Homeowner cautioned after theft

barneygumble99 · 11-04-2013 03:30PM #1

http://www.kilkennypeople.ie/news/local/homeowner-cautioned-after-traveller-robbed-his-home-1-4983151

So next time you're being robbed, maybe go out and give them a hand :rolleyes:

11-04-2013 03:32PM

Shoulda kept the beating in his house instead of chasing, I suppose

listermint · 11-04-2013 03:34PM

bluewolf wrote: »

Shoulda kept the beating in his house instead of chasing, I suppose

Sounds like he caught him and there was beating in two directions. Just one came off the better.

Law on the criminals side ?

--Kaiser-- · 11-04-2013 03:35PM

I'll echo one of the comments on that site

It's only in Ireland where a newspaper could run two stories with one saying there is to be no charges against a man who stabbed another to death because he was trying to gatecrash a party and another where a man is cautioned by gardai and can end up in court for giving a thief a few well deserved slaps.

antodeco · 11-04-2013 03:36PM

I take it this didnt happen on his property?

HondaSami · 11-04-2013 03:36PM

He did chase after him and assaulted him, he may deserve it but still it's not right either. He had left the garden and the home owner was in no danger.

Seachmall · 11-04-2013 03:37PM

listermint wrote: »

Law on the criminals side ?

Technically he chased a man into a public location and assaulted a man.

Next time he should drag him back into the house and shoot him. That way the law is on his side.

listermint · 11-04-2013 03:37PM

HondaSami wrote: »

He did chase after him and assaulted him, he may deserve it but still it's not right either. He had left the garden and the home owner was in no danger.

Says he chased after and detained him and phoned the guards.

Doesnt say he assaulted him. You made that part up.

ColeTrain · 11-04-2013 03:38PM

It's funny how biased that article is, it's like the homeowners brother wrote it.

Not that I disagree with what the man did.

crockholm · 11-04-2013 03:38PM

I suppose,if you're going to travel,best to have a little extra diesel

tayto lover · 11-04-2013 03:38PM

Like the Pauric Nally case they are deemed to be posing no threat when fleeing.
Having said that I would probably have done the same thing.
I asked a garda about this some time ago and he told me that they only pose a threat that you can act on if they keep coming towards you. Then you can defend yourself.

listermint · 11-04-2013 03:39PM

Seachmall wrote: »

Technically he chased a man into a public location and assaulted a man.

Next time he should drag him back into the house and shoot him. That way the law is on his side.

Is detention of a criminal caught in the act assault ?

Id be interested to see the legislation on that.

If the criminal violently assaulted the accused here, then would he be at painds to defend himself?

--Kaiser-- · 11-04-2013 03:39PM

HondaSami wrote: »

He did chase after him and assaulted him, he may deserve it but still it's not right either. He had left the garden and the home owner was in no danger.

He was doing the state a favour by helping to apprehend a criminal. He didn't assault him, there was an altercation, meaning there were slaps thrown on both sides

DarkJager · 11-04-2013 03:39PM

He would have been better off dragging the scumbag back to his property and beating him senseless there.

HondaSami · 11-04-2013 03:40PM

listermint wrote: »

Says he chased after and detained him and phoned the guards.

Doesnt say he assaulted him. You made that part up.

''There was an altercation as he tried to escape and the homeowner gave as good as he got.

The Traveller was subsequently brought to St Luke’s Hospital, Kilkenny where he received eight stitches''.

Why did he need stitches?

hatrickpatrick · 11-04-2013 03:41PM

F*ck this country. If he'd gone to court he'd have got a suspended sentence off Scott free and would have been back robbing someone else the next day.

It's sad when you have to advocate mob justic because you're country's justice system is completely and totally useless.

Jarrod · 11-04-2013 03:42PM

The article reads like it was written by a 6 year old.

'They sped off giving the poor pony a number of belts of a stick as they pulled away.'

whomitconcerns · 11-04-2013 03:42PM

sure its their culture :mad:

listermint · 11-04-2013 03:43PM

HondaSami wrote: »

Why did he need stitches?

Defending himself?

Does it say anything about assault ?

Yep didnt think so. As i said you made that part up.

Article needs witnesses not pure speculation. from you or me.

wilson10 · 11-04-2013 03:45PM

HondaSami wrote: »

He did chase after him and assaulted him, he may deserve it but still it's not right either. He had left the garden and the home owner was in no danger.

See how you feel about it when some scumbag empties your tank or ransacks your home and takes your valuables.

These people are a law unto themselves and this only goes to prove it when we have the "law" backing them up.

Ranicand · 11-04-2013 03:45PM

Seachmall wrote: »

Technically he chased a man into a public location and assaulted a man.

Next time he should drag him back into the house and shoot him. That way the law is on his side.

Shoot him beat him to a pulp with a baseball bat burn him get the defibrillator out get his heart going again and kill him again.:D

Being serious this scum was on a suspended sentence why?

The homeowner should have been given a medal not a caution.

Seachmall · 11-04-2013 03:46PM

listermint wrote: »

Is detention of a criminal caught in the act assault ?

I got held in the backroom of a nightclub before and when I asked the Gardaí about it they said it's perfectly legal to detain someone suspected of a crime.

Presumably there's a distinction somewhere, I was on the club's premises at the time so maybe that's it.

It's worth noting I didn't do anything wrong and was let go, it was a case of mistaken identity.

HondaSami · 11-04-2013 03:49PM

wilson10 wrote: »

These people are a law unto themselves and this only goes to prove it when we have the "law" backing them up.

I don't disagree with you but it's not just travellers who do this tbf. The law backing them up? you cannot just chase after someone and give them a beating or whatever happened.

m5ex9oqjawdg2i · 11-04-2013 03:49PM

I wonder how different this article would be if the culprit wasn't a traveler.

Bazzo · 11-04-2013 03:49PM

Nobody's gonna comment on the fact that their getaway vehicle was a sulky?

In what world did they think that was in any way under the radar?

gobnaitolunacy · 11-04-2013 03:51PM

Janiyah Lazy Top wrote: »

I wonder how different this article would be if the culprit wasn't a traveler.

They'd have a proper getaway vehicle.:D

markad1 · 11-04-2013 04:01PM

HondaSami wrote: »

Why did he need stitches?

He "fell" :rolleyes:

Remmy · 11-04-2013 04:05PM

I defy anyone to get through that without cringing at the writing style.

HondaSami · 11-04-2013 04:09PM

--Kaiser-- wrote: »

He was doing the state a favour by helping to apprehend a criminal. He didn't assault him, there was an altercation, meaning there were slaps thrown on both sides

You would not consider slaps thrown as assault?

listermint wrote: »

Defending himself?

Does it say anything about assault ?

Yep didnt think so. As i said you made that part up.

Article needs witnesses not pure speculation. from you or me.

I don't understand your aggression tbh.

vitani · 11-04-2013 04:13PM

While I'm on the homeowner's side in this one, the article is horribly written. 8 mentions of 'Traveller' and one of 'Travelling Community' in a short piece, compared to constant 'homeowner' and 'householder'.

Ryu Hayabusa · 11-04-2013 04:15PM

Sums up whats wrong with this country when travelers get away with everything

Homeowner cautioned after theft

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