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Russian Skinheads Using Social Media To Lure, Kidnap And Publicly Torture Gay Teens

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,377 ✭✭✭zenno


    Only for electricity and oil, we would still be Neanderthals, even technology can't take us out of the stone-age way of thinking. What a backward world we live in.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,895 ✭✭✭bizmark


    zenno wrote: »
    Only for electricity and oil, we would still be Neanderthals, even technology can't take us out of the stone-age way of thinking. What a backward world we live in.

    What a load of ****


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,506 ✭✭✭✭drunkmonkey


    Meanwhile America arm Taliban to kill Syrian teens and it doesn't even make the news.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,250 ✭✭✭✭Iwasfrozen


    Meanwhile America arm Taliban to kill Syrian teens and it doesn't even make the news.
    Start your own thread.

    As for the OP, disgusting horrible performance that has to be condemned in the strongest manner by all right thinking people.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,801 ✭✭✭✭suicide_circus


    in before "Ireland treats homosexuals worse"


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,944 ✭✭✭✭Links234


    in before "Ireland treats homosexuals worse"

    Why on earth would anyone say that?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,919 ✭✭✭✭Gummy Panda


    I always find Russian Neo-nazis weird. Do they not realise that Nazis hated Russians and wanted them exterminated or enslaved.

    Is homosexuality still illegal in Russia?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,303 ✭✭✭0ph0rce0


    Other than a dribble of beer or something and a girly kick, what happened???


    20 minutes of nothing thats what!!!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,339 ✭✭✭Artful_Badger


    0ph0rce0 wrote: »
    Other than a dribble of beer or something and a girly kick, what happened???


    20 minutes of nothing thats what!!!

    You aren't a former school teacher that was sacked for thinking bullying toughened kids up by any chance are ya ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,910 ✭✭✭✭padd b1975


    To call that torture is an insult to anyone that has been truly tortured down through the ages.

    Bullying? Yes.


    Unpleasant to watch? Yes.


    Homophobic? Yes.


    Torture? No way.


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  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,387 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    I always find Russian Neo-nazis weird. Do they not realise that Nazis hated Russians and wanted them exterminated or enslaved.
    This in a big way. The Nazis saw them as subhumans. They'd laugh at the notion of Russian nazis. Irony doesn't come into it.

    Many worry about Artificial Intelligence. I worry far more about Organic Idiocy.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 36,033 ✭✭✭✭The_Kew_Tour


    Russians are odd bunch.

    When I worked there doing documentary for work on its racial problems it's a country with lot of issues.

    Also people saying it was beer. Would not surprise me if that was petrol. Just theory.

    Problem there is that Neo Nazi are on the rise it's not going away.

    EVENFLOW



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 24,705 CMod ✭✭✭✭Ten of Swords


    padd b1975 wrote: »
    To call that torture is an insult to anyone that has been truly tortured down through the ages.

    The video doesn't show physical torture, the picture in the links does.

    The kid in the video is 15 and has come to Moscow from an outer suburb to sell his virginity (20,000 roubles or about €450) to a much older man.

    The gang that have intercepted him make him say hello to his mother and classmates then they blame him for trying to turn the older man into a paedophile. The passerby in the white jacket with the pink bag (approx 13.30 in the video) agrees with the gang and also berates him saying he must be retarded.

    They say they will send this video to all his friends and they will post it to his VK (Russian facebook) wall every day.

    They also say they are going to 'finish him with sticks'


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 301 ✭✭danish pasterys


    Hate them skinheads i watched them on ross kemp. Fcuking wasters have nothing better to do with there life. I don't know why the police don't crack down on them they even kill foreigners.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,056 ✭✭✭darced


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,129 ✭✭✭PucaMama


    darced wrote: »
    If this is true then the gang is doing him a favour,hardly torture now is it.

    Is homophobic hate crime now "doing someone a favour"?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,065 ✭✭✭Wabbit Ears


    take away the fact that the guy is gay and this would just be an intervention about a young kid that about to do something extremely stupid, dangerous and illegal. The kid is not really being called out for being gay, hes being called out for being pimping his ass.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 24,705 CMod ✭✭✭✭Ten of Swords


    darced wrote: »
    This post has been deleted.

    No, they're really not. His life is ruined (assuming they didn't kill him).

    Russia's attitude to outed homosexuals is about the same as Ireland's attitude would have been in the 70s. Imagine how difficult school and socialising is going to be for him now. His friends will abandon him and he also said his dad will beat the $hit out of him if he finds out.

    I'd say his compulsory military service will be a breeze too.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,056 ✭✭✭darced


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,056 ✭✭✭darced


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,753 ✭✭✭Vito Corleone


    darced wrote: »
    This post has been deleted.

    My understanding is that they made a fake profile to lure him. They didn't save him from anything.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,771 ✭✭✭michael999999


    PucaMama wrote: »
    Is homophobic hate crime now "doing someone a favour"?

    No it would have been a 15 year old kid prostituting himself to a paedophile. Homophobia doesn't come into it!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,167 ✭✭✭Fr_Dougal


    Hate them skinheads i watched them on ross kemp. Fcuking wasters have nothing better to do with there life. I don't know why the police don't crack down on them they even kill foreigners.

    How many skinheads were in that video? Not sure? Watch it again and count them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,037 ✭✭✭Sonics2k


    No it would have been a 15 year old kid prostituting himself to a paedophile. Homophobia doesn't come into it!

    Please, go and read what a paedophile is.
    Having sex with a 15 year old is illegal, but it's not paedophilia.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,056 ✭✭✭darced


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,940 ✭✭✭Corkfeen


    darced wrote: »
    If this is true then the gang is doing him a favour,hardly torture now is it.
    They set him up! Psychological torture is a very real thing . What they did to him will affect him for the remainder of his life. Taking a person around the place and humiliating them and people being okay with it would drive it home even more.

    Russian treatment of people has been atrocious who are gay but apparently there's some people like yourself who won't even condemn it and ignore the seriousness if it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,056 ✭✭✭darced


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,940 ✭✭✭Corkfeen


    darced wrote: »
    I was going on the information I had,Funnily your reaction is my god they are bullying the gay kid while mines is that kid was about to be sexually abused by an adult.

    Of course I condemn it either way,the lesser of two evils is all.
    They knew what he was doing so yes it does appear to be obvious that he was setup.(it was stated in the link) Do you admit it was torture ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,506 ✭✭✭✭drunkmonkey


    He wasn't set up he approached the other guy and was giving him sex for about 1000 euro, he was basically pimping himself , he's 15 years old, this video has nothing got to do with Russia's gay propaganda laws protecting minors. It's completely unrelated.

    Read the comments section in reddit and you'll see exactly where this thread is going....and that's to the pits of hell. Video is old and is been used in the wrong context by people trying to highlight Russia's laws.

    If you want to see gay torture go look at Africa, Zimbabwe and South Africa make this look like the start of a gummy bear series.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,940 ✭✭✭Corkfeen


    There's varying degrees of torture. Drunkmonkey, out of interest what do you think of the recent Russian laws? You seem to be rather approving of them.


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