Rangers FC On Field Gossip & Rumour Thread 2017 Mod Note in OP(Updated 14/08)

Eirebear · 29-04-2013 08:35PM

BhoscaCapall wrote: »

Police seem to know where the danger's at anyway :P

Glasgow Polis in "Getting it wrong" shocker" :P

Jelle1880 · 29-04-2013 08:36PM

Must be those detachable seats they recently installed at Firhill :pac:

Eirebear · 29-04-2013 08:37PM

Jelle1880 wrote: »

Tims threatening to unfollow their own club's official twitter page.
Their crime ? Calling us Rangers

Just had a look at the page myself, it's quite funny as since half time the tweeter has failed to mention just what team the "young celts are trailing" to.

Sometimes i despair at just how petty Scottish football can be.

blahfckingblah · 29-04-2013 08:58PM

86 A pause in proceedings as a Rangers player requires treatment.

don't assume everyone is that petty

Jelle1880 · 29-04-2013 09:02PM

FT 3-2, the Glasgow Cup back at it's rightful place

Eirebear · 29-04-2013 09:08PM

blahfckingblah wrote: »

86 A pause in proceedings as a Rangers player requires treatment.

don't assume everyone is that petty

I think they changed tweeter

Jelle1880 wrote: »

FT 3-2, the Glasgow Cup back at it's rightful place

The guy i mentioned earlier is saying it's absolutely ridiculous, from both sides, up there.
Got to say i find it a little depressing.

Jelle1880 · 29-04-2013 09:16PM

All I saw was one tweet saying Rangers fans were trying to get at the Celtic fans, but that was quickly debunked.

So far it's only a certain part of the ground that has broken seats in it, nothing bad from the Rangers fans.

Broxi_Bear_Eire · 29-04-2013 09:19PM

Jelle1880 wrote: »

All I saw was one tweet saying Rangers fans were trying to get at the Celtic fans, but that was quickly debunked.

So far it's only a certain part of the ground that has broken seats in it, nothing bad from the Rangers fans.

From what I am reading there was also racist chanting at Junior Ogen.
I really despair of the morons on both sides

blahfckingblah · 29-04-2013 09:24PM

imagine whats its gonna be like when the glasgow derby is back... in firhill

Eirebear · 29-04-2013 09:26PM

blahfckingblah wrote: »

imagine whats its gonna be like when the glasgow derby is back... in firhill

Depends really, they'll have to get those seats fixed on time.

blahfckingblah · 29-04-2013 09:27PM

Eirebear wrote: »

Depends really, they'll have to get those seats fixed on time.

maybe these two space cadets might fix them

Eirebear · 29-04-2013 09:30PM

blahfckingblah wrote: »

maybe these two space cadets might fix them

Obviously, thats where they're running to. :pac:

BhoscaCapall · 29-04-2013 09:33PM

Seems like a nice bit of pyro from both sets of fans. Shame about the neds but I suppose this is the perfect game for them.

lubo_moravcik · 29-04-2013 09:36PM

Jelle1880 wrote: »

Yeah, try and turn it around in a personal attack on me, it's what you do best it seems. :rolleyes:
Me and the other Rangers fans on here have already mentioned time and time again that the song has no place in any football ground, so I don't know why you decided to bring it up again.

For what it's worth: I don't believe for a second you're actually offended, but if you want to pretend you are then go ahead.
And if you really are offended then I refer to the Stephen Fry quote.

And don't even think about turning Jock Stein into some martyr who is abused by all Bears, I still haven't forgotten the vile accusations aimed by one of your fellow fans on here towards Bill Struth and William Wilton.

edit: And it's of course always good to see the old claim of 'Ah, but what the Celtic fans sing is just banter' pop up again, seems like that's the easy way out isn't it ?

Is that the 2 went out, one came back stuff? What is the actual deal with that anyway??

Lennonist · 30-04-2013 10:29AM

Broxi_Bear_Eire wrote: »

Nonsense it was me that answered him and I made it clear by my answer I wasn't getting into it. Once again we had one of you bring it up on our thread do so could start your rubbish.

