Farming Chit Chat II

bob charles · 20-04-2013 10:30PM

Muckit wrote: »

so does your's have no springs or not bob?

It has 7 leaf ifor williams marked springs, I was saying hudson trailers are now built by this crowd in the UK http://www.indespension.co.uk AFAIK

Muckit · 20-04-2013 10:41PM

bob charles wrote: »

It has 7 leaf ifor williams marked springs, I was saying hudson trailers are now built by this crowd in the UK http://www.indespension.co.uk AFAIK

Yes I know. They don't use springs, they have they're own suspension, so was wondering if new hudsons will have no springs. I've a Aerlite trailer with indepension suspension and think it's a good job

bob charles · 20-04-2013 10:49PM

Muckit wrote: »

Yes I know. They don't use springs, they have they're own suspension, so was wondering if new hudsons will have no springs. I've a Aerlite trailer with indepension suspension and think it's a good job

what do they use? any pictures, I see Houghton are doing the dogs bollix of a cattle trailer for 10k sterling if your interested http://www.houghtons.com/en/products/live-stock-transport/platinum/platinum-t35-lifting-deck-transporter/

Muckit · 20-04-2013 11:29PM

bob charles wrote: »

what do they use? any pictures, I see Houghton are doing the dogs bollix of a cattle trailer for 10k sterling if your interested http://www.houghtons.com/en/products/live-stock-transport/platinum/platinum-t35-lifting-deck-transporter/[/QUOTE]

torsion axle I think they're called. Now kinda talkin out of my hole, it's only on smaller trailers, bigger trailers have springs.

Those houghtons look very American lookin. I'd say you'd have to sell a few body parts to pay for them

Muckit · 20-04-2013 11:32PM

come up this side Bob and buy a 14' one of these. You won't be disappointed

http://www.aerlite.com/

mf240 · 20-04-2013 11:43PM

Can you get a sixteen foot cattle trailer for jeep?

simx · 20-04-2013 11:51PM

mf240 wrote: »

Can you get a sixteen foot cattle trailer for jeep?

Seen 1 once with a landrover defender pulling it, fair lump of a box

Damo810 · 21-04-2013 12:30AM

bob charles wrote: »

dont spend money on an old trailer as they can be a money pit. Keep your eyes on the net as there are a good few second hand trailers for sale that have done very little work. I bought a second hand one last year in June that was bought new in February, probably hadnt moved a half dozen loads. Cant understand how people do such things. have hudson's now as they take serious abuse, heard the new ones are being made under license by indepension so wont be having another if this is the case

The trailers in good nick other than the tires and the lights at the back, body and floor is like new. Only reason we even looked at trading is that it's a bit small if yer heading a few miles to the mart...

bbam · 21-04-2013 05:34AM

Raining again.
Feck it !

Bodacious · 21-04-2013 05:47AM

bbam wrote: »

Raining again.
Feck it !

place is saturated.. cows out of the good grass again!:rolleyes:

Chisler2 · 21-04-2013 07:25AM

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bob charles wrote: »

all the estimates are still running very high and there is a serious withdrawal of funds from the market at present. aslong as it puts cheaper grain in my yard it doesnt worry me[/QUOTE

Well I hope your grain is affordable this year Bob. In Iowa the farmers killed or sold off their cows and dismantled their silos over the past few years as they could not afford to feed them. That effected the last stroke in the cornbelt becoming 'monoculture'. A farmer friend has reintroduced 'a few hens' in response to pressure from his kids who have seen the place go from 'a farm' to a wasteland.

Like you, I hope yields are high this year as I have an affection for 'oldfashioned' ideas such as feeling the achievement of successful relationship with the land and pride at the fruits of one's labour.

