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Aston Villa v Liverpool 5.30 pm (Sky Sports 1)

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  • #62
    COYVB
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,660 ✭✭✭COYVB


    Gbear wrote: »
    That's fine so long as Benteke stays fit. And I have no particular reason to believe he wont. But it's somewhat precarious.

    There's also helenius to come in. Similar scoring record to benteke in a similar league before joining, and regarded as a better finisher than benteke (though the chances of being even half the player are slim to none). So he's an unknown quantity. Did very well in preseason though


  • #63
    COYVB
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,660 ✭✭✭COYVB


    jamaamaj wrote: »
    Soldaldo unproven, yes he scores lots of goals in la liga, but he's 28 and he never made it at real mardid.

    And bizarrely, they opted not to spend the same amount on benteke when it would've gotten him


  • #64
    Frankie Lee
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,277 ✭✭✭Frankie Lee


    COYVB wrote: »
    There's also helenius to come in. Similar scoring record to benteke in a similar league before joining, and regarded as a better finisher than benteke (though the chances of being even half the player are slim to none). So he's an unknown quantity. Did very well in preseason though

    Can't wait until Villa play a 4-2-4 against weaker opposition with Helenius and Benteke being flanked by Weimann and Gabby.


  • #65
    Nuri Sahin
    Site Banned Posts: 26,456 ✭✭✭✭Nuri Sahin


    jamaamaj wrote: »
    And what have both proved in the league?
    AVB was sacked by chelsea and fell out with players.
    Soldaldo unproven, yes he scores lots of goals in la liga, but he's 28 and he never made it at real mardid.

    A lot of mangers were sacked at Chelsea. Roman wanted a new brand of football with a younger core and got sacked for doing so. A few players at the club weren't going to give Villas Boas the time of day.

    Soldado was never ever going to be given a chance at Real Madrid like many Real Madrid youth players were never given a chance.

    Anyway, this is OT so I'll stop :)


  • #66
    COYVB
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    Frankie Lee wrote: »
    Can't wait until Villa play a 4-2-4 against weaker opposition with Helenius and Benteke being flanked by Weimann and Gabby.

    Not sure we'll ever see that TBH, even a weaker side would dominate that lineup by playing 5 in the middle


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  • #67
    jamaamaj
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    COYVB wrote: »
    And bizarrely, they opted not to spend the same amount on benteke when it would've gotten him

    Nothing bizarrely about it all, sure they are getting Bale. He's ment to be good i hear.


  • #68
    Nuri Sahin
    Site Banned Posts: 26,456 ✭✭✭✭Nuri Sahin


    jamaamaj wrote: »
    Any goalkeeper to be MOTM 16/1
    I'm looking at you Guzman.
    I'll have a 5er on that.

    I've been raking it in over the past year and a bit in this market and trust me, it's rare enough a keeper wins MOTM.


  • #69
    jamaamaj
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    Nuri Sahin wrote: »
    A lot of mangers were sacked at Chelsea. Roman wanted a new brand of football with a younger core and got sacked for doing so. A few players at the club weren't going to give Villas Boas the time of day.

    Soldado was never ever going to be given a chance at Real Madrid like many Real Madrid youth players were never given a chance.

    Anyway, this is OT so I'll stop :)

    But if he was all that, surley he would have made it at real? no.


  • #70
    Courtesy Flush
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    Sturridge, Coutinho and Aspas should be too much for the Villa defence to handle
    Obviously we need to keep Benteke from getting chances


  • #71
    Turtyturd
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    OwaynOTT wrote: »
    If we win today, Liverpool that is, it will leave us with a ppg this season of 3.0. If we can keep that up, surely we are in with a chance of pipping Spurs to 4th.
    Although considering they have AVB, they could top that ppg tally and have the players to do that.


    Should be a good game. Villa were very impressive against Chelsea and despite Liverpool's win in the opener, they are still vulnerable to a quick break through the middle.
    Liverpool need to score early and for the players to be more clinical.
    I honestly think it's Villa's game to lose.

    Once Mata and Ozil are signed it should be enough to counteract the AVB/Soldado effect.


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  • #72
    COYVB
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    jamaamaj wrote: »
    Nothing bizarrely about it all, sure they are getting Bale. He's ment to be good i hear.

    Spurs are signing Bale? That was a short stay at Madrid!


  • #73
    Nuri Sahin
    Site Banned Posts: 26,456 ✭✭✭✭Nuri Sahin


    jamaamaj wrote: »
    But if he was all that, surley he would have made it at real? no.

    I've answered this above..

    They don't give their youngsters a proper chance if any at all. Real opt for spending stupid money on foreign players or Spanish players from other clubs because they're daft. In some cases, they end up selling them and then buying them back. Reference Arbeloa and Carvajal as two recent examples of this..

    Mata never made it Real if you want someone a little closer to home so to speak. Javi Garcia is another one who is at Man City too.

    I wouldn't hold it against Soldado not making it at Real whatsoever.


  • #74
    jamaamaj
    Closed Accounts Posts: 956 ✭✭✭jamaamaj


    COYVB wrote: »
    Spurs are signing Bale? That was a short stay at Madrid!

    On a new contract? no Chance.!
    Spurs won't replace his match winning games.


