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Xtra Vision to be placed into Receivership

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,380 ✭✭✭daRobot


    Shame. It's nice to be able to go rent a bluray when you want to watch something in full quality.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9 Movie_Nut89


    Such a shame, I love going in browsing for dvd's! With the 4 for 22e deal, how can you go wrong with brand new still in the wrapping dvd's. I might not rent a movie but still loved going in there :( sad times!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,326 ✭✭✭Jason Todd




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,566 ✭✭✭SCOOP 64


    Thats good news, my boys will be happy!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,788 ✭✭✭tvnutz


    Jason Todd wrote: »

    The store in Celbridge has a closing down sale on at the moment, that article suggested all stores would be kept open. Any further news on this?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 91,081 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    Jason Todd wrote: »

    So will some stores still be closing?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 44,603 ✭✭✭✭Basq


    JP Liz V1 wrote: »
    So will some stores still be closing?
    The Sligo store certainly is.. staff were told last Tuesday, and they're having a closing down sale at the minute.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 991 ✭✭✭Leo Demidov




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,563 ✭✭✭Mizu_Ger


    Every Xtravision near me is closing down. It seems like they are closing all of them, maybe to renegotiate rents before reopening???


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  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 26,064 Mod ✭✭✭✭Loughc


    http://www.independent.ie/business/irish/xtravision-to-trial-kiosks-for-renting-movies-and-games-29527547.html

    Another update, interesting ideas there;
    The company is in negotiations with supermarket chains to roll out the venture within the next six to eight weeks.
    Hilco said that the first rental under the vending machine concept is free, while a rental after that will be €2.99.
    As well as the 89 Irish stores, Hilco is looking at possibly taking on a number of other closed outlets within the Xtra Vision brand subject to securing favourable deals with landlords.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,560 ✭✭✭✭Kess73


    They think that the use of vending machine will help towards future proofing the business?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,553 ✭✭✭✭Dempsey


    Kess73 wrote: »
    They think that the use of vending machine will help towards future proofing the business?

    VHS Vending Machines didnt work 20 years ago, cant see this working with DVD/BluRay


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,967 ✭✭✭Banjaxed82


    Jesus, how will vending machines solve the problem? :confused:

    Netflix were using vending machines 140 years ago. Maybe there are some people who want to rent a physical product, but there's not nearly enough to sustain it. The mind...boggles.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,942 ✭✭✭McLoughlin


    Maybe because allot of places in Ireland don't have great Internet speed and unable to use Netflix.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,132 ✭✭✭✭Cienciano


    McLoughlin wrote: »
    Maybe because allot of places in Ireland don't have great Internet speed and unable to use Netflix.
    You're right, but the market for renting through vending machines would be very small.
    Renting movies is an industry that's almost dead, indicated brilliantly in Southpark when Randy buys a Blockbuster video store and slowly goes mad.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,797 ✭✭✭sweetie


    McLoughlin wrote: »
    Maybe because allot of places in Ireland don't have great Internet speed and unable to use Netflix.

    Netflix works great on slow braodband and 3g even. My sister lives in a place with 1mb broadband (my 3g is better) and they can watch it fine.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,906 ✭✭✭EGriff


    Game rentals could do well in a vending machine if they keep them well stocked.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 866 ✭✭✭LuckyFinigan


    EGriff wrote: »
    Game rentals could do well in a vending machine if they keep them well stocked.

    Where would these vending machines go tho? If they're out on the street you could sure that they would be broken into or vandalized.


  • Posts: 15,814 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Where would these vending machines go tho? If they're out on the street you could sure that they would be broken into or vandalized.

    Lots of supermarkets already have rental kiosks and from what I've heard they are quite profitable.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,563 ✭✭✭Mizu_Ger


    Where would these vending machines go tho? If they're out on the street you could sure that they would be broken into or vandalized.

