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Would you buy a stolen bike?

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,801 ✭✭✭Ruudi_Mentari


    I'm in the round for a nice cut price bike right now, any takers!

    In all honesty though you don't want irate dad circling the block a couple if hundred times for you, nevermind gutted son. It is a big deal to them


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 676 ✭✭✭Dietsquirt


    Again i just want to clarify that i'm not 100% the bike(s) is/are stolen, i'm just presuming. A lot of mixed opinions here but seems most people think i should tell him to F off.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,057 ✭✭✭irish bloke


    So you're afraid your nice bike is gonna get stolen so you're thinking about buying a stolen bike ?

    If you do buy it you will be putting money into a scumbags pocket and encouraging him to go and steal more stuff from hard working people who pay their own way though life. Basically funding the reason you're afraid to leave your bike in town.

    You would be both a scumbag and an idiot as far as I can see.

    Get a grip for god's sake....
    Scumbag and idiot.. Talk about an over reaction.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,339 ✭✭✭Artful_Badger


    Get a grip for god's sake....
    Scumbag and idiot.. Talk about an over reaction.

    Its not an overreaction its common sense. He talking about paying some scummer for stealing a bike because he's afraid some scummer will steal his bike.

    Sounds idiotic to me.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,057 ✭✭✭irish bloke


    Dietsquirt wrote: »
    Again i just want to clarify that i'm not 100% the bike(s) is/are stolen, i'm just presuming. A lot of mixed opinions here but seems most people think i should tell him to F off.

    If you really worried about it (which you sound like you are), then ask him are they stolen.
    If he says no then buy it, if he says yes then don't..,


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 676 ✭✭✭Dietsquirt


    So you're afraid your nice bike is gonna get stolen so you're thinking about buying a stolen bike ?

    If you do buy it you will be putting money into a scumbags pocket and encouraging him to go and steal more stuff from hard working people who pay their own way though life. Basically funding the reason you're afraid to leave your bike in town.

    You would be both a scumbag and an idiot as far as I can see.

    Please read my post again, i'm guessing the bike is stolen, i wanted to spend max €100 on a bike (any bike!), if it does get stolen i'll only be out of pocket 100 as opposed to 800.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 797 ✭✭✭Dwork


    Dietsquirt wrote: »
    Again i just want to clarify that i'm not 100% the bike(s) is/are stolen, i'm just presuming. A lot of mixed opinions here but seems most people think i should tell him to F off.
    Those bikes were built to be ridden, they have no owner, they just exist to roll. You can't steal freedom, it belongs to the world, and a bike is freedom. Go get your bike, soldier. or stop whinging on the 'net about your moral dilemmas, personally, I'd buy the bike. I'd consider it my reward for all the stuff that's been robbed off me. What goes around comes around. This is your turn to get one in before someone robs your racer.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,339 ✭✭✭Artful_Badger


    Dietsquirt wrote: »
    Please read my post again, i'm guessing the bike is stolen, i wanted to spend max €100 on a bike (any bike!), if it does get stolen i'll only be out of pocket 100 as opposed to 800.

    I think we are all operating on the presumption of the bike being stolen here because you started a thread about buying stolen bikes.

    Look it, its upto you to decide if your gonna do it. You asked fr opinions and I gave mine. If you give money to a scummer for doing his scummer work then you are by proxy a scummer in my book. And paying the guys causing the problem you have in the first place doesnt sound like much of a solution to me.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 797 ✭✭✭Dwork


    I think we are all operating on the presumption of the bike being stolen here because you started a thread about buying stolen bikes.

    Look it, its upto you to decide if your gonna do it. You asked fr opinions and I gave mine. If you give money to a scummer for doing his scummer work then you are by proxy a scummer in my book. And paying the guys causing the problem you have in the first place doesnt sound like much of a solution to me.
    Scummers have to live as well. If there were no scummers, there'd be no bike-lock shops, no Gardai, no Eircom Homewatch, no Bouncers and no locksmiths. I think we all need to give thanks for scummers. Scummers create a HELL of a lot of work for a lot of people. I for one am grateful for scummers. Just think how much unemployment there'd be without scummers.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 734 ✭✭✭Tom_Cruise


    Can you send me on the details sounds like a good deal


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,522 ✭✭✭kona


    Dietsquirt wrote: »
    Hi,

    Just to preface this post, i own a decent enough racer bike which i spent €800 on.