As for the comment that Brazil said Stein wasn't involved that's one hell of a jump from knowing. Just check the court records.
I have also said it was different times then and no good could come from digging deeper. But as I said at the start instead of ignoring these idiots in BF1 he had to have a go

You say you're not getting into it but then you go on to comment on it anyway. You say you disagree with the crowd singing BJK chants, but then you say check the court records..

The first Jock Stein heard about the paedophile Torbett he literally kicked him out the door. He was abhorred and disgusted as most decent people would be by what he heard. How the hell would he know how to handle such a situation, he wasn't trained to deal with such depraved carry on, he was disgusted by it. He didn't know anything about it, 'til it came to light and then he kicked him out the door and that was before any investigations were heard on the case. He had passed on by the time Torbett faced charges. The BJK carry on from sections of rival supporters is a disgusting and entirely disingenuous slur on Jock Stein's good name, and you are being disingenuous about it yourself. There has been alleged abuse scandals involved with Rangers FC I believe as well, it is not something to be used in banter or point scoring between rival fans in my view.

Broxi_Bear_Eire · 30-04-2013 10:34AM

Lennonist wrote: »

You say you're not getting into it but then you go on to comment on it anyway. You say you disagree with the crowd singing BJK chants, but then you say check the court records..

The first Jock Stein heard about the paedophile Torbett he literally kicked him out the door. He was abhorred and disgusted as most decent people would be by what he heard. How the hell would he know how to handle such a situation, he wasn't trained to deal with such depraved carry on, he was disgusted by it. He didn't know anything about it, 'til it came to light and then he kicked him out the door and that was before any investigations were heard on the case. He had passed on by the time Torbett faced charges. The BJK carry on from sections of rival supporters is a disgusting and entirely disingenuous slur on Jock Stein's good name, and you are being disingenuous about it yourself. There has been alleged abuse scandals involved with Rangers FC I believe as well, it is not something to be used in banter or point scoring between rival fans in my view.

Really I am not getting into this again I have made my feelings clear on the song.

Lennonist · 30-04-2013 10:47AM

Broxi_Bear_Eire wrote: »

Really I am not getting into this again I have made my feelings clear on the song.

That's true, but why are you saying go check the court records as if there is something hanging over the good name of Jock Stein. Let me ask you a straight question; in your view is there a shadow hanging over the good name of Jock Stein due to the abuse scandal at Celtic Boys Club in the 1970's?

Dempsey · 30-04-2013 10:49AM

Broxi_Bear_Eire wrote: »

Really I am not getting into this again I have made my feelings clear on the song.

The funny thing is, the video was brought up to ask about the singing of another song and what it meant but ye all jumped on the BJK part.

Broxi_Bear_Eire · 30-04-2013 10:52AM

Lennonist wrote: »

That's true, but why are you saying go check the court records as if there is something hanging over the good name of Jock Stein. Let me ask you a straight question; in your view is there a shadow hanging over the good name of Jock Stein due to the abuse scandal at Celtic Boys Club in the 1970's?

No because revelations didn't come out until long after then. Lets be frank here even though I am a Bear I was 14 when Celtic started the nine in a row and won the EC he was a hero to me in many ways. There is nothing hanging over him because it was a totally different time and things were dealt with differently.

While I am on have you anything to say about the Tic fans singing about the Ibrox disaster last nigh

Jelle1880 · 30-04-2013 10:53AM

Just banter.

Lennonist · 30-04-2013 10:56AM

Broxi_Bear_Eire wrote: »

No because revelations didn't come out until long after then. Lets be frank here even though I am a Bear I was 14 when Celtic started the nine in a row and won the EC he was a hero to me in many ways. There is nothing hanging over him because it was a totally different time and things were dealt with differently.

Fair enough, we'll leave it that then.

Broxi_Bear_Eire wrote: »

While I am on have you anything to say about the Tic fans singing about the Ibrox disaster last nigh

You mean some neds who call themselves Celtic fans? It's totally out of order, and they are not wanted by Celtic FC and all decent Celtic fans.

Broxi_Bear_Eire · 30-04-2013 11:00AM

Lennonist wrote: »

Fair enough, we'll leave it that then.

