Arsenal Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 2013

MaxPower89 · 12-07-2013 03:48PM

Has the boss given an interview today? SSN saying "We will hear from Arsene Wenger soon"...

12-07-2013 03:49PM

batistuta9 wrote: »

he'll miss 4 games, i think, big deal. He could get suspended again possibly but wilshere could get injured again too, should he be let go just in case that happens or is he worth keeping?
Same with Saurez, he's worth the potential games he could miss

There's risk factors involved in ever transfer, Higuain could sign & struggle to adapt to life in england, etc.

you can't no but the point was where was this concern about class then?

I'm not really bothered about what he has done in the past, i don't what to get into it either, it's what he can do on the pitch is all the concerns me

Saurez would be a better signing than Higuain or Rooney i think, that's why

Being a winning team is more important on the financial side, which i think you're talking about about than being clean cut choirboys scraping fourth.

There is a good core in our current squad and the big factor is we haven't had strength in depth since taking the budgeted approach to transfers.

The fact we are getting fourth at the very least year on year is a testament to that. If our squad had been stronger then we may have challenged for titles but the fact is we just didnt have the strength in numbers for when we got injuries and suspensions and yes alot of signings didnt work out but they were all we could afford in all honesty.

Personally Higuain is a better fit then Suarez any day of the week and cheaper too. I think he'd bang em in in England

12-07-2013 03:52PM

MaxPower89 wrote: »

Has the boss given an interview today? SSN saying "We will hear from Arsene Wenger soon"...

Usual SSN trying to draw Wenger out and AW either dismissive straight off or keeping coy. "Suarez/Higuain is one of many options we are looking at blah blah blah"

I dont think he has given many interviews the past while due to hols etc so we might finally get an insight into any transfer activity. The level of his coyness may prove an indicator

HazDanz · 12-07-2013 03:59PM

Deleted User wrote: »

Usual SSN trying to draw Wenger out and AW either dismissive straight off or keeping coy. "Suarez/Higuain is one of many options we are looking at blah blah blah"

I dont think he has given many interviews the past while due to hols etc so we might finally get an insight into any transfer activity. The level of his coyness may prove an indicator

And the wry troll smile he is so fond off.

wawaman · 12-07-2013 04:01PM

Deleted User wrote: »

No doubt he will. Finishing wise he is ruthless alot like the way his fellow countryman Gabriel Batistuta was.

Batistuta was from Argentina !! But i get what your saying

maximoose · 12-07-2013 04:05PM

wawaman wrote: »

Batistuta was from Argentina !! But i get what your saying

He was talking about Higuain, no?

wawaman · 12-07-2013 04:08PM

maximoose wrote: »

He was talking about Higuain, no?

Yeh sorry my mistake. The heat and lack of transfers has me fried !!:o

12-07-2013 04:15PM

wawaman wrote: »

Yeh sorry my mistake. The heat and lack of transfers has me fried !!:o

Bullshít. Your probably a TD who was up drinking with his mates til 5am.

batistuta9 · 12-07-2013 04:22PM

Clement Grenier has signed a new 2 year contract with Lyon
http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11670/8820590/Clement-Grenier-signs-new-Lyon-deal-to-end-Arsenal-speculation

there's one to cross off the potential list anyway

12-07-2013 04:24PM

batistuta9 wrote: »

Clement Grenier has signed a new 2 year contract with Lyon
http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11670/8820590/Clement-Grenier-signs-new-Lyon-deal-to-end-Arsenal-speculation

there's one to cross off the potential list anyway

If it was us trying to fend off Barca/Real it would mean fúck all except perhaps insurance on getting a bigger fee

batistuta9 · 12-07-2013 04:26PM

Deleted User wrote: »

If it was us trying to fend off Barca/Real it would mean fúck all except perhaps insurance on getting a bigger fee

what?

12-07-2013 04:30PM

batistuta9 wrote: »

what?

