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No to council house..... Reason: No room for trampoline

  • 18-04-2013 11:35AM
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,602 ✭✭✭


    Yes you read the headline correct, a family in Cork refuse council house because the garden wouldn't fit a trampoline.

    I really hate this entitlement country.
    A FAMILY on the social housing waiting list refused an offer of a council home because there wasn’t enough space for a trampoline, a Cork County Council official has said.
    During a heated debate on social housing waiting lists in County Hall, the reasons why applicants refuse offers of council homes were outlined by frustrated council officials.
    The discussion took place amid claims that many on the official waiting lists don’t actually want a council house, but were merely on the lists so they could receive Rent Allowance for private accommodation.
    Officials, at a meeting of the Southern Area Committee of the local authority, refused to accept criticism of the long delays in allocating houses by pointing to a high level of refusals by people on the 7,023-strong waiting list in Cork county.
    Senior Executive Officer in the council’s housing department, Karina Cremin, said offers of homes were often refused because of a lack of garden space, adding that one applicant specifically cited a lack of space for a trampoline in their refusal reasons.
    The council’s director of services, Mary Ryan, said 60 offers were made on a group of houses and apartments at Fernwood in Glanmire in the past three months, but 26 of these were refused by applicants on the waiting lists.
    Glanmire councillor Noel Costello said he was stunned by the high level of refusals on what he described as high quality accommodation.
    Ms Ryan said the procedure for allocating homes was too cumbersome and insisted the refusal rate was delaying the allocation of houses to people with real need.
    However, a local Fine Gael councillor, Veronica Neville, who has been campaigner for improvements to the local authority housing stock, accused council officials of smirking at “legitimate reasons” for refusing an offer of a home.
    Cllr Neville said a family could legitimately refuse a home on the basis that there was no space for their child to take part in a hobby such as trampolining. She said a garden was a very important part of a home for many families with young children.
    “We are talking about very human things here. This is not just a house, it’s a place for them to live too,” she said.
    Councillors and officials both acknowledged that many people on the social housing waiting lists were “not interested” in getting a council house.
    This is because people need to be on the lists to receive social welfare Rent Allowance towards the cost of private accommodation, which many would prefer over a council home.
    Labour councillor John Mulvihill said: “I know people who have gone on the housing list but they don’t want a house. They only want Rent Allowance.”
    An assessment of housing could potential halve the numbers in “real need” of housing, the council officials said.

    http://www.eveningecho.ie/2013/04/17/family-refuse-council-house-because-no-room-for-childrens-trampoline/


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Comments

  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,273 ✭✭✭EuskalHerria


    What do you suggest they do with the trampoline then?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,972 ✭✭✭orestes


    That's frigging ridiculous, cheeky bastards. They shoulda been told to go and jump.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 378 ✭✭Catphish


    I saw that article. They should be taken off the housing list. They either want to be housed or they don't.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,486 ✭✭✭✭VinLieger


    Should be a maximum amount of refusals allowed


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    VinLieger wrote: »
    Should be a maximum amount of refusals allowed

    There is you can refuse 3 offers


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43,038 ✭✭✭✭SEPT 23 1989


    A trampoline is for life, not just for Christmas


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,623 ✭✭✭✭My name is URL


    What do you suggest they do with the trampoline then?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,135 ✭✭✭jhegarty


    Am I the only one hopping mad about this one ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,602 ✭✭✭joe316


    I suppose we can be grateful that their kids werent into sailing.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    Its a feffing shame that's this is allowed to carry on


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,753 ✭✭✭davet82


    I haven't heard a solution for the trampoline situation yet in all fairness to them...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    davet82 wrote: »
    I haven't heard a solution for the trampoline situation yet in all fairness to them...

    Bin the the stupid thing


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,486 ✭✭✭✭VinLieger


    davet82 wrote: »
    I haven't heard a solution for the trampoline situation yet in all fairness to them...

