Dexter Season 8 Episode 12 - Remember The Monsters? [SPOILERS]

Dempsey · 24-09-2013 01:29AM

The lumberjack ending looks like a studio tacked on ending. Unwilling to completely kill a franchise that has made them so much money.

NicoleL88 · 24-09-2013 01:30AM

Jesus, that was a piss poor finale!

I was bawling at it because I'm a total softie, but jesus christ, I could sh*t better endings than that!!

J. Marston · 24-09-2013 01:52AM

Stark wrote: »

I have to admit I was a bit upset after watching the episode at how Deb ended up. Then the lumberjack ending came back to me and suspension of disbelief evaporated. Tbh, I saw Dexter's miraculous escape from a wrecked boat in a hurricane coming, no matter how implausible it was. It was just the sort of hackneyed ending we'd come to expect. Tbh, I wouldn't have been surprised if the blanket Deb was wrapped in turned out to be Quinn's magic blanket from Season 6 and it brought her back to life in Dexter's arms.

What's this?

NicoleL88 wrote: »

Jesus, that was a piss poor finale!

I was bawling at it because I'm a total softie, but jesus christ, I could sh*t better endings than that!!

I wouldn't say I was bawling but Deb's ending was sad. It's a shame she didn't live and Dexter didn't die.

El Inho · 24-09-2013 01:56AM

First of all. Not the ending the series deserves but actually fits the season.

Secondly, is it at all possible that another season is going to crop up? Is it even possible?

There are enough loose ends to make another. And what the hell came of masukas daughter?

J. Marston · 24-09-2013 02:07AM

El Inho wrote: »

First of all. Not the ending the series deserves but actually fits the season.

Secondly, is it at all possible that another season is going to crop up? Is it even possible?

There are enough loose ends to make another. And what the hell came of masukas daughter?

I doubt it. A new cast would be a bit crap. Introducing brand new characters after 8 seasons wouldn't work. But keeping the current crop wouldn't work either, they're all so dull. And the only one who wasn't dull, Deb, is dead.

Standman · 24-09-2013 02:20AM

El Inho wrote: »

First of all. Not the ending the series deserves but actually fits the season.

Secondly, is it at all possible that another season is going to crop up? Is it even possible?

There are enough loose ends to make another. And what the hell came of masukas daughter?

I think the main reason he is alive is because they want to leave the possibility of another season open. With the show ending as it did, it's perfectly set up for a disgustingly lazy reboot of the entire Dexter story.

syklops · 24-09-2013 02:26AM

pixelburp wrote: »

I'm surprised; so little was done with that thread, it just kinda floated about for a spell, promised a little then came to nothing. It's hard to get angry about such a non-entity of a plot strand.

Tbh I think the world/internet is still in shock. That was it? That turd was the end of one of my favourite shows? Really?

I know what you mean. What was the point of Masoukas daughter? There was a lot of back story they could have been showing, and instead Masouka gets a daughter. Considering we met Vogul in episode 1, why did we only learn about Saxon in around episode 8? If Vogul had told Matthews that she got interested in sociopathes after the murder of her son by her other son in episode 1, then maybe things would have been better.

Vinz Mesrine · 24-09-2013 08:04AM

I feel abused after that rubbish.

There was a huge storm out at sea yet the water was perfectly calm when he threw Deb in.

He was able to just stroll out of a hospital pushing a bed with no questions asked at all.

Masukas daughter.

The ridiculous murder of Saxon and the aftermath of Batista just letting him leave.

The ****ing lumberjack, was anyone else expecting him to wink at the camera like he does during the opening credits?

There was so much wrong, I don't want to talk about it anymore

pixelburp · 24-09-2013 08:20AM

Vinz Mesrine wrote: »

[...]
The ridiculous murder of Saxon and the aftermath of Batista just letting him leave.
[...]

Nevermind Batista, what was most galling about that whole scene was that they made an entire half-season based around the fact Quinn suspected Dexter to be a murderer. Now I just know the writers would fob any questions off with "oh, Quinn was grieving over Deb", but even the most emotional of us would have thought "holy ****, I was right all along" and certainly a better show than this would have done precisely that. It practically teed things up for an epic showdown between Quinn and Dex and yet somehow the writers contrived to swing and miss at their own set-ups. Insane.

