cluxton when it comes to influencing how a team plays and how it wins.

corny · 06-10-2013 12:12AM

bobbysands81 wrote: »

Cluxton for Player of the Year for me, nobody is even close to Cluxton when it comes to influencing how a team plays and how it wins.

I think thats completely overstating it.

Yes Cluxton strikes the ball beautifully and is very accurate in finding his man but its easy to lose sight of the fact that Dublin, as a team, work damn hard to create the space in the first place.

A couple of examples. I lost count of how many times in the second half against Mayo Cluxton found a man breaking towards the Cusack Stand. Easy to forget thats all planned. The rest aren't running towards the Hogan for the laugh.

Likewise against Cork. Dublin flooded to the wings only for Cluxton to drill it up the middle to Connolly or KK breaking from the forward line.

Like i said there's endless skill in Cluxton's accuracy but he's not the magic man finding players at will. All of that is a team effort perfected in training.

DoctaDee · 06-10-2013 11:08AM

Pissings of rain kept me away from Club Champs this week - but got up yesterday afternoon to IFC of Na Fianna/Syls .. Na Fianna squeaking thru in extra time - btw think DCB are pullin da wire with the admittance prices :mad:

Anyways on the All Stars chat - I'd be very surprised if ROC wasn't given one, I thought he was immense throughout in what was at times a flaky back line (not necessarily the fault of those there but their exposure by others)

Gerry91 · 06-10-2013 11:46AM

cat in the sack wrote: »

Aidan O'Shea was top class to this year.

As a Mayo fan he was top class in the Donegal game- of that there's no doubt- but he was really overhyped apart from that

Seamus played better than him in every other game for me. Aidan did fine in Connacht but was up against nothing in any game. It was only towards the latter stages of the qualifiers the Galway midfield began to find their feet

He was disappointing in the semi and final, just when he was needed most really

I'd go as far as saying I'd have no real qualms if he was actually left out next year myself. Saying that when he's on form hes better all round than Seamus, and sadly I can't see Seamus being as influential again (lets face it he came from nowhere this year- he wasnt much more than solid in 2011)

I think Barry Moran is our best all round midfielder. He caused ye plenty of problems and all last year

In other news- I saw that Crokes goal on Joe.ie. Madness, how the hell was it disallowed? Pity that clown wasn't reffing the AI final we'd be bringing Sam home to Mayo lads with that Brogan goal being disallowed

haha

Syferus · 06-10-2013 12:50PM

keane2097 wrote: »

Sean Cavanagh and MDM are the two outstanding midfielders this season easily.

Cavanagh was just as anonymous in just as many games this year as AOS, indeed probably more so given how average he was in the Donegal game. He's no slam dunk in a compete ion for a midfield slot. Seamus O'Shea would be the obvious partner for MDM in the All-Star midfield if names meant nothing.

Cavanagh isn't a midfielder in any real sense honestly and naming him in the HF line is one of the few gerrymandering acts by the selection committee that I have no problems with.

copacetic · 08-10-2013 07:54PM

AIG are the new Dublin sponsors. Possibly something like this..

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Slattsy · 08-10-2013 07:57PM

Anything is better than Vodafone !!

TheGoldenAges · 08-10-2013 07:58PM

Fair play to the Dublin County Board, getting a lucrative deal like that mustn't have been easy.

prospect · 08-10-2013 08:41PM

€2M over 5 years for Ladies & Mens Hurling/Camogie and Football teams.

How does that compare to previous years?

Pierce_1991 · 08-10-2013 08:45PM

Slattsy wrote: »

Anything is better than Vodafone !!

Never thought th Vodafone looked that bad. They also seemed to give us a decent bit of cash which must have helped in some way towards two All Irelands in three seasons

corny · 08-10-2013 09:08PM

prospect wrote: »

€2M over 5 years for Ladies & Mens Hurling/Camogie and Football teams.

How does that compare to previous years?

They got 3 million for a shorter period of time from Vodafone if memory serves.

bren2001 · 08-10-2013 09:26PM

corny wrote: »

They got 3 million for a shorter period of time from Vodafone if memory serves.

