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Fast & Furious 6

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 48,600 ✭✭✭✭Mitch Connor


    kaimera wrote: »
    highly enjoyable action movie with car sequences.

    really liked the Han stuff at the end.

    the pacing was pretty solid. action sequences were for the most part very impressive (bar part of the bridge sequence :/)

    It's come a long way from The Fast & The Furious anyway, no longer primarily about cars or tuning.
    4, 5 and 6 are all the same in that respect - it is about being 'drivers' as opposed to modders. A good change of direction for the series, all very enjoyable for it. 5 the best of them, imo.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,464 ✭✭✭e_e


    A much more purely entertaining and exciting blockbuster than Iron Man 3. It's not afraid of being ridiculous and is all the more fun for it.

    I hope the next one has a scene with
    The Rock and Jason Statham throwing each other around a china shop.


  • Posts: 15,814 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Just out of this and I have say that Fast & Furious 6 is the most fun that I have had in the cinema in a long, long time. The franchise continues to defy expectation and is the rarest of series, one that has improved with each sequel. Part 6 is everything that a big budget summer blockbuster should be. It has a number of thrilling set pieces, one of the dumbest yet brilliant wtf moments in the history of cinema
    Dom flying through the air to save Letty. It was absolutely ridiculous and all the better for it
    , a script that is extremely well written with some of the funniest dialogue I've heard in an age and a cast who give it their all. It even manages to instill a little emotion and toward the end there is one breath taking moment that packs far more emotion than it has any right to.

    I said it after part 5 and I'll say it again. Justin Lin is a brilliant director, he can stage action like no other. He has expressed interest in helming the Highlander remake and tbh every studio in Hollywood should be throwing open their doors and asking him "whatever do you want to do, you can do it here"

    Far as I'm concerned Fast and Furious 6 is the best summer blockbuster we've had since, well since part 5. It's refreshing to find a big dumb film that isn't afraid to have a little fun. Iron Man 3 and Star Trek: Into Darkness were entertaining but they really aren't a patch on F&F 6. Iron Man took itself far too seriously and Into Darkness seemed afraid to slow down and just hurtled from one set piece to the next where as F&F 6 seemed to relish in the quiet moments between madness. I'm actually looking forward to grabbing the Blu-Ray of this and sitting a few friends down to watch it.


  • Posts: 2,822 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Yep its a big dumb film alright! So many holes in the plot and script its cringe worthy. Its like the writers treat the audience as morons, and the audience happily accepts. This is the way blockbusters are going these day - expendables and so on. I can see the producers sitting around now discussing it: "look guys, our audience just wana see things blow up, and lame one line comments, unrealistics stunts and CGI. This is their diet. So don't worry about putting a decent script together, making sense of everything. Stupid stunts, get the cars driving fast, move the dialogue around the room like like an 8pm NBC drama, get the token cast members to run through their one liners and we have a winner"

    People might say, im happy to watch a no brainer movie and eat some popcorn. The thing is now some of these films coming out are so moronic and badly put together in terms of story, script, chain of events they are almost like parodies of themselves. Hollywood has given up on story and all it has to do nowadays is put a few bright colours and flying wrestlers on screen to capture the 'minds' of the general public. No brainer action flicks have taken no brains to another level. They are really taking the piss at this stage.

    I watched Alan Parker on hard talk the other week. He said cinema is different now, big now movies are forgettable the minute you walk out of the cinema. Couldn't agree more.
    Roll on the flames from FAF fans!:D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,464 ✭✭✭e_e


    Roll on the flames from FAF fans!:D
    Aren't you the big internet rebel? I've never seen such edgy opinions before.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,464 ✭✭✭e_e


    There are several film series you can attack before getting to this, you said it treats its audience like morons and I couldn't disagree more. Justin Lin is very much aware of how ridiculous elements of these films are and he invites the audience along to revel in it. There's real affection for the genre and its fans while not being cynical and borderline offensive like the work of Michael Bay.

    Frankly I thought this was more coherent and consistently exciting than any Marvel movie in recent memory (I still can't think of a single wow moment in Iron Man 3). Also just because I like to watch well orchestrated car chases from time to time doesn't mean I dislike more "serious" cinema. Your post seems overly dismissive of what is fairly solid, all inclusive and innocuous summer fare. There's as much a place for big dumb (but knowingly so) movies done well as for anything else, no need for the elitism.


