What should be my drafting strategy ?

kennyb3 · 30-08-2013 11:24AM

@ gufc21 - appreciate your help, and seems to make sense.

poldebruin · 30-08-2013 11:47AM

It also depends on how the draft has gone before you make your first pick. If there is a run on top tier QBs or WRs you might find a great value RB has dropped to you which would be hard to pass up..... or you might consider that you will need to join and take a WR or QB to ensure you don't get stuck waiting 25 players between your 2nd and 3rd pick.

Personally I always think it's good to go RB, RB, WR in the first 3 rounds and after that you know you won't go too far wrong. It's a nice feeling to have 2 featured RBs in your team. You can always find good quality starting QB on the board between rounds 4 and 6.

Guffy · 30-08-2013 12:13PM

BKWDR wrote: »

But wouldn't you want to sus out where the draft is going? As in if you went for WR too early would you miss out on a top level QB?

What would earn more points, a qb or wr?

This is all asked as a complete newbie rather than challenging your opinion!

Its not the difference in points between the diff positions but rather withing the position. Ya there will be a big diff between say Rodgers picked up in the 1st round and
Stephan Jackson in the second but the difference between Rodgers in the 1st and say luck in the 5th would be nowhere near as big as say McCoy in the first and and Ben Jarvis green elis in the 4.

Ya you should always watch what's going on but there are a lot of good qb's. There was a run on qb's in my 16 team draft this week. I waited till 5th and got Stafford. Will he be that much worse than Rodgers that I should of taken Rodgers or brees in the first round?

Remember a lot of players are drafted for name recognition. The likes of rg3 Brady etc are going early. It will allow you to get decent value later on.

padraig_f · 30-08-2013 02:58PM

Picking 12th isn't a great spot, but you've got one real advantage in that you know your draft position in advance, so you can practice drafting from that position.

How to practice....bookmark an ADP list like this one:
http://fantasyfootballcalculator.com/adp.php

[note that this is an average draft position list, not a ranking list]

Assume the draft goes according to the ADP list (which it will, on average).

So for your first-round pick, you're picking 12th, assume everything before 12th on the list is gone.

At 12th, you almost certainly want to pick an RB. I like Forte here, you have Chris Johnson as well.

Next pick I think will be 17th (you said 15th, but since you were 3rd-last in round 1, I think the second round pick will be 14+3 = 17th).

I actually think you want to go WR/Jimmy Graham for the second round pick, as opposed to RB. Here's why: look at position 17 on the list, look at the colours above that (colours on the link indicate player-position). 14 of the first 16 picks have been RBs, so the stud RBs have really gone at this point, but you can still get a stud WR/TE (Jimmy Graham is the only stud TE this year).

I think you're better having stud RB, stud WR/TE, as opposed to stud RB, 2nd tier RB. Also look at the colours below position 17, a lot of people go for non-RBs with their second-round pick, so the drop-off from round 2 to 3 is not that great for RBs.

For the second round pick then, I'd go AJ Greene/Brandon Marshall/Jimmy Graham.

The exception to this: if one of the stud RBs (say top 10) falls to the second round, you can go RB, RB, but if it goes according to the ADP list, I prefer RB, WR/Jimmy Graham.

If you do go RB, WR, just make sure you get your 2nd RB by the 4th round at the latest.

Here's an example of how I'd play it from 12th:

12. Matt Forte RB1
17. Brandon Marshall WR1
40. Marques Colston WR2
45. Ryan Matthews RB2
68. Steve Smith WR3
73. Andrew Luck QB1
96. Mike Williams WR4
101. Jacquizz Rodgers RB3
124. Owen Daniels TE1
129. Martellus Bennett TE2
152. Joe Flacco QB2
157. Cardinals DEF.

I've gone for backup WR4 and RB3 before starting TEs, because I'm picking starting TE at the 7th round, and by that point, I prefer the guys further down.

That's just one example. I'd say practice different strategies with the ADP list, e.g.
- What happens if you pick Jimmy Graham in the 2nd round?
- What happens if you go RB, RB in the first two rounds?

Practice with each, and see which team you like best. Have your favourite team as a general strategy, but be prepared to be a bit flexible in the live draft, as I said, if you were planning RB, WR, but a stud RB fell to the 2nd round, be prepared to change to RB, RB.

For bench players, WR and RB are first priority, just because you have more of these positions to cover for bye weeks.

kennyb3 · 30-08-2013 10:25PM

Okay having tried a mock draft - my next question is the general make up of the bench.

One back up QB, one TE, one RB (or maybe 2?), and 3 WR's?

What use is the W/R position?

Guffy · 30-08-2013 10:54PM

i wouldn't carry a te on bench. just stock up on wr's and rb's with upside, with a shot of making the starting position or bye week replacements (and a qb to match your starters bye week). TE's at this stage are all the same and you can pick one up for the bye week replacement.

the w/r position is just a position where you can play either a wr or a rb. I try to go for a rb if i can get a decent one averaging 10 a game, but each to there own here.

kennyb3 · 31-08-2013 07:10AM

Thanks I did a mock draft last night and went 11 of 12 and off memory ended up with this

R1 Matt Forte
R2 AJ Green
R3 Marques Colston
R4 Matt Ryan
R5 Demarco murray
R6 Jordy Nelson
R7 Martelleus Bennett
R8 Brandon Myers
R9 Bernard Pierce
R10 Josh Brown
R11 Baltimore Ravens

edit: I got Eli Manning as my 2nd QB in there somewhere

Cant remember the rest. I know it depends who is on the board at the time but any glaring errors there?

I think I should have taken Myers before Bennett. Owen Daniels was also available.