Rock Lesnar · 21-04-2013 07:57AM

I'm probably in the wrong place for this question but i'll give it a go

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i'm just wondering how long a farmer can leave dung lying in a field before he ploughs it into the ground, I'm told he should plough the day he spreads it, but a farmer in my ''locality'' left 2 piles in the field since the end of febuary and only got round to spreading half of it during last week, he still hasnt ploughed it and it has rained since then and with the ly of the field, it has left big pools of sh1tty smelly water around a house.

whelan1 · 21-04-2013 08:34AM

Rock Lesnar wrote: »

I'm probably in the wrong place for this question but i'll give it a go .

i'm just wondering how long a farmer can leave dung lying in a field before he ploughs it into the ground, I'm told he should plough the day he spreads it, but a farmer in my ''locality'' left 2 piles in the field since the end of febuary and only got round to spreading half of it during last week, he still hasnt ploughed it and it has rained since then and with the ly of the field, it has left big pools of sh1tty smelly water around a house.

dont think theres a problem this time of year, just cut the farmers some flack we are having the worst year ever

reilig · 21-04-2013 08:38AM

Rock Lesnar wrote: »

I'm probably in the wrong place for this question but i'll give it a go .

i'm just wondering how long a farmer can leave dung lying in a field before he ploughs it into the ground, I'm told he should plough the day he spreads it, but a farmer in my ''locality'' left 2 piles in the field since the end of febuary and only got round to spreading half of it during last week, he still hasnt ploughed it and it has rained since then and with the ly of the field, it has left big pools of sh1tty smelly water around a house.

No problem doing it between February and October. Farmers are having a tough year. Might be taking him some time to get around to it with all of the extra work. He doesn't necessarily have to plough it in - he can spread it on grass.

bob charles · 21-04-2013 08:43AM

Rock Lesnar wrote: »

I'm probably in the wrong place for this question but i'll give it a go .

i'm just wondering how long a farmer can leave dung lying in a field before he ploughs it into the ground, I'm told he should plough the day he spreads it, but a farmer in my ''locality'' left 2 piles in the field since the end of febuary and only got round to spreading half of it during last week, he still hasnt ploughed it and it has rained since then and with the ly of the field, it has left big pools of sh1tty smelly water around a house.

farmer can stock pile dung in a field between 15Jan and 1Nov. Dung does not have to be ploughed in once spread but he has to store/spread it under the code of good practice for farmers

mf240 · 21-04-2013 08:51AM

bob charles wrote: »

farmer can stock pile dung in a field between 15Jan and 1Nov. Dung does not have to be ploughed in once spread but he has to spread it under the code of good practice for farmers

As above. The( plough it the day he spreads it ) applies to poultry manure only,due to a risk of botulism.

Ordinary farm yard manure can even be applied to grassland that won't be ploughed at all.

Rock Lesnar · 21-04-2013 09:34AM

thanks for the above comments, i'm not having a go at all.

I was just wondering cos he cut the crop which was under plastic all summer in october and left the field idle, a couple of houses had quite a bit of flooding in the winter due to the dryness of the soil, and now they have have pools of dirty watery manure around their site, in fact one house down the road from me, who put new drainage pipes through his site to drain the water from the field had straw from the manure in it yesterday morning.

mf240 · 21-04-2013 09:54AM

Sounds like very bad planning on the part of whoever built houses in a hole. Not having a go thats just what it sounds like.

bbam · 21-04-2013 10:08AM

Typical.
Probably on top of his head, field not fit to travel to spread. Feckin constant rain causes a flood, hopefully the neighbouring houses will be sympathetic.
It's not like he's going out to cause them problems.

It's been a tough time all round.
Hopefully the pooled water will recede soon and all will be well againnn

bbam · 21-04-2013 10:11AM

Still not Much move on grass up Cavan way. Fields have greened but it's not moving.
We had frost Friday night and I see one or two nights on the forecast too.

