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Named Driver Insurance in Deceased Driver Name

  • 12-06-2013 06:56PM
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 627 ✭✭✭


    Hi,
    Just want to know can I be put as a named driver under my fathers insurance, who is deceased? Is this possible/legal? Would the title of the driver have to be changed or something?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,770 ✭✭✭✭Anan1


    Without meaning to sound funny, dead people can't take out (or amend) insurance policies.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,242 ✭✭✭✭Eric Cartman


    this has to be one of the most tasteless insurance scams ive ever heard of. If its not a scam I would love more explanation.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,992 ✭✭✭bmwguy


    I'll give you the benefit here that its a genuine question, I looked at your posting history and you're a young lad of 16 or 17 and would not have had insurance before, to echo Anan1 the answer is definitely NO. Have a read of the principles of insurance in a school business studies book and you will realise why this is so. You just have to go through what we all did and pay high premium for a few years


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 627 ✭✭✭kerryked


    What I mean is could i be put as a named driver with the policy holder as "the estate of....."?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,770 ✭✭✭✭Anan1


    kerryked wrote: »
    What I mean is could i be put as a named driver with the policy holder as "the estate of....."?
    What person is going to take out the policy?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 627 ✭✭✭kerryked


    The current insurance on the car isnt up till October and I'll have a provisional next month...


  • Posts: 17,847 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    kerryked wrote: »
    Hi,
    Just want to know can I be put as a named driver under my fathers insurance, who is deceased? Is this possible/legal? Would the title of the driver have to be changed or something?

    No. The car owner must insure the car. A dead person cannot be insured.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,998 ✭✭✭✭mickdw


    kerryked wrote: »
    What I mean is could i be put as a named driver with the policy holder as "the estate of....."?

    On a car policy, the policy holder is assumed to be main driver with the named person a secondary driver.
    Are you claiming that the deceased is the main driver? If you are declaring yourself as the main driver, there would be no saving over having your own policy.
    Get your own policy.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,698 ✭✭✭tricky D


    From recent experience it's no problem when the death is in the current term of cover for the rest of that term. After that, obviously not cool.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,770 ✭✭✭✭Anan1


    kerryked wrote: »
    The current insurance on the car isnt up till October and I'll have a provisional next month...
    The only person in a position to put you on the policy is dead.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,242 ✭✭✭✭Eric Cartman


    kerryked wrote: »
    The current insurance on the car isnt up till October and I'll have a provisional next month...

    since a named driver must be the minority driver on a policy, and the policy holder is deceased there is no way you could legally be the minority driver of the car .

    Since the person is deceased, cancel the policy on the car as they cannot use it. Wait until you get your provisional and get a quote in your own name and keep it legal.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 274 ✭✭Jordan537


    lol, has to be the funniest i have seen, surely OP your not serious?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,730 ✭✭✭✭corktina


    I'd suggest that a Motor Policy would cease to be on the death of a policyholder. I'm sure the Ins Co would refund the remaining premium on being informed that the PH is deceased, whih of course ahs to be done as a "change of circumstance"

    Sorry for your loss BTW


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 890 ✭✭✭dh0011


    Jordan537 wrote: »
    lol, has to be the funniest i have seen, surely OP your not serious?

    OP's father could have passed away recently so I think this comment is a bit stupid.

    OP you wont be able to take out a new policy in the name of someone who has died. If you are on an existing policy with the main driver being deceased you should tell the insurance company as you may not be covered anymore.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 274 ✭✭Jordan537


    dh0011 wrote: »
    I think this comment is a bit stupid.

    Thanks for your opinion man, brightened my day no end


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,234 ✭✭✭mgbgt1978


    dh0011 wrote: »
    If you are on an existing policy with the main driver being deceased you should tell the insurance company as you may not be covered anymore.

    OP has already told us that he won't have a provisional licence until next month....

    ....I think we can deduce from this fact that the OP is NOT on an existing policy.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 890 ✭✭✭dh0011


    he may have held one previously


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,234 ✭✭✭mgbgt1978


    ^^^Have a look at post #4.
    And if he had one previously why won't he have another one until next month...is there a special waiting period for some people ????


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 890 ✭✭✭dh0011


    He could have lost his licence, it might have expired and he might not be able to renew it for a while.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,234 ✭✭✭mgbgt1978


    Or he could be sixteen years old at present (as he has already stated on boards...and again have a look at post #4).
    dh0011 wrote: »
    OP you wont be able to take out a new policy in the name of someone who has died. If you are on an existing policy with the main driver being deceased you should tell the insurance company as you may not be covered anymore.

