Love or money?

WoollyRedHat · 14-04-2013 07:24PM

Ideally, both, a job I love and that pays decently, so that I'm not on the breadline every month and asking for some more soup.

I don't want to slave away to a detestable, rigid system for the rest of my human system, I'd like to work at something that fulfills me. As do most.

pragmatic1 · 14-04-2013 07:50PM

Odelay wrote: »

PM sent;)

I was more thinking along the lines of killing people for money.

DazMarz · 14-04-2013 08:08PM

While I'd love to have a job that I'd love, I'd prefer to work a job that gave me little to no satisfaction but allowed me to live a life of luxury. Your job is only for 8 hours a day, 5 days a week. The rest of the time, you can spend enjoying the life that your job makes for you.

Also, if it's a good job with good pay, there's usually plenty of benefits (healthcare, company car, travel expenses, etc.) and potentially a good pension waiting in the wings for afterwards.

Compare that to a job that makes you lovely and happy, but you're struggling to make ends meet. I don't think so. I don't think it works at all.

af_thefragile · 14-04-2013 08:15PM

Job I love.

But looks like my life is taking a turn for the latter. I don't think I'm that fond of the field I'm getting into but its good money and a decent lifestyle so I'm going along with it... Maybe I'll eventually start to love my job as well or maybe I'll be able to sometime be able to do the things I love...

0ph0rce0 · 14-04-2013 08:17PM

LOVE For Me

Cause i'll never have any money in this ****é hole of a country.

No point dreaming.

Czarcasm · 14-04-2013 08:37PM

Having been on both sides OP I'd have to say doing a job you love, because you'll do a job you love a lot longer than a job you're only doing because it pays well.

Doing a job you love is in the long term better for your mental health than doing a job you hate only for the money.

Doing the job you hate will wear you down mentally and physically and you won't be able to function outside of your job, and there's no amount of money makes up for that.

There were days in my job where I was earning a fcukload of money that I wished for simpler times when I was back shovelling shìt for a living. The money was great, but the stress was just as great.

Nowadays I have somewhat the best of both worlds- I'm self employed doing what I love, and the money is a secondary concern, and then I also do voluntary work which, obviously I don't get paid for, but helping and mentoring other people to fulfil their potential is something I'm very passionate about, and seeing others fulfil their potential- that's something money can't buy!

NuckingFacker · 14-04-2013 08:44PM

I get paid to do what I'd be doing if I didn't get paid, if you see what I mean. I.E I get up and mess around with stuff that interests me pretty much on my own terms. If I get bored I mess around with some other stuff that interests me.

Never paid a jot of attention to money, never done a damn thing ever just because of money, it would be the last thing that would motivate me to get out of bed. Also never had a "job" as such. Not poor by any stretch of the imagination. I think you are best off doing somthing you really love, the money usually follows if you are actually very good at what you do. Upside is you then get paid a lot to do your hobby. A job you dislike is soul-destroying and life is too short for that shyte. Do what you love.

cosbloodymick · 14-04-2013 08:54PM

HOW TO GET RICH

Rule number 1 = Do something you love.
Rule Number 2 = Make your hobby your career.

af_thefragile · 14-04-2013 08:54PM

cosbloodymick wrote: »

HOW TO GET RICH

Rule number 1 = Do something you love.
Rule Number 2 = Make your hobby your career.

Rule 3: Or die tryin' yo!

Capt'n Midnight · 14-04-2013 09:17PM

In response to the original question

I believe that sex is the most beautiful, natural, and wholesome thing that money can buy.
- Steve Martin

aaronjumper · 14-04-2013 09:20PM

Money. You could put it toward activities!
All the stuff I would do if I was rich. I would buy something fast and take it to a deserted area. For a start.

donegal_road · 14-04-2013 09:31PM

I posted this a couple of months back on a similar thread. Just in case anyone hasn't seen it, Id urge you to watch this video. It directly answers the OP's question and is very well articulated. The voice is of Alan Watts, the British philosopher.