Just suggesting that if we were in the same situation as Lyon were with Grenier, signing a contract would mean little to the vultures except securing a bigger fee for ourselves in negotiations

HazDanz · 12-07-2013 04:35PM

Deleted User wrote: »

Just suggesting that if we were in the same situation as Lyon were with Grenier, signing a contract would mean little to the vultures except securing a bigger fee for ourselves in negotiations

I would agree with you if it was back at January time but in this window to do that to their own fans would be pretty sh*tty wouldn't it?

batistuta9 · 12-07-2013 04:36PM

Deleted User wrote: »

Just suggesting that if we were in the same situation as Lyon were with Grenier, signing a contract would mean little to the vultures except securing a bigger fee for ourselves in negotiations

no probably not, could put it off for a year though

a Brazilian site is reporting interest in Bernard and might bid in the next 11 days, an extract, google translated

The Super FC also found that an emissary Brazilian market on the ball, which is in London, was with the entrepreneur Giuliano Bertolucci, responsible for the career of Bernard. In a conversation between the parties, Bertolucci would have revealed that Arsenal have on hand a complete study of statistics and the extra-field behavior of the attacking midfielder of Atletico. And to do that the proposal by the player, the English team would dispense even sending a technical observer to Brazil.

http://www.otempo.com.br/superfc/arsenal-entra-na-briga-para-contratar-bernard-1.679790

Marty McFly · 12-07-2013 04:36PM

I don't thin he meant as a release clause more as it will take 40million to get Liverpool to let him go.

As for Suarez, well give me Higuain/ Suarez/ Rooney in that order were I to have a choice.

Suarez is a liability and bad for the reputation of the club with his antics, and dismiss that all you want but reputation goes along way in todays football economics, which can help drive the club forward. But it this way say in America were football mightnt be highly televised but a Suarez biting incident gets big media coverage do you really think big companies will be falling all over themselves to get in business with us No, do you think fans will see that and we will become the club to hate YES two causing two big losses of revenue.

PLus he could spend half his time suspended.

Would I still take him yes he has bundles of talent and is a great player but for the club on and off the pitch give me Higuain anyday over him.

12-07-2013 04:40PM

HazDanz wrote: »

I would agree with you if it was back at January time but in this window to do that to their own fans would be pretty sh*tty wouldn't it?

Money talks in football and fans are fickle enough. Lyon have form when it comes to selling. Tying Grenier down to a new contract might put him into a different price range and give Lyon more bargain power but thats all it does

Ive seen so many key players leaving Arsenal since i started supporting them around 1990 that each time a great player leaves, that bitter sting of sorrow lasts for less and less time each time it happens. The odd tinge when i see them scoring for United all right but generally i get over it

jonneymendoza · 12-07-2013 04:43PM

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But the strong counter argument is that he is no good off the pitch suspended and he has form in this regard. Also consider the money we are paying for him and the wages he'll get. A potential £40m for a player who'll miss the first few games of the season. Great player he may be but a huge huge risk factor involved. You have to allow the fact there could possibly be a witch hunt on his back also

lots of past arsenal players have been like that before they met wenger. wenger has the ability to change a players attitude

brianregan09 · 12-07-2013 04:43PM

Clement Grenier signed a new 2 year deal i guess thats one target we definitly won't be getting

niallo27 · 12-07-2013 04:46PM

Marty McFly wrote: »

I don't thin he meant as a release clause more as it will take 40million to get Liverpool to let him go.

As for Suarez, well give me Higuain/ Suarez/ Rooney in that order were I to have a choice.

Suarez is a liability and bad for the reputation of the club with his antics, and dismiss that all you want but reputation goes along way in todays football economics, which can help drive the club forward. But it this way say in America were football mightnt be highly televised but a Suarez biting incident gets big media coverage do you really think big companies will be falling all over themselves to get in business with us No, do you think fans will see that and we will become the club to hate YES two causing two big losses of revenue.

PLus he could spend half his time suspended.

Would I still take him yes he has bundles of talent and is a great player but for the club on and off the pitch give me Higuain anyday over him.

I think this overplayed in my opinion, I dont think it has affected liverpool economics in any way. No publicity is bad publicity in this and age, most owners dont know **** all about football and comapanies have short memories, just look at tiger woods. Suarez would be a fantastic signing for any club. He does get suspended a bit but he is never injured so it does even out a bit.