  • Posts: 15,814 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Yep its a big dumb film alright! So many holes in the plot and script its cringe worthy. Its like the writers treat the audience as morons, and the audience happily accepts. This is the way blockbusters are going these day - expendables and so on. I can see the producers sitting around now discussing it: "look guys, our audience just wana see things blow up, and lame one line comments, unrealistics stunts and CGI. This is their diet. So don't worry about putting a decent script together, making sense of everything. Stupid stunts, get the cars driving fast, move the dialogue around the room like like an 8pm NBC drama, get the token cast members to run through their one liners and we have a winner"

    People might say, im happy to watch a no brainer movie and eat some popcorn. The thing is now some of these films coming out are so moronic and badly put together in terms of story, script, chain of events they are almost like parodies of themselves. Hollywood has given up on story and all it has to do nowadays is put a few bright colours and flying wrestlers on screen to capture the 'minds' of the general public. No brainer action flicks have taken no brains to another level. They are really taking the piss at this stage.

    I watched Alan Parker on hard talk the other week. He said cinema is different now, big now movies are forgettable the minute you walk out of the cinema. Couldn't agree more.
    Roll on the flames from FAF fans!:D

    Don't like a film, attack the audience a d imply they are idiots. Always loved that way of thinking.

    You say Hollywood has given up on story yet F&F 6 has one if the best ongoing stories of any franchise. The way that the writer has managed to link every entry in the series is down right brilliant. Seriously, Chris Morgan could have easily just knocked out some generic 90 pages of thrills and spills but he's actually put some thought into what he's doing. Sure it's a film made up of ridiculous set pieces but that's the point. They aren't trying to be Rashomon or The Seventh Seal, they are actively trying to be 120 minutes of cinema that you can sit back and go with. The stunts are ridiculous and over the top but that's half the fun. You call the films brain dead but that's ludicrous, there was more going in F&F 6 than many s more serious drama. Your attention was rewarded, you can't just sit there and veg out. If you do you'd miss a number of well played out plot lines.

    As for the plot holes. Well pretty much every film has them and I'm far more forgiving of them here than in other films. There were a few holes in recent blockbusters that bugged me after the film, none of the ones here have. Ion fact every time I think back over what I saw last night I remember the flying scene and chuckle. It was the stupidest thing I have ever seen yet it was also brilliant.

    I could go on and on about why I like the film but let's be honest, your post is one if those that's desperately trying to be witty and superior but much like the blockbusters you seem to despise there's nothing to it. It's the same tired and generic sniping that film snobs drag out over and over again. If enjoying F&F 6 means that I'm dumb then so be it. I'd rather have people look down on me and enjoy cinema than try to desperately appear above the average blockbuster by insulting those that like it. Now I'm off to watch Battle Beyond the Stars as the original Seven Samurai may be too intellectual for a dummy like me.


  • Posts: 2,822 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    e_e wrote: »
    There are several film series you can attack before getting to this, you said it treats its audience like morons and I couldn't disagree more. Justin Lin is very much aware of how ridiculous elements of these films are and he invites the audience along to revel in it. There's real affection for the genre and its fans while not being cynical and borderline offensive like the work of Michael Bay.

    Frankly I thought this was more coherent and consistently exciting than any Marvel movie in recent memory (I still can't think of a single wow moment in Iron Man 3). Also just because I like to watch well orchestrated car chases from time to time doesn't mean I dislike more "serious" cinema. Your post seems overly dismissive of what is fairly solid, all inclusive and innocuous summer fare. There's as much a place for big dumb (but knowingly so) movies done well as for anything else, no need for the elitism.

    I dont think Im being elitist at all here. Im not asking for serious cinema, blockbusters are fine, but inviting the audience to revel in stupidty, I don't get that as an art form unless we are dealing with a comedy.
    This franchise is a great idea. Expandables franchise is a great idea. Why can't they write something decent, and put proper stunts on instead of stuff so basic and ignorant and formulaic? Why cant a decent writer be put into one of these flicks? Some of the writing for the characters is just awful.

    And yes im the hard of the hardcore internet rebels!!!!


  • Posts: 2,822 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Don't like a film, attack the audience a d imply they are idiots. Always loved that way of thinking.

    You say Hollywood has given up on story yet F&F 6 has one if the best ongoing stories of any franchise. The way that the writer has managed to link every entry in the series is down right brilliant. Seriously, Chris Morgan could have easily just knocked out some generic 90 pages of thrills and spills but he's actually put some thought into what he's doing. Sure it's a film made up of ridiculous set pieces but that's the point. They aren't trying to be Rashomon or The Seventh Seal, they are actively trying to be 120 minutes of cinema that you can sit back and go with. The stunts are ridiculous and over the top but that's half the fun. You call the films brain dead but that's ludicrous, there was more going in F&F 6 than many s more serious drama. Your attention was rewarded, you can't just sit there and veg out. If you do you'd miss a number of well played out plot lines.

    As for the plot holes. Well pretty much every film has them and I'm far more forgiving of them here than in other films. There were a few holes in recent blockbusters that bugged me after the film, none of the ones here have. Ion fact every time I think back over what I saw last night I remember the flying scene and chuckle. It was the stupidest thing I have ever seen yet it was also brilliant.