1 millions a year according to the times.

http://www.irishtimes.com/business/sectors/retail-and-services/dublin-gaa-board-optimistic-about-maintaining-1m-sponsorship-deal-1.1488427

Was signed in different times. I still think it is a poor deal, 400k a year which includes the female sponsorship. I'm sure they did all they could.

copacetic · 08-10-2013 09:29PM

Not sure where €2m over 5 years is coming from. The deal is €5m over 5 years according to the Irish times.

So basically the same money as Vodafone deal but AIG get a longer option and full coverage of all teams.

bren2001 · 08-10-2013 10:12PM

copacetic wrote: »

Not sure where €2m over 5 years is coming from. The deal is €5m over 5 years according to the Irish times.

So basically the same money as Vodafone deal but AIG get a longer option and full coverage of all teams.

Irish Times is the only place reports 5m. Everywhere I look says 2m.

http://www.rte.ie/sport/gaa/2013/1008/479184-aig-new-dublin-gaa-sponsor-in-2-million-deal/

5m sounds about right to me. We will have to wait for clarification.

corny · 08-10-2013 10:24PM

bren2001 wrote: »

1 millions a year according to the times.

http://www.irishtimes.com/business/sectors/retail-and-services/dublin-gaa-board-optimistic-about-maintaining-1m-sponsorship-deal-1.1488427

Was signed in different times. I still think it is a poor deal, 400k a year which includes the female sponsorship. I'm sure they did all they could.

If it was for three years then i was right.;)

Neeson · 09-10-2013 02:20AM

copacetic wrote: »

AIG are the new Dublin sponsors. Possibly something like

I wonder will we see some split Dublin - Man United jerseys on the hill next year so! That way they can head to the pub, look at united, show their support and head off the Croker on time for the dubs and have their bit of blue on as well!

Neeson · 09-10-2013 02:20AM

copacetic wrote: »

AIG are the new Dublin sponsors. Possibly something like

I wonder will we see some split Dublin - Man United jerseys on the hill next year so! That way they can head to the pub, look at united, show their support and head off the Croker on time for the dubs and have their bit of blue on as well!

Paranoid Mandroid · 09-10-2013 06:34AM

Neeson wrote: »

I wonder will we see some split Dublin - Man United jerseys on the hill next year so! That way they can head to the pub, look at united, show their support and head off the Croker on time for the dubs and have their bit of blue on as well!

[....tumbleweed......]

Moneymaker · 09-10-2013 09:32AM

Neeson wrote: »

I wonder will we see some split Dublin - Man United jerseys on the hill next year so! That way they can head to the pub, look at united, show their support and head off the Croker on time for the dubs and have their bit of blue on as well!

Yawn. 2/10, must work harder.

Neeson · 09-10-2013 09:48AM

Sorry it was only a joke. A poor one but a joke nonetheless. I'm sure some nutter might try it.

prospect · 09-10-2013 11:07AM

Newstalk are saying it is a €4M deal today?

Hogan stand saying €3.5M

RTE - €2M

Times - €5M

I'd say €15M, yep that'll do.

Stoner · 09-10-2013 05:06PM

yes i heard 4M over 5 years on newstalk

wirelessdude01 · 09-10-2013 07:15PM

Consider that I heard somewhere that Leitrim got 15k sponsorship in 2012. No wonder Dublin are light years ahead of the majority of the counties.

Defiler Of The Coffin · 10-10-2013 01:42PM

wirelessdude01 wrote: »

Consider that I heard somewhere that Leitrim got 15k sponsorship in 2012. No wonder Dublin are light years ahead of the majority of the counties.

I wouldn't say Dublin are light years ahead of all the other counties, I think all the work that the Dublin County Board has put in over the years in both codes has come to fruition but you can't draw a line from the sponsorship money and say that Dublin have suddenly become invincible. Once you are below a certain population threshold it's hard to say what effect money has on the development of a team. If Leitrim were to come into say, €1m tomorrow, how good could they reasonably expect to get given the structures they have and still only a population of 30,000? It would be a good number of years before they would be challenging for Connacht even.

Just shows what winning an All-Ireland can do for a team, its 'brand' and 'marketability'. Given Dublin's population and success in recent years it's hard to see the money train slowing down any time soon.

Dublin GAA Discussion Thread - 2013

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