The Pat Kenny Show

Callan57 · 02-10-2013 09:27AM

DubTony wrote: »

I don't know whether to feel sorry for Gilroy or Kenny here. Gilroy can't make an argument he can back up and agrees with Kenny when he makes the opposite point, and Kenny is sitting there trying not to make him look like too much of a moron. A bit sad really.

That is exactly how I felt about it

Loafing Oaf · 02-10-2013 09:30AM

"We've got huge stocks of oil and gas off our coast".
Where are you getting this information from?
The voices in my head...

spank_inferno · 02-10-2013 09:33AM

I never heard that clip of that "eviction".

So a mob can stop a civil servent executing the decision of a court?

Is subversion now the democratic will of the people?
I thought we saw the back of that with the IRA.

ThisRegard · 02-10-2013 09:37AM

When previewing his show on the Breakfast show Pat did say something along the lines that many of Direct Democracys planks have very big gaps to fall through and aren't very secure. I also got the impression that Pat was trying to not go to town on that guy, if only Pat got stuck in bad traffic this morning and arrived into work like a demon it would have been a massacre.

endas donkey · 02-10-2013 09:54AM

ahh more bloody scare mongering with the climate right now. Gotta keep those carbon taxes flowing boys.

Come on Pat ask this clown some difficult questions not kiss his ass. The smugness is unreal as he knows he's getting an easy ride

JonathanAnon · 02-10-2013 11:16AM

Is nobody listening to the debate? John Crown was a bit shouty today I thought.

DubTony · 02-10-2013 11:32AM

The logic of some of the students speaking defies belief. "I'm voting to abolish it forever, because it won't be reformed," That's like setting your house on fire because you can't afford to decorate it.

JM Skipton · 02-10-2013 11:38AM

I think Pat went into McSavage mode there with his "elite" comment......whoooaaaa!!!!!

JonathanAnon · 02-10-2013 11:38AM

DubTony wrote: »

The logic of some of the students speaking defies belief. "I'm voting to abolish it forever, because it won't be reformed," That's like setting your house on fire because you can't afford to decorate it.

I actually agree with that point of view Tony... This is the only chance that the majority of the population will have a say in the Seanad. We can get rid of it now and then proposals for a new Seanad can be submitted. Then we can have a proper evaluation of whether a second chamber is actually necessary, without all the politics.

spank_inferno · 02-10-2013 12:25PM

Ditto.

I'll be voting to get rid also.

I'm happy to vote again in the future on a new improved Senate v2.0

DubTony · 02-10-2013 12:48PM

Apologies for turning this into a political thing, but unless Ben Gilroy gets into power, there won't ever be an opportunity for another Seanad. Don't think for a minute that Kenny, Martin, or any politicians are going to introduce another house if they get rid of this one.
Similar to what the Home Store & More ad says "When it's gone, it's gone."

kneemos · 02-10-2013 12:57PM

JonathanAnon wrote: »

I actually agree with that point of view Tony... This is the only chance that the majority of the population will have a say in the Seanad. We can get rid of it now and then proposals for a new Seanad can be submitted. Then we can have a proper evaluation of whether a second chamber is actually necessary, without all the politics.

Once it's gone I doubt it's coming back.

Callan57 · 02-10-2013 01:19PM

This self styled Seanad elite expect the plebs to vote for & pay for retaining them in the style they have become accustomed to.
It's time we got rid of this rampant culture of entitlement in this country :rolleyes:

For Forks Sake · 02-10-2013 01:49PM

Callan57 wrote: »

Who is this idiot?

Freeman Ben Gilroy. Or Ben of the ancient Clan an Giolla Rua on weekends. : Seriously, he has this nailed to the front of his house..

Superhero in his own head: http://peopleforeconomicjustice.com/receiver-walls-farmer-in/

On February 16th, our own Ben Gilroy decided to take a break from the twenty-four-seven job that is being Leader of Direct Democracy Ireland to enjoy a barbecue with his friends and family. Little did Ben know that a receiver was perhaps intentionally taking advantage of Ben’s small amount of relaxation, in the nearby county of Kildare. A receiver decided that the best way to carry out his impropery signed and therefore invalid court order was to physically wall a farmer and his family into their house.