GorillaRising · 24-09-2013 08:28AM

I genuinely don't know what to say. Awful, just awful.

SDTimeout · 24-09-2013 09:00AM

That really made me upset.

At least that's the end of it now and unless they just get the whole writing / background staff of Season 4 in too write and inevitable Season 9 in a few years...

syklops · 24-09-2013 09:45AM

SDTimeout wrote: »

That really made me upset.

At least that's the end of it now and unless they just get the whole writing / background staff of Season 4 in too write and inevitable Season 9 in a few years...

Thats the thing, it was ended very safely, and it has left it wide open for a sequel. If he had ridden off in the boat and been killed in the storm, I could live with that, but you just know a few years from now, some substandard team are going to do a Jurassic Park 3 on it and release a straight to video feature length episode, "Dexter returns to Miami for one last kill...". In fact they will call it "Dexter:Tonights the night", starring none of the original cast, and none of the original team. Free money for some faceless film-backer.

There was alot wrong with it, and with season 8 in general but if they were going to end it, they should have ended it.

Stark · 24-09-2013 09:52AM

J. Marston wrote: »

What's this?

There was an episode in season 6 where Batista is unconscious in a house that's on fire. Quinn rushes in to save the day, picks up a blanket from a chair, gives the blanket a single flick and *poof*, the entire house fire is extinguished.

vitani · 24-09-2013 09:56AM

syklops wrote: »

Thats the thing, it was ended very safely, and it has left it wide open for a sequel. If he had ridden off in the boat and been killed in the storm, I could live with that, but you just know a few years from now, some substandard team are going to do a Jurassic Park 3 on it and release a straight to video feature length episode, "Dexter returns to Miami for one last kill...". In fact they will call it "Dexter:Tonights the night", starring none of the original cast, and none of the original team. Free money for some faceless film-backer.

There was alot wrong with it, and with season 8 in general but if they were going to end it, they should have ended it.

Or they do a spin off starring a grown-up Harrison who's out to get revenge on the father who abandoned him...

syklops · 24-09-2013 10:45AM

vitani wrote: »

Or they do a spin off starring a grown-up Harrison who's out to get revenge on the father who abandoned him...

If you have no imagination which seemingly most producers/writer don't, the possibilities are endless. A modern day set depiction of Lucretia Borgia starring Hannah McKay.

Batista moves to NYC and starts a restaurant called "Angelo's", and he solves crime in his spare time. Father Dowling meets CSI NY. There'll be regular cameos of Masouka as Angel sends him DNA to test.

Masouka's Daughter moves to London to open a book shop in Notting Hill and goes to night school in Forensics inspired by her crime fighting Dad. In the windy streets of London, and with her loveable side-kick Ralph, she uncovers a series of murders against young women and reveals the truth about some of London biggest mysteries... Whitechapel meets Black Books.

vitani · 24-09-2013 10:49AM

I would watch the Angel spin off...

syklops · 24-09-2013 10:51AM

vitani wrote: »

I would watch the Angel spin off...

Tbh I would too.

TerrorFirmer · 24-09-2013 11:54AM

That was the biggest wash out of a 'finale' ever. Even as a season finale, let alone the definitive finale, it was just the worst out of any of the 8 seasons, half of which were incredibly medicore.

It needed an ending that had Dexter being led into Miami Metro in chains, a SWAT team raiding his/Debs house, a shot of Astor/Cody dropping a glass of milk that smashes on the ground as they see a newspaper headline about America's worst serial killer with a mugshot of Dexter, Dexter in Jail, talking to Harry before he dies, before finally, very aptly, being killed by Lethal Injection as Harry, then joined by Deb, look on, and Dexter smiles and actually looks happy as a tear rolls down his cheek, injection goes in, bang, show over, and I'm satisfied.

****ing lumberjack, what the actual ****.

ixoy · 24-09-2013 12:12PM

syklops wrote: »

Batista moves to NYC and starts a restaurant called "Angelo's", and he solves crime in his spare time. Father Dowling meets CSI NY. There'll be regular cameos of Masouka as Angel sends him DNA to test.