  • #75
    COYVB
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,660 ✭✭✭COYVB


    jamaamaj wrote: »
    On a new contract? no Chance.!
    Spurs won't replace his match winning games.

    You just said they were signing him ;)

    (Note: When I said it was bizarre that they didn't sign Benteke for the price of Soldado, I was talking about Spurs, who instead bid way too low then walked away and spent almost double what they bid on him on a 28 year old)


  • #76
    jamaamaj
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    COYVB wrote: »
    You just said they were signing him ;)

    (Note: When I said it was bizarre that they didn't sign Benteke for the price of Soldado, I was talking about Spurs, who instead bid way too low then walked away and spent almost double what they bid on him on a 28 year old)

    Where did i say this :confused:

    In any way this is a villa/liverpool match thread.


  • #77
    5starpool
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    Unchanged for LFC.

    #LFC XI v #AVFC: Mignolet - Johnson, Toure, Agger Enrique - Lucas Gerrard - Henderson, Aspas, Coutinho - Sturridge


  • #78
    Nuri Sahin
    Site Banned Posts: 26,456 ✭✭✭✭Nuri Sahin


    Liverpool XI vs Villa: Mignolet, Johnson, Toure, Agger, Enrique, Lucas, Gerrard, Henderson, Coutinho, Aspas, Sturridge


  • #79
    Dont be at yourself
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,452 ✭✭✭✭Dont be at yourself


    5starpool wrote: »
    Unchanged for LFC.

    #LFC XI v #AVFC: Mignolet - Johnson, Toure, Agger Enrique - Lucas Gerrard - Henderson, Aspas, Coutinho - Sturridge

    Our strongest team until Suarez gets back. Should make for a good game.


  • #80
    OwaynOTT
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    Turtyturd wrote: »
    Once Mata and Ozil are signed it should be enough to counteract the AVB/Soldado effect.

    They will certainly give us a boast. Difficult to see where they will fit though bar injuries.


  • #81
    mike65
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    As I called it on the OP :) (no genius required really! :pac:)

    Liverpool subs: Jones, Wisdom, Cissokho, Allen, Alberto, Sterling, Borini.


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  • #82
    Turtyturd
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    OwaynOTT wrote: »
    They will certainly give us a boast. Difficult to see where they will fit though bar injuries.

    True...but even their presence on the bench would translate into a PPG bump of about .5....bringing us up to 3.5ppg .


  • #83
    Nuri Sahin
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    Nuri Sahin wrote: »
    Liverpool XI vs Villa: Mignolet, Johnson, Toure, Agger, Enrique, Lucas, Gerrard, Henderson, Coutinho, Aspas, Sturridge

    Villa XI vs Liverpool: Guzan, Lowton, Vlaar, Okore, Luna, Bacuna, Westwood, Agbonlahor, Delph, Benteke, Weimann.


  • #84
    Frankie Lee
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    Bacuna in for KEA, more pace for more counter attacking.


  • #85
    Dont be at yourself
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,452 ✭✭✭✭Dont be at yourself


    Turtyturd wrote: »
    True...but even their presence on the bench would translate into a PPG bump of about .5....bringing us up to 3.5ppg .

    Wouldn't be against loaning them to Napoli for the season either. Can't have players on £200k/week sitting on the bench, even if they do get us 3.5ppg.


  • #86
    messinkiapina
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,170 ✭✭✭messinkiapina


    Bad feeling about this one. There will be goals and I think Villa will nick it.


  • #87
    Corholio
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    Bacuna for El Ahmadi is an interesting one. Good to see us attacking teams at home, in setup at least.


  • #88
    5live
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    Dont be at yourself wrote: »
    Wouldn't be against loaning them to Napoli for the season either. Can't have players on £200k/week sitting on the bench, even if they do get us 3.5ppg.

    Do we have to wait for Suarez to be in the squad before we get his +30goals to our goal difference?


  • #89
    OwaynOTT
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    Dont be at yourself wrote: »
    Wouldn't be against loaning them to Napoli for the season either. Can't have players on £200k/week sitting on the bench, even if they do get us 3.5ppg.

    Ah but finishing top of the wages saving league gets an extra point per game in the league, bringing it up to 4.00 ppg, which surely would push us just ahead of Spurs even with them doing hons maths and answering all questions in Irish.


  • #90
    Kess73
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    Nuri Sahin wrote: »
    Villa XI vs Liverpool: Guzan, Lowton, Vlaar, Okore, Luna, Bacuna, Westwood, Agbonlahor, Delph, Benteke, Weimann.

    No El Ahmadi and Bacuna starting? Villa look like they are coming to fight rather than to sit back and counter.

    Decent looking team.

    Will be watching to see how Okore looks. Mentioned in the Villa thread earlier in the week that I thought he was not quite ready to be a starter but that I thought he had a lot of potential, so he will most likely turn in a top performance today to spite me:)

    Actually feel a bit more confident about the game now that Bacuna is a starter, as I would be more worried about a deep sitting counter attacking Villa team than one that looks to have an attacking more open line up. Be very surprised if either team avoids conceding today.


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  • #91
    OwaynOTT
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    5live wrote: »
    Do we have to wait for Suarez to be in the squad before we get his +30goals to our goal difference?

    Ah here forgot about that.
    Also does the amount of super threads we to thorough affect our ppg or is it more our tpm that will see the benefit?
    Either way lads I feel it our year.


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