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The psychopath in society.

  • 29-07-2013 07:26PM
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,331 ✭✭✭


    Roughly 4% of people are psychopaths so the chances are most of us have come across at least one. They exist on every level of society and tend to gravitate towards positions where they have power over others. As the psychopath craves positions of power then logically the percentage of psychopaths in the sphere of politics is much higher than 4%.

    The phsychopath lacks the basic traits that most of us have that make us human, genuine empathy for others and compassion. They are parasitic predators that leave a trail of destruction in their wake. There is nothing positive about the psychopath, they are the root cause of a lot of our problems on both a national and personal level. Isn't it time that awareness was raised about this issue?.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,299 ✭✭✭✭The Backwards Man


    Physiotherapists are psychopathic sycophants.

    Telling you they want to help you then literally pulling the leg of you, when in reality, all they care about is your money.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,299 ✭✭✭✭MadsL


    The phsychopath lacks the basic traits that most of us have that make us human, genuine empathy for others and compassion. They are parasitic predators that leave a trail of destruction in their wake. There is nothing positive about the psychopath, they are the root cause of a lot of our problems on both a national and personal level. Isn't it time that awareness was raised about this issue?.

    I believe it is. There is a documentary called Criminal Minds on TV.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,787 ✭✭✭✭ScumLord


    There is nothing positive about the psychopath, they are the root cause of a lot of our problems on both a national and personal level. Isn't it time that awareness was raised about this issue?.
    I don't think that's true at all. There are varying degrees of psychopathy, many just don't get hung up on other peoples feelings more so that they simply don't care.

    What you're describing is the boggie man. Psychopaths are people with a slightly different view of the world than you. In extreme cases they can turn into murderers but it's not a certainty, 4% of the population aren't serial killers.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,801 ✭✭✭Ruudi_Mentari


    Even the shrinks are petrified of them, and that's if anyone ever even took the responsibility to make a complaint about their only beneficial trait so it will never matter -

    I have seen many an ogre play the psycho card to get ahead. It is a way of life


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 9,463 ✭✭✭Celly Smunt


    Roughly 4% of people are psychopaths so the chances are most of us have come across at least one. They exist on every level of society and tend to gravitate towards positions where they have power over others. As the psychopath craves positions of power then logically the percentage of psychopaths in the sphere of politics is much higher than 4%.

    The phsychopath lacks the basic traits that most of us have that make us human, genuine empathy for others and compassion. They are parasitic predators that leave a trail of destruction in their wake. There is nothing positive about the psychopath, they are the root cause of a lot of our problems on both a national and personal level. Isn't it time that awareness was raised about this issue?.

    Read the entire post in Dr.Phils voice.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,200 ✭✭✭✭Galwayguy35


    Roughly 4% of people are psychopaths so the chances are most of us have come across at least one. They exist on every level of society and tend to gravitate towards positions where they have power over others. As the psychopath craves positions of power then logically the percentage of psychopaths in the sphere of politics is much higher than 4%.

    The phsychopath lacks the basic traits that most of us have that make us human, genuine empathy for others and compassion. They are parasitic predators that leave a trail of destruction in their wake. There is nothing positive about the psychopath, they are the root cause of a lot of our problems on both a national and personal level. Isn't it time that awareness was raised about this issue?.

    It ain't that easy to find them, only those 2 hunters found L Murphy would anyone ever have suspected him?

    A married man with kids who seemed like a normal man on the street.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,299 ✭✭✭✭MadsL


    Read the entire post in Dr.Phils voice.

    I read your post in Hannibal Lecters voice...


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,381 ✭✭✭Doom


    I will become a "Dexter" type character and kill them all.....
    Names please......


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,801 ✭✭✭Ruudi_Mentari


    Why is it almost exclusively men under such circumstances.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,681 ✭✭✭bodice ripper


    psychopaths are so 80s. we are worried about paedos now.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,489 ✭✭✭Yamanoto


    Great TED Talks lecture on the subject by Jon Ronson



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,801 ✭✭✭Ruudi_Mentari


    psychopaths are so 80s. we are worried about paedos now.

    "A beta man is a better man" have you seen these slogans about town too?!

    Subvert! Maybe men should be permitted to just dominate lest we be rendered peados. And women, know their limits for the is no l'amour in the 'heart' of the city :(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,681 ✭✭✭bodice ripper


    "A beta man is a better man" have you seen these slogans about town too?!

    Subvert! Maybe men should be permitted to just dominate lest we be rendered peados. And women, know their limits for the is no l'amour in the 'heart' of the city :(

    I am afraid I don't follow...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,801 ✭✭✭Ruudi_Mentari


    I am afraid I don't follow...

    Maybe if Peter sutcliffe wrote you'd understand better


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,746 ✭✭✭Duckworth_Luas


    I'm off for a shower!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,681 ✭✭✭bodice ripper


    Maybe if Peter sutcliffe wrote you'd understand better

    Nah, still lost. Though I may be experiencing low info absorption rate today.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,801 ✭✭✭Ruudi_Mentari


    Nah, still lost. Though I may be experiencing low info absorption rate today.

    I can confirm that.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,681 ✭✭✭bodice ripper


    I can confirm that.

    Good. Thank you. It is a relief to have that verified.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,088 ✭✭✭Pug160


    Roughly 4% of people are psychopaths so the chances are most of us have come across at least one. They exist on every level of society and tend to gravitate towards positions where they have power over others. As the psychopath craves positions of power then logically the percentage of psychopaths in the sphere of politics is much higher than 4%.