Ah but Angel and the others are awful at solving crimes. So instead we'd need a bit of a "Get Smart" or "Inspector Gadget" angle: Another person - his sister Jamie being the obvious choice - is the one who actually solves the crimes but Angel thinks he did. This way we could also spin it into a comedy/drama.

Vohnsom Hofmee · 24-09-2013 12:15PM

Kirby wrote: »

Only one person ended up knowing Dexter's secret and living

Lumen?

MagicMarker · 24-09-2013 12:50PM

TBH I would have been somewhat satisfied with that shoite ending if Dexter had of just sat down in his little lumberjack cabin and taken out a little lumberjack case to reveal a load of blood slides. That would have been less shíte, if you ask me.

FreudianSlippers · 24-09-2013 01:13PM

Mr E wrote: »

Sigh.

Not an awful final episode (I've seen worse). The burial at sea was pretty moving. They should have cut to credits after Hannah and Harrison's last scene - it would have been a better ending. The last scene made a joke of the whole thing.

Agreed. I thought it was a pretty good episode, but the end was a let down. Either it should have ended ambiguously or with him showing up in Argentina to kill baddies there.

FreudianSlippers · 24-09-2013 01:17PM

Dempsey wrote: »

The lumberjack ending looks like a studio tacked on ending. Unwilling to completely kill a franchise that has made them so much money.

'We don't want to do any more episodes.'
Execs: '...any more now. We get you'

jos28 · 24-09-2013 04:53PM

8 Series of loyal following and spreading the word of Dexter and they gave us a LUMBERJACK :eek:
Season 8 should be removed from the universe. It was ridiculous to the extreme and made a mockery of everything that fans loved about Dexter. The entire season and especially the ending was just laughable. Let us all rewind to the end of season 7 with Deb shooting Dex. That is when they should have called Game over.

FortuneChip · 24-09-2013 05:55PM

1 or 2 things have been bothering me. Well, lots of things have, but let's keep it manageable.
He tries to kill himself, yeah? Justified it in that it was the only way he could protect Hannah & Harrison. Fair enough.
Somehow he manages to survive the CGI, so he stops and thinks...

Lumberjack

Wha?

jos28 · 24-09-2013 06:12PM

^
I agree, it was ludicrous !
I realised that he was going to kill himself after he dumped Debs in the ocean, I thought we were going to see him give himself a lethal injection of something and then fall into the water after Debs. Would have made a bit more sense than sailing into a storm, growing a beard, buying a check shirt and ending up hauling lumps of trees around.

ballsymchugh · 24-09-2013 06:31PM

what was the deal with that beard? it was the stupidest looking beard ever. it's as if they filmed that scene and then someone said, 'hey, maybe it would look better if you had a beard' but there was no beard props about.
so dexter just shaved his pubes and stuck them to his face.

i've seen better beards when cartman dresses up on south park.

Backstreet Moyes · 24-09-2013 06:31PM

FortuneChip wrote: »

1 or 2 things have been bothering me. Well, lots of things have, but let's keep it manageable.
He tries to kill himself, yeah? Justified it in that it was the only way he could protect Hannah & Harrison. Fair enough.
Somehow he manages to survive the CGI, so he stops and thinks...

Lumberjack

Wha?

I don't get the part he tried to kill himself. He drove into the storm yes but if he wanted to kill himself he would be dead not working as a lumberjack.

Zyzz · 24-09-2013 06:41PM

He doesn't try to kill himself..he says he wants to protect Hannah and Harrison so he has to remove himself from their lives. By driving into the storm it's a valid excuse for his body to go missing..no body = presumed dead..

Burkatron · 24-09-2013 08:15PM

The amount of hyperbole in this thread is ridiculous! Granted, season 8 was bad, the ending was terrible but seasons 5-7 weren't THAT bad! They weren't on par with 1-4 but they were better then most of the ****e that's on tv! Victims of their own success!

Dexter Season 8 Episode 12 - Remember The Monsters? [SPOILERS]

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