12-07-2013 04:46PM

jonneymendoza wrote: »

lots of past arsenal players have been like that before they met wenger. wenger has the ability to change a players attitude

He does. but alot of players have given him a proverbial 2 fingers too for all he done for them. Look at Van Persie.

Then you have the dross like Arshavin and Bendtner who just collect their wages every week and give little back (Bendy Boots look like he still will)

12-07-2013 04:47PM

The endorsements thing dont worry me too much re Suarez...its how often he'll be out on the field. He is a ticking time bomb.

niallo27 · 12-07-2013 04:53PM

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The endorsements thing dont worry me too much re Suarez...its how often he'll be out on the field. He is a ticking time bomb.

He played 33 league games for liverpool last year.

Marty McFly · 12-07-2013 04:57PM

niallo27 wrote: »

I think this overplayed in my opinion, I dont think it has affected liverpool economics in any way. No publicity is bad publicity in this and age, most owners dont know **** all about football and comapanies have short memories, just look at tiger woods. Suarez would be a fantastic signing for any club. He does get suspended a bit but he is never injured so it does even out a bit.

I honestly don't think it is, if a player at you club becomes hate figure which Suarez to a certain degree or has become for some people its going to discourage kids to follow said club loss in future revenue and it will keep sponsors away and make deal harder, Tiger Wodds was a bad example his earnings still are quite a bit off from what they were in the height of his fame and fortune

kinda proving my point :P.

I don't know about that excuse either players get injured but taking a player on in the notion sure he never gets injured any game he will miss will probably just be down to some randoming biting incident or racist comment just sounds like mad rationing.

imtdub · 12-07-2013 05:04PM

Just from BBC...

"BBC Sport's David Ornstein: "Arsenal are pursuing Real Madrid's Gonzalo Higuain and Liverpool's Luis Suarez at the same time. They are only interested in signing one of the strikers, but one is likely to slip away so by going after both they hope to end up with the other.

"Higuain will take time because the clubs cannot agree a fee and, although the player is keen to join, the arrival of Carlo Ancelotti as Real manager has complicated things because he apparently wants Higuain to stay"

HazDanz · 12-07-2013 05:09PM

imtdub wrote: »

Just from BBC...

"BBC Sport's David Ornstein: "Arsenal are pursuing Real Madrid's Gonzalo Higuain and Liverpool's Luis Suarez at the same time. They are only interested in signing one of the strikers, but one is likely to slip away so by going after both they hope to end up with the other.

"Higuain will take time because the clubs cannot agree a fee and, although the player is keen to join, the arrival of Carlo Ancelotti as Real manager has complicated things because he apparently wants Higuain to stay"

Another chapter for that fabled Wenger Autobiography so.

Drexel · 12-07-2013 05:12PM

imtdub wrote: »

Just from BBC...

"BBC Sport's David Ornstein: "Arsenal are pursuing Real Madrid's Gonzalo Higuain and Liverpool's Luis Suarez at the same time. They are only interested in signing one of the strikers, but one is likely to slip away so by going after both they hope to end up with the other.

"Higuain will take time because the clubs cannot agree a fee and, although the player is keen to join, the arrival of Carlo Ancelotti as Real manager has complicated things because he apparently wants Higuain to stay"

I'd be over the moon with either. Just as long as one of them come in

Imagine the football Wenger could get out of Suarez in his peak tho! The more I think about it the more I want him ha!

imtdub · 12-07-2013 05:21PM

for once we're after real big names, not just the hogwash of every year....

Marty McFly · 12-07-2013 05:27PM

imtdub wrote: »

for once we're after real big names, not just the hogwash of every year....

It's hogwash until we actually get one

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bad2dabone · 12-07-2013 05:35PM

It's like chasing 2 birds at a party, we'll end up going home alone i tells ya!

.jacksparrow. · 12-07-2013 05:38PM

Tom many hurdles in the way of getting Suarez just sign hig ffs.

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