Do you agree with The All Homophobes are secretly Gay theory

dd972 · 26-04-2013 12:51PM #1

Whilst no doubt there are Homophobes who are Gay, I've always thought that this theory is overtly simplistic and smacks of pseudo Freudian pop psychology, just because an individual has an ignorance and fear of the other in society, it's doesn't necessarily mean that they are the other.

Unless you can scan people's thoughts, minds and bodies how would you really know their motivations and impulses to behave in any manner.

Uriel. · 26-04-2013 12:53PM

No

EuskalHerria · 26-04-2013 12:54PM

Some are just backwards and homophobic. Next question?

eoin2nc · 26-04-2013 12:54PM

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tin79 · 26-04-2013 12:54PM

I stopped reading at Pseudo Freudian pop psyhchology. . .

m5ex9oqjawdg2i · 26-04-2013 12:55PM

Why am I here...

Uriel. · 26-04-2013 12:55PM

tin79 wrote: »

I stopped reading at Pseudo Freudian pop psyhchology. . .

Pop quiz hotshot....

.??

Lucena · 26-04-2013 12:56PM

Next week's debate:

"Do people who hate broccoli secretly love broccoli?"

EDDIE WATERS · 26-04-2013 12:57PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=23ND3FKlT_k

efb · 26-04-2013 12:58PM

No. Some are just bigots.

TeddyTedson · 26-04-2013 12:59PM

We're all bisexual so hardly.

Fluorescence · 26-04-2013 01:00PM

I always thought it was tossed out as a way to wind up the homophobe in question tbh

Latchy · 26-04-2013 01:00PM

Indifferent !

EuskalHerria · 26-04-2013 01:00PM

A short documentary on the subject. 2 minutes 23 of high brow debate.

http://youtu.be/_G9ta7AHsIU

Lord TSC · 26-04-2013 01:00PM

Does the logic thus follow that "All racists are of a different race than the one they identify themselves as?"

Or that "All dogs are actually cats?"

Shenshen · 26-04-2013 01:02PM

Not necessarily, I think they're just overly fascinated with what goes on in other people's bedrooms.

Everybody needs a fetish, I guess.

tin79 · 26-04-2013 01:03PM

Uriel. wrote: »

Pop quiz hotshot....

.??

Stopped reading at pop this time. Getting better. One more post should do it.

who_me · 26-04-2013 01:05PM

No, people are just threatened by others who are different. Thus it's always been, thus it'll always be.

Links234 · 26-04-2013 01:05PM

dd972 wrote: »

Whilst no doubt there are Homophobes who are Gay, I've always thought that this theory is overtly simplistic and smacks of pseudo Freudian pop psychology, just because an individual has an ignorance and fear of the other in society, it's doesn't necessarily mean that they are the other.

Unless you can scan people's thoughts, minds and bodies how would you really know their motivations and impulses to behave in any manner.

Yet again and again and again it gets proven to be an extremely accurate observation: http://www.gaystarnews.com/article/%E2%80%98ex-gay%E2%80%99-leader-says-sorry-harm-caused-he%E2%80%99s-still-gay250413

sure, it's certainly broad strokes here, but you can pretty much guarantee that when someone's quite vocally anti-gay, it turns out they were secretly gay. Ted Haggard and George Rekers for example, the latter was pretty much the father of reparative "therapy" and he's off cavorting with rentboys.

Oh yeah, and recently, there's also this guy

http://news.yahoo.com/study-homophobes-may-secretly-gay-themselves-030425307.html

sbsquarepants · 26-04-2013 01:05PM

No. It's a bullshít theory. All momophobes are not secretly gay, though i suppose some might be.
What they are is secretly obviously assholes.