'What if money didnt matter'

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jgmf0xTwsgE

April O Neill · 14-04-2013 09:36PM

pragmatic1 wrote: »

Money. There's very little I wouldn't do to earn a few euro.

WHORE!

:pac:

McChubbin · 14-04-2013 09:39PM

I'll take the money, Chris.

April O Neill · 14-04-2013 09:58PM

wolfpawnat wrote: »

A job that I like and enough moola to get by. I am not into brand name clothes, big cars and all that so doesn't interest me.

Me neither. I'd still rather have money. It buys a level of freedom.

Gorilla Rising · 14-04-2013 10:14PM

I think the OP is a little flawed.

The question asked is a job you love whereby you could barely pay the bills or and 'alright job' that gives you a comfortable lifestyle.

Obviously, anyone would rather have an alright job (which means to me they get some level of satisfaction from it) and a comfortable lifestyle.

However, I would much rather barely pay the bills with a job I love than one I hate with a comfortable lifestyle.

With the job you love you'll learn to adapt to a comfortable enough lifestyle (by your own standards).

I've done jobs I absolutely hate and it's soul destroying. It really affected my life outside work also.

I reckon some people will be trying to convince themselves they're in the right job as they're comfortable and can travel etc. It's just easier that way than striving to do what you love.

NuckingFacker · 14-04-2013 10:20PM

April O Neill wrote: »

Me neither. I'd still rather have money. It buys a level of freedom.

Which is a myth. One of the freest people I know does very little paid work. He travvels constantly, has seen the world and done amazing stuff, stuff people dream of doing, yet he's done it on a shoestring. Money buys responsibility and stuff to be reponsible for and people to be responsible for. And it's a drug. There is no "enough". "Enough" is never, ever enough.

razorgil · 14-04-2013 10:29PM

either way, you'll come home after 5 every evening, enjoy the family, listen to the kids regale you of their days in school, kiss the missus, watch some telly, and go to bed. i don't really give a shít what i have to do before 5, once i can enjoy what comes after 5. if the job is a bit shíttiér, but pays more, thats a bonus. then the weekends are full(er) of fun.

af_thefragile · 14-04-2013 10:33PM

NuckingFacker wrote: »

Which is a myth. One of the freest people I know does very little paid work. He travvels constantly, has seen the world and done amazing stuff, stuff people dream of doing, yet he's done it on a shoestring. Money buys responsibility and stuff to be reponsible for and people to be responsible for. And it's a drug. There is no "enough". "Enough" is never, ever enough.

But owning a nice BMW or Porsche would give a nice feeling...

April O Neill · 14-04-2013 10:36PM

NuckingFacker wrote: »

Which is a myth.

For the most part, it's not. That person you know is an exception. Very little paying work, and still manages to travel the world?

Trebor176 · 14-04-2013 11:24PM

It has to be money, doesn't it? The way things are now, a job should be considered a job, I guess. Bills and that have to be paid, etc. Though, it's not an easy task for a good few, sadly. It's great to have a job that you absolutely love, but a well paid one is a bonus!

Captain Chaos · 14-04-2013 11:27PM

Deleted User wrote: »

There's 128 hours in a week. I work 35 hours a week

And sleep 40-50 hours per week, doesn't leave much time.

wolfpawnat · 15-04-2013 05:22AM

April O Neill wrote: »

Me neither. I'd still rather have money. It buys a level of freedom.

As long as I knew no bill could come in the door and I would be groaning wondering what would be put off paying for another while to cover it, I would be happy really. You have enough to live then.

NuckingFacker wrote: »

Which is a myth.

But lets be honest, we all would like to see if that is true

I do think the thing with money, greed does take over after a while and there is no such thing as enough. If I ever win a hundred million or so in the Euromillions, I'll let you all know :pac::D

NuckingFacker · 15-04-2013 08:52PM

If you have money, some other crap just jumps in to fill the void poverty used to fill. Somtimes, cobbling it together with peanuts is more fun. Better to be winging it at what you love than flamishing at somthing you hate.

amacca · 15-04-2013 09:06PM

ruaille buaille wrote: »

So would u rather have a job that u absolutely love doing but just barely pays the bills OR a job thats only alright but u have a pretty comfortable lifestyle.