A motto we love here at People For Economic Justice is “If my brother is in trouble. then so am I”. People for Economic Justice quickly mobilized and arranged for the wall to be removed.

Callan57 · 02-10-2013 02:59PM

For Forks Sake wrote: »

Freeman Ben Gilroy. Or Ben of the ancient Clan an Giolla Rua on weekends. : Seriously, he has this nailed to the front of his house..

Superhero in his own head: http://peopleforeconomicjustice.com/receiver-walls-farmer-in/

I'm not going to mention med1cation in case I get banned.

Bits_n_Bobs · 03-10-2013 10:16AM

Ed Walshe getting stuck into the teachers....radio gold

artful_codger · 03-10-2013 10:20AM

How can you argue with these Teachers? they just refute any criticism, and refuse to take responsibility for poor literacy and maths rates.

Calhoun · 03-10-2013 10:23AM

LOL your man the teacher fintan just had his numbers ripped apart

, after him denying that there were no teachers in positions that should be there its real comedic gold.

Out of touch ranting from an over paid fat cat, hope the goverment goes to town on them but i expect not.

mike65 · 03-10-2013 10:25AM

Teachers wonder why so much contempt - this is why.

Marcus Halberstram · 03-10-2013 10:26AM

This teacher is a clown. Pat and Ed not letting him get away with his spoofing.

miketv · 03-10-2013 10:26AM

"how dare you"

bottlebrush · 03-10-2013 10:27AM

My honours leaving cert English teacher used to spend the time in our class playing hangman amd x's and o's.

He is still teaching.

I rest my case.

Bits_n_Bobs · 03-10-2013 10:28AM

"misrepresenting the truth" accuses Pat....ouch

artful_codger · 03-10-2013 10:30AM

bottlebrush wrote: »

My honours leaving cert teacher used to spend the time in our class playing hangman amd x's and o's.

He is still teaching.

I rest my case.

My class was forced to study Music for the Junior Cert, in order to keep the Music Teacher busy.

Bits_n_Bobs · 03-10-2013 10:57AM

"Dark net" and "internets within the internets" - watch out lads, they're after rumbling boards......time to blow up the servers and move to our secret volcano interwebz darker than dark location....

delaad · 03-10-2013 07:56PM

mike65 wrote: »

Teachers wonder why so much contempt - this is why.

Bad news alright when there's three and a half of them running the country in the interest of the Bundesbank.

spank_inferno · 07-10-2013 09:22AM

Fionnan Sheehan sound happy as a clam.

Why wouldnt he though.

The government gravy train will still be stopping at his household.... Despite his missus being rejected by the electorate.

touts · 07-10-2013 09:30AM

Who the hell is Leo Varadkar to say he does not want to extend the vote to all graduates because he doesn't think it is enough of a reform.

It may not be perfect but the people voted to do exactly that 30+ years ago and no minister has the right to say he knows better than the people. If that was the case then what is stopping him saying I don't like Friday's decision, I know better than the people so we're going to just go ahead and scrap the seanad. A referendum result is binding.

JonathanAnon · 07-10-2013 09:36AM

Fionnán seems a lot more reasoned and generous than normal... I was expecting him to be triumphalist, cynical and sarcastic.. i.e. same as normal .. Has he had a Scrooge like revelation over the weekend.

ThisRegard · 07-10-2013 09:41AM

touts wrote: »

Who the hell is Leo Varadkar to say he does not want to extend the vote to all graduates because he doesn't think it is enough of a reform.

It may not be perfect but the people voted to do exactly that 30+ years ago and no minister has the right to say he knows better than the people. If that was the case then what is stopping him saying I don't like Friday's decision, I know better than the people so we're going to just go ahead and scrap the seanad. A referendum result is binding.

Wasn't his point that it doesn't go far enough, why should all college graduates get a vote but non graduates don't ?

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