Dedit: Eh, i mean homophobes - i'm not sure why anyone wouldn't like moms!!

rayne10 · 26-04-2013 01:11PM

No I don't agree with that
I am probably going to get attacked cause i wont be able to word this correctly but I have two or three gay friends, love them,happy for them and support them etc etc and see no reason why they cant marry each other and would be very upset and angry if i knew they were getting bullied or anyone hurt them because they are gay as they are the nicest people
....however I wont go to a gay club , i went once or twice and wasnt comfortable there, i hated the atmosphere and it was just creepy to me, I myself was just uncomfortable, everyone can wear what they want of course but every woman there was dressed like a man, they were saying snide things under their breath about me as i clearly stood out as 'a straight' woman wearing a dress and heels and had one deliberately trying to annoy me to , i dont mean to offend anyone but i could never be attracted to a girl, so if anyone said I was a closet homosexual because i cant understand the attraction to girls and dont like seeing their affection or hearing about their experiences I would be pretty annoyed for a generalization , thats just my opinion!

tin79 · 26-04-2013 01:15PM

sbsquarepants wrote: »

No. It's a bullshít theory. All momophobes are not secretly gay, though i suppose some might be.
What they are is secretly obviously assholes

Your Mom doesnt scare me buddy.

Remmy · 26-04-2013 01:22PM

No most are just not very intelligent and fear things that are different.

kylith · 26-04-2013 01:25PM

I don't think they're all gay, but I think that a significant number probably are.

Latchy · 26-04-2013 01:25PM

Remmy wrote: »

No most are just not very intelligent and fear things that are different.

Which could be applied right across the board to include nationality, race, religion etc as much as gender /what way he or she swings .

Boom__Boom · 26-04-2013 01:27PM

I do find it a bit odd that one of the most conservative Catholic politicians in the country is so resolutely single. #justsayin'

jam_mac_jam · 26-04-2013 01:28PM

I think there is some truth in it. Especially with the more rabid ones,why else would they care so much?

junior_apollo · 26-04-2013 01:30PM

rayne10 wrote: »

No I don't agree with that
I am probably going to get attacked cause i wont be able to word this correctly but I have two or three gay friends, love them,happy for them and support them etc etc and see no reason why they cant marry each other and would be very upset and angry if i knew they were getting bullied or anyone hurt them because they are gay as they are the nicest people
....however I wont go to a gay club , i went once or twice and wasnt comfortable there, i hated the atmosphere and it was just creepy to me, I myself was just uncomfortable, everyone can wear what they want of course but every woman there was dressed like a man, they were saying snide things under their breath about me as i clearly stood out as 'a straight' woman wearing a dress and heels and had one deliberately trying to annoy me to , i dont mean to offend anyone but i could never be attracted to a girl, so if anyone said I was a closet homosexual because i cant understand the attraction to girls and dont like seeing their affection or hearing about their experiences I would be pretty annoyed for a generalization , thats just my opinion!

So tell us more about your relationship with your mother...

jam_mac_jam · 26-04-2013 01:31PM

rayne10 wrote: »

No I don't agree with that
I am probably going to get attacked cause i wont be able to word this correctly but I have two or three gay friends, love them,happy for them and support them etc etc and see no reason why they cant marry each other and would be very upset and angry if i knew they were getting bullied or anyone hurt them because they are gay as they are the nicest people
....however I wont go to a gay club , i went once or twice and wasnt comfortable there, i hated the atmosphere and it was just creepy to me, I myself was just uncomfortable, everyone can wear what they want of course but every woman there was dressed like a man, they were saying snide things under their breath about me as i clearly stood out as 'a straight' woman wearing a dress and heels and had one deliberately trying to annoy me to , i dont mean to offend anyone but i could never be attracted to a girl, so if anyone said I was a closet homosexual because i cant understand the attraction to girls and dont like seeing their affection or hearing about their experiences I would be pretty annoyed for a generalization , thats just my opinion!

I don't think you are a homophobe though because you didnt like a gay club.

jaffacakesyum · 26-04-2013 01:32PM

It's pretty simple really - some homophobes are secretly gay, some aren't.

I certainly had a bit of internalised homophobia before I got comfortable with my bisexuality.

Sauve · 26-04-2013 01:33PM

Boom__Boom wrote: »

I do find it a bit odd that one of the most conservative Catholic politicians in the country is so resolutely single. #justsayin'

It may surprise you to hear that a lot of single people are single by choice. Doesn't mean you're gay, not by a long shot.

Do you agree with The All Homophobes are secretly Gay theory

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