    I'm looking for a 2nd hand/cheap bike that i can use to cycle in to the City Centre (Dublin) and not be afraid to leave locked up. I have a very good lock (kryptonite) but i still wouldn't leave my racer bike in town.

    Blah blah blah...

    I sent an email around my job last week and inquiring if anyone had a bike lying around their sheds that they'd want to offload (for a cheap enough price)

    1 guy, who i don't really know said he can get me one for €100, that was really the maximum i was willing to pay. I asked him the make/model etc.. He showed me a few pictures and they look like fairly newish bikes (all Treks). I asked him where he gets them and he said he knows a guy who gets a few in every week.

    They must be stolen.

    Am i a scumbag for paying €100 for one of these bikes? They are a great bargain and lets face it, if they are stolen, the person isn't getting it back.

    What would you do?
    If you buy that I hope you get both stolen.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 676 ✭✭✭Dietsquirt


    kona wrote: »
    If you buy that I hope you get both stolen.

    Liam Neeson would come get me.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,494 ✭✭✭The_Gatsby


    I've got a friend in college who lives in inner city Dublin. He knows people who do the whole bike robbing thing and apparently most of the stolen bikes are ones left in apartment building stairwells, unlocked. The young lads just wait for someone to open the door, walk in and walk out with the bike.

    It's likely that these stolen bikes were left out by utter idiots who didn't value them enough to lock them up in the first place. Not that I'm advocating the purchase of stolen goods of course


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 591 ✭✭✭spankysue


    I wouldn't buy a stolen bike OP but I'd download one if I could :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 399 ✭✭IceFjoem


    I'm curious as to whether there's a website where victims of bike theft can post up pictures and maybe the serial numbers of their frames so that people can crosscheck bikes before buying them, and even alert the owners. With the poweful means of communication these days it's something owners and genuine buyers could almost police themselves. If not there should be IMO. F*ck the scumbags!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,339 ✭✭✭Artful_Badger


    Dwork wrote: »
    Scummers have to live as well. If there were no scummers, there'd be no bike-lock shops, no Gardai, no Eircom Homewatch, no Bouncers and no locksmiths. I think we all need to give thanks for scummers. Scummers create a HELL of a lot of work for a lot of people. I for one am grateful for scummers. Just think how much unemployment there'd be without scummers.

    No what they do is redirect time and energy that could be spent on things of benefit into trying to stop them from wrecking things for everyone else. They wont get no thanks from me, only scorn, disdain and the occasional inaudible insult if I see them out and about.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 725 ✭✭✭Keep_Her_Lit


    Dietsquirt wrote: »
    Am i a scumbag for paying €100 for one of these bikes?
    If your gut feeling is that the bike is stolen and you go ahead and purchase anyway, then yes, without a doubt.
    lets face it, if they are stolen, the person isn't getting it back.
    Don't be so sure. Unless the bike was stolen a long way from where you intend to use it, you never know when the rightful owner might be waiting for you when you stroll back to "your" bike someday.

    Look, in all probability you're going to take the easiest, cheapest path, regardless of any opinions you read here. And in the bigger scheme of things it won't make much difference. But just remember that decision the next time you get screwed over by some selfish pr1ck or somebody helps themselves to the contents of your other half's bag/wallet or breaks into your parents' home. The way you feel on such an occasion is probably the way the rightful owner of your bicycle felt the day it was stolen from them, to be sold to someone like you.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,672 ✭✭✭Peetrik


    Buying a bike you know is stolen makes you a selfish ar$ehole, you are well aware of this already OP, you wouldn't have asked otherwise.

