Lions 2013 Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread

Phoeey · 13-07-2013 05:59PM

stpaddy99 wrote: »

north scored the individual try of the tour.

I think Morahans was better.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nlwCmtLPKbQ

.ak · 13-07-2013 06:20PM

Phoeey wrote: »

I think Morahans was better.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nlwCmtLPKbQ

Yep, between that and the BOD try for me. There was a little bit of blocking going on for Morahans but it was just electric stuff. Reminded me of the try Horne scored for Glasgow.

stpaddy99 · 13-07-2013 06:42PM

.ak wrote: »

Yep, between that and the BOD try for me. There was a little bit of blocking going on for Morahans but it was just electric stuff. Reminded me of the try Horne scored for Glasgow.

we were talking about the lions try of the tour....morahans was the best try of any aussie....the bod try was nowhere near the best....the bias again here is embarassing

.ak · 13-07-2013 06:44PM

stpaddy99 wrote: »

we were talking about the lions try of the tour....morahans was the best try of any aussie....the bod try was nowhere near the best....the bias again here is embarassing

What bias? I'm not allowed think BOD's try was the best because it was Irish? And the reason I gave was because of the setup by an Englishman? Not sure where you got that from?

ConFurioso · 13-07-2013 06:44PM

He said 'Try of the Tournament'.

stpaddy99 · 13-07-2013 06:59PM

.ak wrote: »

What bias? I'm not allowed think BOD's try was the best because it was Irish? And the reason I gave was because of the setup by an Englishman? Not sure where you got that from?

I think youre being biased about Bods try....it was a good try but nowhere near the best try and the game was profoundly unimportant...morihans was out of this world though

.ak · 13-07-2013 07:01PM

stpaddy99 wrote: »

I think youre being biased....it was a good try but nowhere near the best try and the game was profoundly unimportant

I think it's unfair to accuse me of biased just because I selected BOD's try? I already explained the reason I selected the try was because of Sexton and Tuilagi's work? So I still don't get why you think I'm biased?

Christy42 · 14-07-2013 08:21AM

.ak wrote: »

I think it's unfair to accuse me of biased just because I selected BOD's try? I already explained the reason I selected the try was because of Sexton and Tuilagi's work? So I still don't get why you think I'm biased?

It was nowhere near as good as Morahan's/Norths. It was a well worked try but it was against a weak defense and was a relatively simple drill in comparison to the tries involving beating multiple defenders.

"It was set up by an Englishman." is not a great excuse to say you aren't biased. It is kinda like when people on here (not necessarily you) said they wanted SOB instead of Warbs but stated they would accept Tips cos they weren't biased. As soon as Warburton got injured suddenly the boards were up in arms over the thought that Tipuric might actually get selection ahead of O'Brien.

ConFurioso · 14-07-2013 09:14AM

Christy42 wrote: »

It was nowhere near as good as Morahan's/Norths. It was a well worked try but it was against a weak defense and was a relatively simple drill in comparison to the tries involving beating multiple defenders.

Subjective, and you're 100% within your rights to make that argument.

I personally think Morahan's was the best of the tournament.

.ak thinks it was BOD's.

He was ridiculously accused of being biased, and although he didn't have to, he gave a reasoned argument as to why it WASN'T a biased decision.

Nobody has given a reason as to why they think he's biased. Know why? I'll give you a hint:

He's not biased.* It's a bloody opinion as to which try he preferred on the tournament. End of story.

*I mean....look at his bloody avatar!!!

Ugo Monye spacecraft experience · 14-07-2013 09:42AM

stpaddy99 wrote: »

youre not a lions fan , you were supporting Australia so what do you care?

I am a Lions fan, but even if I wasn't why the hell wouldn't I be entitled to an opinion on the matter?

.ak · 14-07-2013 10:13AM

Christy42 wrote: »

It was nowhere near as good as Morahan's/Norths. It was a well worked try but it was against a weak defense and was a relatively simple drill in comparison to the tries involving beating multiple defenders.

"It was set up by an Englishman." is not a great excuse to say you aren't biased. It is kinda like when people on here (not necessarily you) said they wanted SOB instead of Warbs but stated they would accept Tips cos they weren't biased. As soon as Warburton got injured suddenly the boards were up in arms over the thought that Tipuric might actually get selection ahead of O'Brien.

Who was up in arms over tips being selected ahead of SOB?

I can safely say I'm not being biased, and frankly it's getting quite boring that people are being accused of being biased if they mention an Irish player. Same goes for the 'green tinted glasses thing'.

I was objective as to why I felt it was the try if the tournament. I'm far more of a fan of a well worked set piece try involving a number if players rather than an individual broken field try.

What's not objective is people accusing posters of being biased at first opportunity just because it doesn't suit their agenda.

BBDBB · 14-07-2013 10:16AM

Daddy or Chips?