    They'd copy the Redbox/Blockbuster machines in the US and put them (indoors) in supermarkets and shopping centres. You rent a disk from a machine and then have 24hrs to return it to any machine you want or pay an extra day's rental charge.

    Their machines can be checked online too, so you can see what's available in each machine right now and either reserve a disk for collection or go straight away and pick it up.

    I spent a few months in the US a few years back and used them all the time. I think it would be a great idea. No membership is needed, you just create an account with your credit card and use it when you rent a disk.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,906 ✭✭✭EGriff


    What's to stop people returning the box with no disc in it? Are they checked after every rental? If not then its your word against the last persons as to which of you swiped the disc.

    I've seen posts on reddit of people receiving rentals in the post with a cut out photocopy of the disc in the box.

    Pic: http://i.imgur.com/ucNDdMz.jpg


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,563 ✭✭✭Mizu_Ger


    EGriff wrote: »
    What's to stop people returning the box with no disc in it? Are they checked after every rental? If not then its your word against the last persons as to which of you swiped the disc.

    I've seen posts on reddit of people receiving rentals in the post with a cut out photocopy of the disc in the box.

    Pic: http://i.imgur.com/ucNDdMz.jpg

    For the vending machines, the barcode is on the disk, not the case. The box is transparent on one side and when it's returned to the machine it scans the barcode and displays that it's been returned.

    I had one occasion where I returned a disk to a Blockbuster machine and it swallowed the disk, but didn't register the return. I rang them and they said their people visit the machine at least once a week and would check if the disk was in there somewhere. A few days later I was told that the disk was found in the machine and I wasn't charged anything.

    If you don't put the disk in the case, or the barcode is not facing out or something like that, it just spits the disk back out and tells you the disk is not facing the right way in the case. I'm not sure how they can check if it's really a disk in there or just a photocopy.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,906 ✭✭✭EGriff


    Yes but a photocopy of the disc will have the barcode on it too. And a barcode scanner is not going to be able to tell the difference.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,563 ✭✭✭Mizu_Ger


    EGriff wrote: »
    Yes but a photocopy of the disc will have the barcode on it too. And a barcode scanner is not going to be able to tell the difference.

    Yeah, I don't how they check that. It'll know if there's nothing in the case.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,132 ✭✭✭✭Cienciano


    Might be handy if there's no internet, but I can think of about 10 better ways to view movies that are a lot cheaper!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,967 ✭✭✭Banjaxed82


    Mizu_Ger wrote: »
    They'd copy the Redbox/Blockbuster machines in the US and put them (indoors) in supermarkets and shopping centres. You rent a disk from a machine and then have 24hrs to return it to any machine you want or pay an extra day's rental charge.

    Their machines can be checked online too, so you can see what's available in each machine right now and either reserve a disk for collection or go straight away and pick it up.

    I spent a few months in the US a few years back and used them all the time. I think it would be a great idea. No membership is needed, you just create an account with your credit card and use it when you rent a disk.

    In lies the fundamental flaw in their business plan.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,645 ✭✭✭Daemos


    Cienciano wrote: »
    Might be handy if there's no internet, but I can think of about 10 better ways to view movies that are a lot cheaper!
    Go on then...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,132 ✭✭✭✭Cienciano


    Don't want a ban :pac:


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,906 ✭✭✭EGriff


    Cienciano wrote: »
    Might be handy if there's no internet, but I can think of about 10 better ways to view movies that are a lot cheaper!

    Free is a kind of cheaper :pac:

    I think this business model would be good for blu ray though as well as games, streaming quality is often pretty crappy and I imagine most people would pay a few euro to get a high quality copy of a new release rather than wait about 5 hours for an actual HD copy to download. Not everyone has 50mb UPC.

    They have to make it cheap though, no one is going to pay a price that approaches their monthly Netflix sub to watch one film. If its more than lets say €4 then its gone out of the realm of an impulse buy that you might grab while in the shop getting something else.


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