    Stop looking for reasons to justify it to yourself. If you do it, your a díckhead. End of.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,234 ✭✭✭✭Cee-Jay-Cee


    Tell him to get you a bike then when he produces the bike take the serial number (it's stamped in to bottom bracket/pedal spindle) and tell him your ringing the guards to check it hasn't been stolen. When your dodgey work mate gets all nervous and making excuses offer him €20 and tell him you'll pay him next week...then don't.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 121 ✭✭birchtree


    My old rust affected bike got stolen from Drumcondra Rd. last night, from a front of a pub, in front of security camera.
    Will I spend €400 or more on a new bike? No.
    Will I buy a stolen bike for €50 or less? Yes.
    When you're strapped for money, it's that simple.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 990 ✭✭✭Peanut2011


    Tough call morally, but the bikes are already stolen, and your decision to buy or not buy won't effect this guy continuing to steal bikes... hmmmmmmmmm, you're saving the environment too.......

    I would say the only reason they are stealing them is cos there are people like OP out there who would buy them so saying that is not really true.

    I personally would not, there are plenty of bikes you can get in shops for that money anyway.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 393 ✭✭godwin


    Yeah , I lived in Holland for 13 years and bought stolen bike of Junkies regularly.

    Would have no problem doing it here.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,272 ✭✭✭Henlars67


    I have a bike worth around €800 as well which is fairly cheap for a racing bike but it was all I could afford. I do a lot of cycling and if it were to be stolen I would be devastated as at the moment there is no way I would be able to replace it.

    So no, I would never ever buy a bike I suspected to be stolen.

    It seems that a lot of bike thieves have no idea of the value of the bikes they steal.
    I know somebody who was offered a carbon framed Fuji Gran Fondo for €400. To buy one of those new would cost between 3 and 4k.

    He said he was tempted but decided against in the end but didn't report the person selling it either. Not sure if I'd report someone selling something I thought to be stolen either.
    It is undoubtedly the right thing to do, but don't think I could be a grass.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,386 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    If this is even a question for someone, they need to take a long look in the mirror.

    Many worry about Artificial Intelligence. I worry far more about Organic Idiocy.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,147 ✭✭✭PizzamanIRL


    Why not buy it? It's stolen now. By not buying it, the victim won't get it back. By buying it, the victim still won't get it back but you'll save some money. If it's stolen, then every euro is profit to him so offer him 80.

    If your consicience is holding you back, just remember you're not certain that they're stolen.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,033 ✭✭✭✭Richard Hillman


    I bought a stolen bike a good few years ago. I was drunk at the time and gave yer man about 30 quid for it. I never cycled around due the fact that I did not know where it was stolen from and I could have rode by the original owner. The bike basically went to waste and rust away in my back garden.

    Not the silliest thing I have ever done drunk but a lesson learned.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,527 ✭✭✭✭Darkglasses


    Peetrik wrote: »
    Buying a bike you know is stolen makes you a selfish ar$ehole, you are well aware of this already OP, you wouldn't have asked otherwise.

    Stop looking for reasons to justify it to yourself. If you do it, your a díckhead. End of.

    Couldn't have said it better myself tbh.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,059 ✭✭✭WilyCoyote


    No. Can't cycle.


  • Posts: 26,920 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Someone once told me that you can buy bikes from a Garda station for cheap. I know at one point there was some form of an online auction shop. Does anyone know if it's true? The person said that the majority of the bikes that are stolen dont get returned to their owners, so after a mandatory period that they have to keep them, they are left there.

    Probably not true at all, of course.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,272 ✭✭✭Henlars67


    Someone once told me that you can buy bikes from a Garda station for cheap. I know at one point there was some form of an online auction shop. Does anyone know if it's true? The person said that the majority of the bikes that are stolen dont get returned to their owners, so after a mandatory period that they have to keep them, they are left there.

    Probably not true at all, of course.

    Ya, recovered stolen bikes who aren't claimed back by their owners are auctioned off every so often.


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