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Dexter Season 8 Episode 12 - Remember The Monsters? [SPOILERS]

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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 9,425 ✭✭✭FearDark


    La la la la la not reading anything in here yet but just about to sit down to this and really looking forward to it finally being over, it's really been tough getting through the last few seasons of much we've been getting.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,419 ✭✭✭✭jokettle


    So they all think Dexter died.

    But no-one thinks to look for Harrison? The headline in the newspaper made no mention of him that I could see.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,797 ✭✭✭Shane St.


    Mr E wrote: »
    Sigh.

    Not an awful final episode (I've seen worse). The burial at sea was pretty moving. They should have cut to credits after Hannah and Harrison's last scene - it would have been a better ending. The last scene made a joke of the whole thing.

    Yea. wtf was that about


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 9,425 ✭✭✭FearDark


    Exactly 30 mins in and its the worst episode I think I've ever seen.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 160 ✭✭R019912


    It actually pains me that this show ended so poorly. Deserved much better. Contrary to popular opinion, I thought the show was still good and worth watching until the final season started. Season 8 has been an utter shambles though


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,797 ✭✭✭Shane St.


    It's actually just laughable all the plot holes. So annoyed.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,797 ✭✭✭Shane St.




  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 9,425 ✭✭✭FearDark


    **** OFF. Just **** off with that ****. **** sake.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 36,711 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    Sigh.

    Well, it was always the ending I suspected might happen, given how the writers practically fell over themselves to paint Dexter as the misunderstood anti-hero, jettisoning what remained of basic logic and credibility the show had to attain that goal. I tended to presume we'd end with Dexter sacrificing himself somehow. It's the standard narrative for anti-heroes: you can't reward their darkness, so the default option is to allow them to go out with a noble death, a blaze of glory that saves others more deserving of life. Yet even the rank amateurs that make up the Dexter writing staff couldn't achieve that simple goal: instead we got that pointless, contradictory coda that undid what was already a fairly muddled decision by Dexter to kill himself. That Harrison is just forgotten by everyone in Miami, and is now cared for by a known killer hardly seems like a happy ending either.

    But hey, we're here and the show's done. About 3/4 seasons too late but there you are. Doubtless this forum will die a death in the coming months as we try to forget this substandard show & move on with our TV lives. In the end the last episode ever was almost a textbook case of the redundant, anti-climatic finale; an ending so without worthiness it basically insults its own mythology. But then it had become so enamoured with its own main character, it's not that surprising that the supporting cast got short shrift (oh, Dexter killed a suspect in custody; no biggie, it was self-defence. Bye Dex!) I suppose I might have felt more about Deb dying but considering her last words to Dexter included how he 'deserved happiness', I just got angry rather than sad. It was all so contrived it was simply obnoxious in the extreme.

    In many ways, the 'Masuka's daughter' plotline kinda summed up the season as a whole really: completely pointless, dreadfully plotted, contradicted established characters, it went absolutely nowhere and ultimately nobody cared that it all came to nothing.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 9,425 ✭✭✭FearDark


    Hannah on hearing the love of her life is dead.

    "Want some ice-cream Harrison"

    Brilliant.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,314 ✭✭✭sink


    That was god awful. Seriously, probably the worst TV finale I've ever witnessed.

    It's ironic, Michael C Hall starred in Six Feet Under which had one of the best finales of all and now he's earned the accolade of being in one of the worst.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 9,425 ✭✭✭FearDark


    At least this made me lol hard.



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,225 ✭✭✭snausages


    Showtime are posting this on their twitter: https://twitter.com/SHO_Dexter/status/382145723623411712/photo/1

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    'Survive' is an apt word I'd say.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,314 ✭✭✭sink


    pixelburp wrote: »
    In many ways, the 'Masuka's daughter' plotline kinda summed up the season as a whole really: completely pointless, dreadfully plotted, contradicted established characters, it went absolutely nowhere and ultimately nobody cared that it all came to nothing.

    I just realised neither of them even featured in the episode at all. WTF were the writers doing, dedicating screen time to a plot line that went literally nowhere? Jesus, the whole season was a train wreck.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 9,425 ✭✭✭FearDark


    We all waited for the day when Miami Metro would find out who Dexter really was... that day never came. Greatest cop out in TV history to have him turn up in a lumber yard somewhere. Not to mention his kid is running around Argen-fuk-ingtina with a serial killer.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 36,711 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    FearDark wrote: »
    We all waited for the day when Miami Metro would find out who Dexter really was... that day never came. Greatest cop out in TV history to have him turn up in a lumber yard somewhere. Not to mention his kid is running around Argen-fuk-ingtina with a serial killer.