Neither.....I'd rather have a person I loved and one that loved me backin a romantic/life partner etc sense, I'd be prepared to wade through any amount of sh1t this world had to throw at me for that and so would most people I suspect....if such a thing were possible.......

Czarcasm · 15-04-2013 09:07PM

wolfpawnat wrote: »

But lets be honest, we all would like to see if that is true I do think the thing with money, greed does take over after a while and there is no such thing as enough. If I ever win a hundred million or so in the Euromillions, I'll let you all know :pac::D

Some interesting stories here of previous Euromillions winners-

http://www.euro-millions.org/category/stories/

Legs.Eleven · 15-04-2013 09:16PM

donegal_road wrote: »

I posted this a couple of months back on a similar thread. Just in case anyone hasn't seen it, Id urge you to watch this video. It directly answers the OP's question and is very well articulated. The voice is of Alan Watts, the British philosopher.

'What if money didnt matter'

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jgmf0xTwsgE

I saw this video, liked it, brought it into work for my students and none of them liked it and made me see sense. I got swept away by the music and images, I think and I might've bee drunk watching it. Money does matter as most of us are not rich. You can't do what you want as money will always restrict you, unless you're rich. It's a very privileged point-of-view. Try playing that video to people in the third world. This is the advice he gave to university graduates who are in a more privileged position than 90% of the world (or there abouts). "You do that and forget about the money". Am I missing something here? How does that work? He's talking about career advice, isn't he? Bills have to be paid, food put on the table etc.

If he's talking hypothetical here, grand...but at the end he's not. We're supposed to take his advice.

Most people can't be anything they want to be or even make money out of their interest or their hobby, only the very privileged (in relation to the rest of the world) can. I think he's talking out of his arse tbh or perhaps I've no imagination?

Capt'n Midnight · 15-04-2013 09:21PM

Some movieland examples of what happens
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/MoneyDearBoy

Steve Buscemi will not turn down a high-paying role. When asked about his appearance in Armageddon, he replied, "I wanted a bigger house."

Michael Caine said of Jaws IV: "I have never seen it, but by all accounts it is terrible. However, I have seen the house it built, and it is terrific."

John Cusack has gone on record as stating that he'll take just about any well-paying gig he's offered, because it lets him finance the small indie projects that are his true artistic love.

Sir Alec Guinness as Obi-Wan Kenobi in Star Wars. His contract for 2% of the film's gross over a base salary was one of the most lucrative film deals ever made

Lance Henriksen has admitted to taking some less-than-stellar roles for the money because he owed alimony to his ex-wife.
That said, he is undeniably one of those actors and when he is good, such as in Millennium, he is very good.

Ben Kingsley has been in many bad films: BloodRayne, Species, Thunderbirds, The Love Guru and A Sound Of Thunder. His excuse? His children have gotten used to eating.

The fantasy flop Eragon boasted the likes of Jeremy Irons, Robert Carlyle, John Malkovich, and Djimon Hounsou. They couldn't save it, and they didn't try, either.

Any film made by Uwe Boll. He might not be much of a creative talent, but he reportedly pays well:

Similary, Alfred Hitchcock was once quoted as saying, "If [an actor] asks me, 'What's my motivation?', I reply, 'Your salary.'"

wolfpawnat · 15-04-2013 09:26PM

Czarcasm wrote: »

Some interesting stories here of previous Euromillions winners-

http://www.euro-millions.org/category/stories/

Winning the lotto apparently lowers your life expectancy! :eek:

phoenix0250 · 15-04-2013 09:43PM

I would chose something that I love instead of a job that pays more. In my humble opinion, there is hardly any point in doing what you dislike for money, so then you can spend that money on doing something that you love. Instead just do something that you love, bypassing this need to do something you hate in order to be happy. Of course, the job that you love should at least be able to provide you with the basic needs, food, shelter etc., the rest, don't really matter.

Naive as it may be, that's just me.

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