    I could go on and on about why I like the film but let's be honest, your post is one if those that's desperately trying to be witty and superior but much like the blockbusters you seem to despise there's nothing to it. It's the same tired and generic sniping that film snobs drag out over and over again. If enjoying F&F 6 means that I'm dumb then so be it. I'd rather have people look down on me and enjoy cinema than try to desperately appear above the average blockbuster by insulting those that like it. Now I'm off to watch Battle Beyond the Stars as the original Seven Samurai may be too intellectual for a dummy like me.

    Well sorry if you feel insulted by my opinion, but Im just calling it how I see it. When I sit through a film and every few mins and the holes in the movie are just jumping out and hitting me in the face I start to wonder just how low can things go, and what people are willing to accept and still write reviews lauding a piece of work that is really mindless.
    I sat through the whole thing so I am not totally elitist and snobbish :pac:, it entertained me to a degree like the other ones, but to read people going on about how good it is and its high quality, its just damning of the industry as a whole and the level of intelligence of the people who love it. All it means is things will get worse as the producers know they can fire any crap if theres some pretty faces and decent marketing behind it.

    Anyway the argument has been had before and will be had again. If you want to laud ridiculous crap Im going to call you out for it, same way as I will get called elitist and snobbish for my opinion. Thems the breaks


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,464 ✭✭✭e_e


    I dont think Im being elitist at all here.
    If you don't want to appear so then it'd be best advised not to start off calling everyone who disagrees a moron. Just saying.
    Im not asking for serious cinema, blockbusters are fine, but inviting the audience to revel in stupidty, I don't get that as an art form unless we are dealing with a comedy.
    Why can't a director have the freedom to be as outlandish as he wants to be? To me this film IS partly a comedy which is why I enjoyed it so much. The ending to the bridge scene in particularly cracked me up in a "can't believe this is happening but I'm actually really enjoying it" kind of way.
    Why can't they write something decent, and put proper stunts on instead of stuff so basic and ignorant and formulaic?
    What are "proper stunts"? This and Fast Five have some incredible practical stunt work.


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  • Posts: 2,822 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    e_e wrote: »
    If you don't want to appear so then it'd be best advised not to start off calling everyone who disagrees a moron. Just saying.



    Lol true

    Why can't a director have the freedom to be as outlandish as he wants to be? To me this film IS partly a comedy which is why I enjoyed it so much. The ending to the bridge scene in particularly cracked me up in a "can't believe this is happening but I'm actually really enjoying it" kind of way. [/QUOTE]

    Well the scene at the bridge had me thinking the opposite of you. Suddenly out of nowhere the guy is a super hero. I mean I know it is the age of comic book movies and zero realism, but come on the dude is not iron man. The comedy in that movie was I thought in some places was really just so forced with the lines from the smaller characters in the team. The only time I did think the movie was a comedy was that stunt at the end.
    What are "proper stunts"? This and Fast Five have some incredible practical stunt work.

    I guess this last scene just stayed in my mind in terms of the stunts. Oh and the one with the rock performing a similar aerial manouvere. Im sure there are plenty of practical stunts in there too, but these are what stand out.
    If you take the old jackie chan films, the stunts in his movies were seriously ridiculous, but incredible because he did them himself, you thinking as you see him do it, wow that guy is superhuman. How can a stunt be appreciated that is not real? Heavy CGI and such madness just takes all the 'awe' out of stunts.


  • Posts: 15,814 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Well sorry if you feel insulted by my opinion, but Im just calling it how I see it. When I sit through a film and every few mins and the holes in the movie are just jumping out and hitting me in the face I start to wonder just how low can things go, and what people are willing to accept and still write reviews lauding a piece of work that is really mindless.
    I sat through the whole thing so I am not totally elitist and snobbish :pac:, it entertained me to a degree like the other ones, but to read people going on about how good it is and its high quality, its just damning of the industry as a whole and the level of intelligence of the people who love it. All it means is things will get worse as the producers know they can fire any crap if theres some pretty faces and decent marketing behind it.

    Anyway the argument has been had before and will be had again. If you want to laud ridiculous crap Im going to call you out for it, same way as I will get called elitist and snobbish for my opinion. Thems the breaks

    So your not elitist but you repeatedly imply that anyone who enjoyed F&F 6 is a moron.

    If you think that F&F 6 is the worst type of blockbuster then really, you need to watch more of them. No one expects anything from the franchise beyond a little light entertainment. It's easy to digest trash that is superb at what it does. The script may not be up there with the greats but it's head and shoulders above mover major Hollywood blockbusters. You found the humour and one liners tiresome, I found them to be quite funny and the interaction (insults) between the characters were well done.