    At some point somebody, somewhere in Showtime panicked and mistook 'popularity' for 'love'. They made the critical error in judgement that the reason we watched Dexter was because we loved its main character and wanted him to triumph over adversity. Which, of course, we don't - how could you possibly love a monster & sociopath? It was a brave decision to have a cold-hearted murderer as your lead in the first place, but what we loved (imo) was the vicarious thrill of watching a monster hide in plain sight and live a lie, with the caveat of only killing criminals a sop to our collective morality; had he habitually killed innocents, the series would have lasted precisely one season.

    Ultimately though, what the audience craved was punishment for his acts and we tuned in to see just how long Dexter could keep running from justice. We didn't want to see redemption, and we certainly didn't want to see him be cured with the love of an interchangeable blonde, but this is what happened because an executive mistook Dexter for a conventional show where its lead can only ever be heroic and must be allowed live beyond the final Fade to Black. They overestimated how critical the 'vigilante' aspect was to the character, and the shows blossoming popularity made somebody panic; the moment the show was retrofitted to make Dexter the hero at all costs, despite the obvious demand for narrative retribution, that's when it all fell apart. The first to suffer from this colossal misstep was only ever going to be Miami Metro, arguably the most important component in the show had things been allowed to run their natural course (going by Clyde Phillips' comments about the original proposed ending).


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 32,865 ✭✭✭✭MagicMarker


    There's a lot of "we" in that post. Are you the official spokesperson for the Dexter fan club?


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 36,711 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    There's a lot of "we" in that post. Are you the official spokesperson for the Dexter fan club?
    Huh? Ok, replace 'we' with 'the audience'


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,950 ✭✭✭Hande hoche!


    Fairly disappointing ending to the show. Miami Metro finally catches a serial killer and he dies in captivity.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,476 ✭✭✭Samba


    How oh how did it end up going from the dark defender to the grizzly lumber jack :confused:

    Total and utter tripe, but like Dexter, I only have myself to blame. I can't believe I actually sat through the final series expecting anything remotely good to come from it.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,861 ✭✭✭FlyingIrishMan


    Wurly wrote: »
    The lumberjack thing is a pile of me hole. However someone commented on the FB page saying the following (which makes the ending sound rather smart, I must say)

    "Dexter planned to kill himself. Anyone who thinks they can survive going headfirst into a tornado is an eejit. In a twisted miracle (one of those things Dexter admits he doesn't believe in, in this episode) the Dark Passenger's survival instincts keep the shell of Dexter alive. The Dark Passenger has become the Driver and lives on. That's why the final scene has no narration. There is no human there to narrate."

    I don't think the writers are smart enough to think of that.

    Personally I don't think that ending wouldn't have been so bad if it had a much much better build up to it. If we had a season where Dexter was on the run from the very start, being hunted by his own co-workers and in the end he accidentally gets Deb killed, or accidentally shoots her himself then the suicide attempt happens it wouldn't have been so bad.


    Also, it was hilarious when Batista was like "you don't even work here..." in the interrogation room.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 555 ✭✭✭tim3000


    I didn't want ambiguity. I wanted a definitive ending. Not this cop out. Worst season and series finale I have yet seen. Pointless television. What they should have done is after season 4 have a three season story arc about Dexter killing a murderous ring of child molesters and pedophiles. String that out over 3 seasons boom good ending after all. None of this Deb killing LaGuerta crap which absolutely ruined the show imo.

    God that made me angry haha


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,060 ✭✭✭Jikashi


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,966 ✭✭✭✭syklops


    In many ways, the 'Masuka's daughter' plotline kinda summed up the season as a whole really: completely pointless, dreadfully plotted, contradicted established characters, it went absolutely nowhere and ultimately nobody cared that it all came to nothing.

    I disagree that nobody cared it all came to nothing. Im seeing alot of anger online in relation to it. I wouldnt like to be Sara Colleton right now.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,950 ✭✭✭Hande hoche!


    Also why did Saxon seemingly an experienced killer opt to stab Dexter in the shoulder?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,288 ✭✭✭Backstreet Moyes


    Also why did Saxon seemingly an experienced killer opt to stab Dexter in the shoulder?

    Why did he go after Deb. He wanted a truce with Dexter and now with Deb injured and Dexter going away he could have just disappeared. Instead with his face plastered all over tv he goes into a hospital packed with security to kill Deb which had no chance of happening. It was just plain stupid and their was no intensity to it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,824 ✭✭✭Sudden Valley


    So Deb dies but Hannah and Dexter get to live on with little consequence for the sh!t they've pulled> The Lost and Battlestar Galactica finales made me feel disappointed. This made me feel angry.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,553 ✭✭✭✭Dempsey


    What a shít ending but it was expected after sitting through season 5! The whole series took a nose dive after season 4!

    So many plot holes and contrivances, its hard to know where to start!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,347 ✭✭✭KTRIC


    Absolutely f*cking awful !!! :(

    Possibly the worst ending of a show I've seen and one of the worst episodes of Dexter to boot. The writers should be ashamed of themselves.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,736 ✭✭✭OctavarIan


    The whole show was the daydream of a frustrated, bored, and lonely lumberjack.


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