    The phsychopath lacks the basic traits that most of us have that make us human, genuine empathy for others and compassion. They are parasitic predators that leave a trail of destruction in their wake. There is nothing positive about the psychopath, they are the root cause of a lot of our problems on both a national and personal level. Isn't it time that awareness was raised about this issue?.

    Meh, I'll sleep just fine tonight.

    From what I gather, most of the truly dangerous people need to be both born and made. They need a spark to ignite the fuse.

    If anyone hasn't watched it, check out the interview with Richard Kuklinski on YouTube. The Psychiatrist basically says that in another life Kuklinski could have been a test pilot or been able to do another dangerous but legal job.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 431 ✭✭aido179


    I was told by a shrink that I have psychopathic tendencies. I sort of understand it too - I like to be in control / be in a position of power if I can manage it, regardless of whether or not I'm qualified to be there. I also sometimes find it difficult to relate to peoples problems, and I sort of fake interest or sympathy when in actual fact, I don't care, or I can't imagine or feel what it would be like.

    On the other hand, I respect people hugely (when that respect is earned), I get lonely sometimes (though rarely), and I feel sad occasionally (maybe I'm really feeling frustrated/angry?)

    On the mutated third hand...I think a lot of people think they are psychopaths, and it's such a broad term, it's really meaningless. Like saying a person is confident - some people are far more confident than others or confident at certain things, or in certain situations.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,639 ✭✭✭Miss Lockhart


    I am afraid I don't follow...

    That's how I always feel about Ruudi's posts. I've always just assumed he thinks on some esoteric higher plain than me. I view his posts a bit like Cubist art - I can just about make out the outline of the point but I don't really get it - yet I'm sure it's quality work.

    On the whole I agree with the OP. I'm not really sure where people are getting the idea of hysteria over serial killers from the post - I don't see any suggestion of that. I think these sorts may contribute positively overall in their professional lives in some cases but unfortunately I think they are often very destructive in their personal lives.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,116 ✭✭✭RDM_83 again


    One of my relations was told/warned by a psychiatrist that if he ever met somebody that he felt extremely sympathetic too he was probably dealing with some one with psychopathic tendencies (this is in a particular situation relating to hospitalized people not general life obviously!)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,414 ✭✭✭kraggy


    We could do with a psychopath for Minister for Health.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,681 ✭✭✭bodice ripper


    That's how I always feel about Ruudi's posts. I've always just assumed he thinks on some esoteric higher plain than me. I view his posts a bit like Cubist art - I can just about make out the outline of the point but I don't really get it - yet I'm sure it's quality work.

    .

    Oh god, this has thrown my info absorption rate back into question! At least I knew where I stood before.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 12 spock_jones


    ive only ever dealt with one person in my life who I believe to have been a psychopath , the complete lack of humanity was striking , ice cold personality and and incredibly cruel and nasty mind - tongue

    this person was my boss many years ago while I was overseas


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,088 ✭✭✭Pug160


    That's how I always feel about Ruudi's posts. I've always just assumed he thinks on some esoteric higher plain than me. I view his posts a bit like Cubist art - I can just about make out the outline of the point but I don't really get it - yet I'm sure it's quality work.

    On the whole I agree with the OP. I'm not really sure where people are getting the idea of hysteria over serial killers from the post - I don't see any suggestion of that. I think these sorts may contribute positively overall in their professional lives in some cases but unfortunately I think they are often very destructive in their personal lives.

    Well he is using the term ''psychopath'', in fairness. When I first read it I thought he might have been using the literal clinical term. Maybe he is? 4 percent sounds far too high though obviously, so on second thoughts I'm assuming he means people with certain ''psychopatic'' traits. Does anybody use that term now anyway? I thought it was the more PC term ''sociopath''? Psychopath certainly sounds much scarier though.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,780 ✭✭✭Frank Lee Midere


    ScumLord wrote: »
    I don't think that's true at all. There are varying degrees of psychopathy, many just don't get hung up on other peoples feelings more so that they simply don't care.

    What you're describing is the boggie man. Psychopaths are people with a slightly different view of the world than you. In extreme cases they can turn into murderers but it's not a certainty, 4% of the population aren't serial killers.

    Whose talking about murderers? The 4% tend to be bankers, CEOs, Politcians, Bishops etc. We are sheep led by wolves.


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 99,701 Mod ✭✭✭✭Capt'n Midnight


    The phsychopath lacks the basic traits that most of us have that make us human, genuine empathy for others and compassion.
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-23431793 Psychopaths do not lack empathy, rather they can switch it on at will, according to new research.

    Doing tests on psychopaths and raising awareness just trains them how to hide better, but training them to empathise might work
    "We know they can generate the same response but they do that in an active and effortful way. Under free-viewing conditions they don't seem to. Just because they can emphasise, doesn't mean they will.

    "Psychopathic criminals are clearly different. The million-dollar question is whether we can devise therapeutic interventions that would shift them do this more automatically."


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,801 ✭✭✭Ruudi_Mentari


    I think I might have psychopathic traits, like the residual effect of having been the object of severe psycopathy but then it only comes out online.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 555 ✭✭✭tim3000


    About a year ago I did an evening course it cost quite a bit but was one of the most interesting things I have yet learned about. The course was about sociopaths pedophiles and psychopaths. A Dr of psychology was lecturing us and the only psychopath he himself felt that he met in the real world (excluding prisons) was the one and only Bertie Ahern. He said he looked through him


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