    Put it on the roof


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,753 ✭✭✭davet82


    A trampoline is for life, not just for Christmas
    Gatling wrote: »
    Bin the the stupid thing

    see above...

    you disgust me :mad:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,745 ✭✭✭✭kylith


    You accept the house your give, unless it's deficient in bedrooms, or you get taken off the list and lose your rent allowance. Simple.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 31,119 ✭✭✭✭snubbleste


    A family on a low income invested hugely in a trampoline, something they are now in deep negative equity over.
    Then the Council come along and attempt to force them to abandon their precious trampoline. It's a disgrace.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,161 ✭✭✭frag420


    orestes wrote: »
    That's frigging ridiculous, cheeky bastards. They shoulda been told to go and jump.

    Thats the problem, they want to but there just aint the room for it!!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,273 ✭✭✭EuskalHerria


    Lets not JUMP to any conclusions. This family might not want to be BOUNCED around. Life has plenty of UPS and DOWNS but the family may have been right not to LEAP into things.

    So most of the puns out of the way, it's disgusting that they rejected this house if that was the sole reason.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,952 ✭✭✭aujopimur


    Some UK LA's have a better system, they advertise vacant houses for which you can apply.
    To qualify'you're allocated points for various needs and requirements.
    The applicent with the most points is gived the house.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,264 ✭✭✭✭jester77


    Wow, great to see this family has its priorities and that a trampoline is more important than a house over their heads. They should be removed from the list, they are obviously not that badly in need of a house.

    Here in Germany they would be made sell the trampoline and any other assets of worth they have before they would be considered for handouts.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,753 ✭✭✭davet82


    anybody else in favour of giving them a car?

    just thought I'd throw that out there :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,962 ✭✭✭✭dark crystal


    kylith wrote: »
    You accept the house your give, unless it's deficient in bedrooms, or you get taken off the list and lose your rent allowance. Simple.

    I would agree with this. However, I would also understand someone refusing a house in a bad area (high crime, boarded up houses etc.) because this is somewhere you're going to have to bring up a family for a long time to come.

    Once they house you, it's virtually impossible to move anywhere else unless you have the money to rent privately or buy elsewhere.

    The trampoline excuse is utterly ridiculous, though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 596 ✭✭✭Tigerbaby


    who knows? maybe they have aspirations to greater things? a deck, a pool maybe?

    at least with the trampoline they will be upwardly mobile...:D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,161 ✭✭✭frag420


    davet82 wrote: »
    anybody else in favour of giving them a car?

    just thought I'd throw that out there :D

    And where do you suggest they put the trampoline when living in the car eh??


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 235 ✭✭Trudiha


    Yeah, poor people, they should live in caves and be grateful. What makes them think that their kids should have a 10X10 garden to play in, if those children are allowed to become physically fit, they might never accept the minimum wage jobs that we need to keep our economy afloat.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 649 ✭✭✭crusher000


    I also know a carpenter that works on contract for the co-operation and council. If a family are un happy with the fittings when offered a new house they are all replaced even though the kitchen and units maybe only a month or two old. Now I don't expect anyone to move into a mouldy house but where units aren't fallen off the wall or a danger they shouldn't be replaced.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 193 ✭✭mirekb


    How much does the average council houses cost the council per tenant as compared to rent alliance per tenant in private rental? I would imagine rent allowance would be cheaper as the landlords foot the costs of maintenance?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,753 ✭✭✭davet82


    frag420 wrote: »
    And where do you suggest they put the trampoline when living in the car eh??

    No, no, no another house AND a car...

    a couple of tickets to Disney world wouldn't go a miss either :o


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 66 ✭✭KuriousOranj


    aujopimur wrote: »
    Some UK LA's have a better system, they advertise vacant houses for which you can apply.
    To qualify'you're allocated points for various needs and requirements.
    The applicent with the most points is gived the house.

    Yes the UK scheme in which LA's are forcing people to leave their communities is a far better scheme.

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/2012/nov/04/london-boroughs-housing-families-outside-capital


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,434 ✭✭✭whomitconcerns


    erm and what about all the people who pay through the nose for their own homes and haven't got gardens for trampolines? This is a crap reason and they should be taken off list


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