Got 15% Lakeland beef but yesterday. €315 a tonne collected and paid on the nose, not cheap feeding.

pakalasa · 21-04-2013 10:21AM

Have to agree with Bob.I always thought Hudson were the best built of them all.
Muckit -Indespension employ a different type of suspension. To look at it, you would think there is no suspension there, but it'a torsion type that compresses a rubber block as it turns. Don't know if it's any better or not.
http://www.indespension.co.uk/Units-c/w-Hubs.html

I see Hudson on the Indspension webpage alright.
http://www.indespension.co.uk/brochures.html

moy83 · 21-04-2013 10:32AM

bob charles wrote: »

what do they use? any pictures, I see Houghton are doing the dogs bollix of a cattle trailer for 10k sterling if your interested http://www.houghtons.com/en/products/live-stock-transport/platinum/platinum-t35-lifting-deck-transporter/

A savage looking trailer , I might be able to afford one in ten years . Do Houghton have a good name for trailers ? I wonder how much longer they would outlast an ifor williams or hudson ?
For that money they would want to have something to justify the extra dust they are looking for .

Rock Lesnar · 21-04-2013 10:35AM

mf240 wrote: »

Sounds like very bad planning on the part of whoever built houses in a hole.

Well its not in a hole, its at the bottom of the field along a main road, and this is the 1st year its happened and they are there 13 years, their neighbours are there alot longer and this is the 1st time its happened them.

I'm sure everything will be sorted, like i said i'm not having a go at the farmer, it doesnt effect me, i was just wondering, cos one of them was talking about it at football yesterday.

bob charles · 21-04-2013 12:12PM

moy83 wrote: »

A savage looking trailer , I might be able to afford one in ten years . Do Houghton have a good name for trailers ? I wonder how much longer they would outlast an ifor williams or hudson ?
For that money they would want to have something to justify the extra dust they are looking for .

Houghton Parkhouse make allot of the larger artic trailers, with lifting decks, double decks etc. have a good name in the business

bob charles · 21-04-2013 12:16PM

pakalasa wrote: »

Have to agree with Bob.I always thought Hudson were the best built of them all.
Muckit -Indespension employ a different type of suspension. To look at it, you would think there is no suspension there, but it'a torsion type that compresses a rubber block as it turns. Don't know if it's any better or not.
http://www.indespension.co.uk/Units-c/w-Hubs.html

Yeah I dread to think how many cattle our older trailer has pulled, still in okay nick and would probably con someone out of 2.5k if I sold it:D, still works hard as the back up jeep trailer.

Was reading about those torsion springs and it commented they were very good aslong as you werent overloading. that rules them out so.

See the Houghon can be spec'ed with a hydraulic type brake, wonder what that is, and is it better that current system. Think manufactures should do a redesign on axles to make them more stable. Im not engineer but could the axles be further apart and something like a forced steer.

Bean_Flicker · 21-04-2013 02:36PM

http://www.donedeal.ie/for-sale/beefcattle/4902629

Would someone really pay this for an incalf heifer? :eek:

or are some people living in dreamland ?

reilig · 21-04-2013 02:52PM

Bean_Flicker wrote: »

http://www.donedeal.ie/for-sale/beefcattle/4902629

Would someone really pay this for an incalf heifer? :eek:

or are some people living in dreamland ?

This time last year maybe. But she would be down 500 euro at this stage.

Bean_Flicker · 21-04-2013 03:03PM

reilig wrote: »

This time last year maybe. But she would be down 500 euro at this stage.

Yes, I'd def say she is worth €1500 alright max, but given the current situation this year €2000 as a asking price is shocking :eek:

Muckit · 21-04-2013 05:42PM

mf240 wrote: »

Can you get a sixteen foot cattle trailer for jeep?

there was a right clean second hand one on donedeal a few days ago with high roof for horses. Wasn't spoilt either I thought at €3500

moy83 · 21-04-2013 05:55PM

Muckit wrote: »

there was a right clean second hand one on donedeal a few days ago with high roof for horses. Wasn't spoilt either I thought at €3500

It would be a quare pull behind the jeep though

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