    He never mentioned taking out a new policy.
    He never mentioned being a named driver on an existing policy.
    What he asked was quite simple...could he now be added to an existing policy as a named driver despite the fact that the policy holder has passed away while this policy is in force.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 627 ✭✭✭kerryked


    mgbgt1978 wrote: »
    What he asked was quite simple...could he now be added to an existing policy as a named driver despite the fact that the policy holder has passed away while this policy is in force.


    This is basically my question...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,234 ✭✭✭mgbgt1978


    To be honest KerryKed the answer is probably NO.
    The car now technically belongs to the Executor of your Father's Will (even though it is probably not specifically in the Will) until such time as the car is sold or bequeathed to somebody.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,242 ✭✭✭✭Eric Cartman


    kerryked wrote: »
    This is basically my question...

    and the answer to that question is simply no.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 444 ✭✭PVincent


    Not such a silly query tbh. Under a policy of insurance when the policyholder passes away , automatically the policy will transfer into the name of The executors of the Late xxxxxxxx. So the first thing you need to do here is get that info to the insurance co either directly or via the broker . The info will have to come from the executor as legally that person is the only person who may act on behalf of the late policyholder. At the same time the executor can enquire if additional drivers can be added . (Provided the executor is happy that the car, which is part of the estate, can be used by you). You may of course have the usual difficulties that 17 yr old prov licences holders face when it comes to Insurance . Generally the policy can not be changed into any other persons name until the estate is settled. Hope this helps.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,063 ✭✭✭✭coylemj


    PVincent wrote: »
    Not such a silly query tbh. Under a policy of insurance when the policyholder passes away , automatically the policy will transfer into the name of The executors of the Late xxxxxxxx.

    That may apply in the case of property insurance covering fire and public liability by which I mean that if Mr. X died today and his house goes up in flames tomorrow, I doubt if the insurance company would refuse his widow a claim based on the fact that the policyholder had died.

    In the case of a motor policy, the policy would surely cease on the death of the policyholder.

    Would the death of the policyholder not be a notifiable event as far as the insurance company is concerned?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 444 ✭✭PVincent


    I'm afraid you are wrong. Just because a policyholder dies does not mean a motor policy lapses. Insurance companies have no authority to just cancel a policy . My previous post is correct


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,063 ✭✭✭✭coylemj


    PVincent wrote: »
    I'm afraid you are wrong. Just because a policyholder dies does not mean a motor policy lapses. Insurance companies have no authority to just cancel a policy . My previous post is correct

    An insurance company is well within it's rights to cancel a policy, if, for example there is a material change to the risk profile of the people covered under the policy.

    In the OP's case nobody mentioned anyone 'cancelling' a policy, what I'm saying is that the policy would 'lapse'.

    The insurance policy in this case was a contract between the OP's father and the insurance company whereby the insurance company agreed to indemnify the 'insured' (the OP's father) in the event of damage (to property) or injury (to life and limb) caused by the negligent use of the vehicle.

    Given that the the 'insured' has now died, the obligations of the insurance company to him have ceased so effectively the policy has lapsed.

    In the normal course of events, the 'insured' is the principal driver of the vehicle, how you do propose a policy can continue when the 'principal driver' is dead?



    Update your car insurance

    If you were a named driver on your partner’s car insurance policy, it’s very important to check whether you’re still covered. Most policies terminate on the death of the main policy holder and will leave you uninsured.

    https://www.moneyadviceservice.org.uk/en/articles/reviewing-your-insurance-after-a-bereavement


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,871 ✭✭✭✭MugMugs


    tricky D wrote: »
    From recent experience it's no problem when the death is in the current term of cover for the rest of that term. After that, obviously not cool.

    This sums it up. Insurers generally don't cancel upon death of the policyholder.Its generally allowed run its term.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,730 ✭✭✭✭corktina


    how can it when the policyholder is supposed to be the main driver? Any other driver on the policy would by default become the main driver and the policy would be void.


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,990 ✭✭✭mathepac


    MugMugs wrote: »
    This sums it up. Insurers generally don't cancel upon death of the policyholder.Its generally allowed run its term.
    That does not reflect my experiences having acted as executor a couple of time where cars & car insurances were involved. The policies automatically lapsed on the death of the policyholders and refunds were issued to the estates. No named drivers involved in either case.

    In OP's case it's not relevant anyway as they are not currently named on the policy.

    OP, my condolences on your loss.


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