    The whole Hollywood is in trouble crap is just that crap. F&F 6 may make half a billion dollars world wide and that's no bad thing. The success of a film such as this means that the studio can invest in smaller, riskier pictures. Where do you think the money for Winter's Bone, After Earth, etc comes from? It's because these blockbusters are so successful that we get so many great indie and lower budget films each year.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,533 ✭✭✭don ramo


    fact is fast and furious delivers what it promises, unlike iron man and star trek who saturated the place in posters and advertising on every single corner, and both ended up being sub-par films,

    youve had 5 films so far in the F&F series, and to say you watched them all yourself and went to see part 6 and then go and calls others morons cause they enjoyed themselves :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:


  • Posts: 15,814 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    It's the flying Rock
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    You would have to be dead inside not to enjoy the ridiculousness of this moment.

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  • Posts: 2,822 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Yes I am dead inside!!!

    Did you know this year that 31 sequels and 17 remakes of previously filmed concepts are being released. So exciting!!!!!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,464 ✭✭✭e_e


    Yes I am dead inside!!!

    Did you know this year that 31 sequels and 17 remakes of previously filmed concepts are being released. So exciting!!!!!
    So that's the minority of films being made from all around the world, seems pretty fine to me. Especially when you take into account that there's a higher number of films being made than several decades ago.


  • Posts: 15,814 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Yes I am dead inside!!!

    Did you know this year that 31 sequels and 17 remakes of previously filmed concepts are being released. So exciting!!!!!

    Did you know that this year will see the release of 3 to 4 hundred film minimum that are not based on existing properties.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 30,893 CMod ✭✭✭✭johnny_ultimate


    Alright folks, enough of this argument and the generalised insults. Back on topic please!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 337 ✭✭Jacks Smirking Revenge


    Saw this last weekend. It was hilariously entertaining.

    "How'd you know there'd be a car there to break our fall?" :pac:

    Also Vin Diesel flying headbutts a guy. That should be enough to make anyone want to see this film.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 107 ✭✭TOPDAWG2.0


    Ive been to see this film twice now and loved it! It is just pure balls to wall OTT action from start to finish.
    Basically if youre watching this film and at any stage find yourself saying "well that could never happen" then get out of your seat and go home.

    Usually i judge how good a movie is by how little i move in my seat, if a movies poor then im restless, if its good i dont move but for this i was all over the place but in a good way and THAT cliffhanger had me shoot bolt upright in my seat! Even as a big Marvel fan that topped any cliffhanger Marvel have ever given us!!

    Love how this franchise has progressed along the way and isnt just a series of lame spin offs, each movie now connected to the other.

    Also the opening credits flashbacks...AWESOME!!!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 24,631 ✭✭✭✭Sleepy


    This was possibly the stupidest movie I've seen in years. And on the Sunday night after a long weekend that kicked off with my sister's wedding, it was exactly what I needed in a movie: stupid, over-the-top nonsense.

    The Fast and Furious franchise is never going to elevate itself beyond "guilty pleasure" genre imo: they're badly acted, badly scripted and many of the stunts ignore the constraints of real-world physics and that's fine by me. Are the WWE-like fight sequences or Vin Diesel leaping across a highway all that much more unbelievable than Mel Gibsons ability to chase down cars on foot in the Lethal Weapon series? I don't think it matters and will certainly be watching number seven.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,793 ✭✭✭FunLover18


    I watched this last night in preparation for 7.

    I just can't take these films seriously and no people are probably going to say "You're not meant to" but I disagree. The action is definitely OTT but the tone is nowhere near as tongue-in-cheek as it should be. And Justin Lin can do tongue-in-cheek, just watch Community; Modern Warfare, this is not it. All the talk of 'family' and revenge delivered with frowns and glares, these I have no problem with people watching them as light entertainment but I honestly don't think that's how they're intended and I don't know if that's Lin's fault or Morgan's but I really struggle with these films because the tone is all over the gaff and doesn't match up at all with the physics defying action in my book.

    Genuinely surprised Gal Godot didn't survive that tumble on the runway given the **** the rest of the characters managed to get through.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,563 ✭✭✭Adamantium


    Fast 4 was the first time me and my friend lay back in our seats in the cinema and arced our eyes at the ceiling and just repeated every so often "is it over?", but we couldn't bear to leave.

    It was too hot outside and not that much cooler in the cinema.


  • Administrators, Computer Games Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 32,616 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Mickeroo


    Adamantium wrote: »
    Fast 4 was the first time me and my friend lay back in our seats in the cinema and arced our eyes at the ceiling and just repeated every so often "is it over?", but we couldn't bear to leave.

    It was too hot outside and not that much cooler in the cinema.

    They didn't get good until the 5th one ;)

    Only got around to watching number 6 last week myself, enjoyable enough but didn't enjoy it like I did number 5, probably because number 5 was such a surprise.


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