You mean some neds who call themselves Celtic fans? It's totally out of order, and they are not wanted by Celtic FC and all decent Celtic fans.

Thank you because I feel the same as the vast majority of Rangers fans we don't want the group that attach themselves to our club

lubo_moravcik · 30-04-2013 11:07AM

When we all going out for a pint???

Broxi_Bear_Eire · 30-04-2013 11:09AM

lubo_moravcik wrote: »

When we all going out for a pint???

I am down in Dublin at the end of July if that is any good

BhoscaCapall · 30-04-2013 11:45AM

Lennonist wrote: »

You mean some neds who call themselves Celtic fans?

Sorry, not having this. Those idiots were Celtic fans, just like when Rangers fans sing about the Famine or BJK they are Rangers fans.

Too much of this hand washing going on in football, whenever fans do anything that embarrasses the club people pretend they're not actual fans - like the Newcastle or Millwall fans rioting the other week. We don't have to make excuses for a handful of morons at a Youth game when Ibrox disaster songs are nowhere to be heard in Parkhead any week of the year.

Lennonist · 30-04-2013 11:55AM

BhoscaCapall wrote: »

Sorry, not having this. Those idiots were Celtic fans, just like when Rangers fans sing about the Famine or BJK they are Rangers fans.

Too much of this hand washing going on in football, whenever fans do anything that embarrasses the club people pretend they're not actual fans - like the Newcastle or Millwall fans rioting the other week. We don't have to make excuses for a handful of morons at a Youth game when Ibrox disaster songs are nowhere to be heard in Parkhead any week of the year.

Celtic fans who are neds so, whatever way you want to put it. There's no hand washing involved. Those involved at the youth game last night should be identified and banned if possible.

Lonesome Boatman · 30-04-2013 07:57PM

Lennonist wrote: »

Celtic fans who are neds so, whatever way you want to put it. There's no hand washing involved. Those involved at the youth game last night should be identified and banned if possible.

Before id call for people to banned id want to know where this info has come from, Ive spoke to people who were there last night and heard no Ibrox disaster songs. I'll believe them before the word of a Rangers fan on here with previous for saying the Green Brigade carried knives to a FAC demo.

Broxi_Bear_Eire · 30-04-2013 08:56PM

Lonesome Boatman wrote: »

Before id call for people to banned id want to know where this info has come from, Ive spoke to people who were there last night and heard no Ibrox disaster songs. I'll believe them before the word of a Rangers fan on here with previous for saying the Green Brigade carried knives to a FAC demo.

Well it was two Celtic fans that told me so you can disbelieve them as well.
Oh and they didn't have an IRAoke either seeing as you refuse to believe anything bad about your fans

Lonesome Boatman · 30-04-2013 09:06PM

Broxi_Bear_Eire wrote: »

Well it was two Celtic fans that told me so you can disbelieve them as well

I will.

Your casuals were out in force causing trouble and battering anything with the color green, you threw a flare at a school boy goal keeper and invaded the pitch, chanted sick songs about child abuse and the billy boys. I think your using the fictional chant as a deflection for your own fans behavior.

Its easy to jump on a moral high ground isn't it?

IRAoke? strange term for an Irish person to use for songs about the history of Ireland? Are the sash and Derrys walls acceptable songs about battles in the history of Ireland? Nothing wrong with Irish folk songs.

Jelle1880 · 30-04-2013 09:09PM

Lonesome Boatman wrote: »

I will.

Your casuals were out in force causing trouble and battering anything with the color green, you threw a flare at a school boy goal keeper and invaded the pitch, chanted sick songs about child abuse and the billy boys. I think your using the fictional chant as a deflection for your own fans behavior.

Its easy to jump on a moral high ground isn't it?

Weren't you the one calling a large part of the Rangers fans fascists ?
Feel free to put up proof about casuals fighting though, or the songs.

2 kids on the pitch and some flares, yes that is absolutely horrible behaviour :pac:

Rangers FC On Field Gossip & Rumour Thread 2017 Mod Note in OP(Updated 14/08)

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