I think i did okay but not sure the other players drafting were great - some were drafting kickers and defences before their benches so that prob made it a bit easier.

I realise I'm struggling on 2nd and 3rd string running backs - i'm not hugely familiar with these.

Would people consider Matt Forte a tier one RB? I realise now ehen i draft the top 5-8 will definitely be gone

kennyb3 · 31-08-2013 08:15AM

gufc21 wrote: »

i wouldn't carry a te on bench. just stock up on wr's and rb's with upside, with a shot of making the starting position or bye week replacements (and a qb to match your starters bye week). TE's at this stage are all the same and you can pick one up for the bye week replacement.

the w/r position is just a position where you can play either a wr or a rb. I try to go for a rb if i can get a decent one averaging 10 a game, but each to there own here.

So after drafting a couple of safe wr's would you then look for upside ones? In the draft I did emmanuel Sanders was still there to near the end, but i had 2/3 safe receivers - so i was thinking i should go for a robert woods/marcus Wheaton type?

Guffy · 31-08-2013 12:25PM

Hey Kenny. This is an example of my draft in a 16 team league. Not saying its perfect but just gives you an idea of what I was thinking.

I had planned to go rb rb but there were a couplene wr's taken in the first round (Johnson was 2nd overall). There was then a rush on qb's in the 3rd had a look at who needed a qb after me so had to pull the trigger.

No draft is rigid. Practice. Watch what's going on around you. And be aware of other team needs. Especially at 13, 14, 15, 16.

R1-5 Doug MartinTB-RB
R2-Randall Cobb GB-WR
R3-37 DeMarco Murray DAL-RB
R4-60 Matthew Stafford DET-QB
R5-69 Giovani Bernard CIN-RB
R6-92 Mike Williams TB-WR
R7-101 Brandon Myers NYG-TE (auto pick

R8-124 Alshon JefferyCHI-WR
R9-133 Vincent Brown SD-WR
R10-156 Joseph Randle DAL-RB
R11-165 Kenbrell Thompkins NE-WR
R12-188 Rueben Randle NYG-WR
R13-197 Phil Dawson SF-K
R14-220 LaMichael James SF-RB
R15-229 EJ Manuel BUF-QB

I didn't pick a d. My targets got taken by guys who wanted two :-o gona try play the matchups every week. Week 1 Kansas v jags eventually a solid one will hit waivers. I made a couple of tweeks to this post draft and an pretty happy with it for a 16 team although I prob won't be drafting Cobb and Murray in another league.

kennyb3 · 02-09-2013 11:03AM

Thanks for the help guys, it was tough in the later rounds with it being a 14 team league. So here's what i ended up with and some thoughts;

12 - Trent Richardson
17 - Dez Bryant
40 - Cam Newton
45 - tony Gonzalez
68 - Wes Welker
73 - Ahmad Bradshaw
96 - Chicago Bears
101 - Sidney Rice
124 - Phil Dawson
129 - Andy Dalton
157 - Jacoby Jones
180 - Quinton Patton
185 - Brandon Lafell
208 - Markus Wheaton

There was one major f'uck up - my keyboard stalled and it autoselected Tony Gonzalez for me - that really pee'd me off. I was trying to get Markus colston but he went the pick ahead and it just jammed. Think i pegged it back a bit after that.

I didn't plan to draft Cam Newton so high and going back I wouldn't put there was a bit of a run on QB's and I paniced a bit to be honest.

How does that look. Should i get trying to trade?

Follow the Plan · 02-09-2013 06:37PM

How do you find out the scoring system please lads?

Found it, League/settings.

Guffy · 02-09-2013 06:49PM

kennyb3 wrote: »

Thanks for the help guys, it was tough in the later rounds with it being a 14 team league. So here's what i ended up with and some thoughts;

12 - Trent Richardson
17 - Dez Bryant
40 - Cam Newton
45 - tony Gonzalez
68 - Wes Welker
73 - Ahmad Bradshaw
96 - Chicago Bears
101 - Sidney Rice
124 - Phil Dawson
129 - Andy Dalton
157 - Jacoby Jones
180 - Quinton Patton
185 - Brandon Lafell
208 - Markus Wheaton

There was one major f'uck up - my keyboard stalled and it autoselected Tony Gonzalez for me - that really pee'd me off. I was trying to get Markus colston but he went the pick ahead and it just jammed. Think i pegged it back a bit after that.

I didn't plan to draft Cam Newton so high and going back I wouldn't put there was a bit of a run on QB's and I paniced a bit to be honest.

How does that look. Should i get trying to trade?

Are you happy with it?

keithdelahunty · 02-09-2013 08:13PM

Trent Richardson & Dez Bryant both should go in top 15 so you did well to get both with pick #12 & 17. I wouldn't worry about Newton at 40, that is about his spot, I reckon and remember last 2 years its becoming more and more a QB league

kennyb3 · 02-09-2013 08:59PM

gufc21 wrote: »

Are you happy with it?

Happyish - didn't want a TE that early but i got good value in the Bears defence and Andy Dalton, and i think patton could be a massive sleeper. But i feel one top qulaity receiver short. I was going to take Reggie Wayne instead of Gonzalez after Colston got drafted a spot above.

I'll also need Bradshaw to start off well and hold off vick ballard

BKWDR · 03-09-2013 09:37AM

My Boards FF Draft last night, lasted over 2 hours the whole Draft. Think i messed up my BYE Weeks with WR. Left it too late to draft some rookies that i wanted. I picked second QB early as my hand was forced with RG3 and panicked about the injur...

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What should be my drafting strategy ?

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