Ugo Monye spacecraft experience · 14-07-2013 11:03AM

Stephen Jones, obviously not in anyway able to engage in rational thought has blocked me on twitter for suggesting that saying Gatland had the midas touch and Davies was brilliant was an exaggeration at best. Nothing abusive in the tweet at all, yet rather than try rationally engage with someone he tweets back calling me a "myopic Irishman eating sour grapes" or some such nonsense and then blocks me

How that man gets paid to write about rugby is beyond me

Teferi · 14-07-2013 11:27AM

Ugo Monye spacecraft experience wrote: »

Stephen Jones, obviously not in anyway able to engage in rational thought has blocked me on twitter for suggesting that saying Gatland had the midas touch and Davies was brilliant was an exaggeration at best. Nothing abusive in the tweet at all, yet rather than try rationally engage with someone he tweets back calling me a "myopic Irishman eating sour grapes" or some such nonsense and then blocks me

How that man gets paid to write about rugby is beyond me

Join the club lad. I tweeted him saying he was calling other people biased without a hint of irony and it was hilarious. Similar reply and blocked. Awful, awful pundit.

pickarooney · 14-07-2013 02:01PM

me bolly wrote: »

They need to give more points for drop goals.
It's a skill shot that needs to be rewarded more and would up the ante in the game .

Morné Steyn likes this.

.ak · 14-07-2013 10:31PM

Jesus no. It's already ruined the T14.

P_1 · 14-07-2013 11:26PM

me bolly wrote: »

They need to give more points for drop goals.
It's a skill shot that needs to be rewarded more and would up the ante in the game .

Ah no, I actually like the fact that they're only 1 pointers in the other code. Useful to make it a 2 score game towards the end or to snatch that one point win

mystic86 · 14-07-2013 11:30PM

excellent video of highlights of the Lions Tour:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SRvFA68V-oI

danthefan · 14-07-2013 11:31PM

me bolly wrote: »

They need to give more points for drop goals.
It's a skill shot that needs to be rewarded more and would up the ante in the game .

What it would do is make teams endlessly attempt drop goals. Any law changes involving scoring should exclusively be aimed at encouraging teams to score more tries.

But as it happens I think the scoring system is just fine as it is.

Swiwi. · 14-07-2013 11:38PM

me bolly wrote: »

They need to give more points for drop goals.
It's a skill shot that needs to be rewarded more and would up the ante in the game .

Um, no thanks. I realise back in the day a try was only worth 3 points, and maybe even earlier a try simply gave you the right to take a kick at goal, but the last thing rugby needs is teams attempting drop-goals ad nauseum. If anything, I'd consider a reduction to 2 points. I well remember Jannie de Beer's 5 dropgoals in a match...

.ak · 15-07-2013 12:40AM

pickarooney wrote: »

Morné Steyn likes this.

Francois's an even bigger fan.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DkPOO2tF0o

Means Of Escape · 15-07-2013 01:41AM

Le vieux renard wrote: »

Um, no thanks. I realise back in the day a try was only worth 3 points, and maybe even earlier a try simply gave you the right to take a kick at goal, but the last thing rugby needs is teams attempting drop-goals ad nauseum. If anything, I'd consider a reduction to 2 points. I well remember Jannie de Beer's 5 dropgoals in a match...

Balance it to deter have a go drop kicks by giving a scrum to the opposition ten metres back from the spot where the failed attempt was taken .

fitz · 15-07-2013 07:15AM

me bolly wrote: »

Balance it to deter have a go drop kicks by giving a scrum to the opposition ten metres back from the spot where the failed attempt was taken .

Yeah, cause what we need is more scrums... :P

Swiwi. · 15-07-2013 07:40AM

fitz wrote: »

Yeah, cause what we need is more scrums... :P

Definitely. It's win-win. You either get 3 points for a successful droppie, or you get 3 points from the resulting scrum penalty.

Buer · 15-07-2013 08:43AM

Turns out Warburton's hamstring is a lot worse than initially feared and he's going to be out of the game for 3 - 4 months. He may be back for their first couple of HEC games if rehab goes well.

.ak · 15-07-2013 09:19AM

Buer wrote: »

Turns out Warburton's hamstring is a lot worse than initially feared and he's going to be out of the game for 3 - 4 months. He may be back for their first couple of HEC games if rehab goes well.

Hrmm, you wonder if he was rushed back... Was it his hamstring that kept him out of the warm up games?

Buer · 15-07-2013 09:22AM

.ak wrote: »

Hrmm, you wonder if he was rushed back... Was it his hamstring that kept him out of the warm up games?

Knee.

Means Of Escape · 15-07-2013 10:33AM

Le vieux renard wrote: »

Definitely. It's win-win. You either get 3 points for a successful droppie, or you get 3 points from the resulting scrum penalty.

Read it again
The team who failed to score with an attempted drop goal gets penalised by losing ground and a scrum awarded to the other team.

Lelantos · 15-07-2013 11:09AM

me bolly wrote: »

Read it again
The team who failed to score with an attempted drop goal gets penalised by losing ground and a scrum awarded to the other team.

He perhaps meant that you take a pop at the drop goal, if you miss, you then have a chance of getting a pen from the scrum & getting a free shot at goal. Odds stacked against the defending team

irishbucsfan · 15-07-2013 01:44PM

me bolly wrote: »

Read it again
The team who failed to score with an attempted drop goal gets penalised by losing ground and a scrum awarded to the other team.

So then only teams who were confident in their scrums would take drop goals

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