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Fuses getting Hot

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  • #62
    Bruthal
    Closed Accounts Posts: 13,422 ✭✭✭✭Bruthal


    Andrew_Doran wrote: »
    Yes that's the way it is.

    The CER is recommending 3 years in jail plus a €15,000 fine as the maximum penalty for any work carried out by a non-REC. They are also pushing for no exemptions for the home owner, so no legal way for a competent and tooled up person to do any electrical work in their own home. :(

    Yes I can see it now. Shoot a fella in the street and get 3 years for manslaughter.

    Wire in a socket in your own hall, and get 3 years for the crime of being an electrician and wiring in a socket.

    I think Irish Steve put it well.


  • #63
    atkin
    Closed Accounts Posts: 342 ✭✭atkin


    Feck got an electrician to upgrade the fuse box 2 hours work Eu 300 .With such laws they can charge what they like.

    I could have done this job myself when I see what was done.


  • #64
    atkin
    Closed Accounts Posts: 342 ✭✭atkin


    mickger844posts wrote: »
    The particular fuse is feeding a double socket in the Kitchen and also two sockets in separate bedrooms upstairs. The one in the Kitchen runs the washing machine at times and also has an automatic outside light wired to it. The one in the bedroom runs my PC 24/7 which wouldn't be a huge load i would imagine. The fuse rating is 25A. I took out the fuse and it does have a burned look on the metal contact. Anything else i should be checking??

    The fuse is loose in the holder a cent piece and a new fuse can be put in as a temporary measure.You may even hear some sizzling as the metal contacts also need cleaning.A loose connection can cause it to go bang !!


  • #65
    Andrew_Doran
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 227 ✭✭Andrew_Doran


    Bruthal wrote: »
    Yes I can see it now. Shoot a fella in the street and get 3 years for manslaughter.

    Wire in a socket in your own hall, and get 3 years for the crime of being an electrician and wiring in a socket.

    I think Irish Steve put it well.

    The idea that someone who has served their time in a trade such as electrician, then being told that they can't apply it in their own home.. What a kick in the stones.

    If anyone feels strongly about this then I encourage you to write to your local TD and to minister Pat Rabbitte who is over the commission for energy regulation.

    Here is the decision from the CER:

    http://www.cer.ie/en/electricity-safety-current-consultations.aspx?article=2935a210-11a9-4d9a-b07c-ddc29eb28d4c

    The excuse for banning the home owner is because they believe that people will get unlicensed sparks in to do the work, then pay €300 for an inspection and then lie to an ECCSA/RECI inspector and say they did it themselves. :confused::confused:

    I am no electrician, but I grew up around 3 generations of EEng, electrician, radar technician, electronics technician, etc. I know my own limitations and the dangers more than most and I refuse to be treated as completely clueless by the government when it comes to something with a whiff of danger about it.

    All that said I do see the need to regulate paid for electrical work and to control DIY stuff, and from what I have seen RECs seem to be good value for money.

    My nightmare is that we end up with a law that means a well meaning DIYer is up for 3 years in jail just for doing a run of CAT5/CT100 in his/her own home, because well those are wires right? Wires are to do with electricity and they're in the wiring rules. Need a REC, end of.


  • #66
    dpw11104
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16 ✭dpw11104


    Drop that phase tester and come out with your hands up. People should be allowed do there own work in there own house as is done in the states, this is over the top .


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  • #67
    atkin
    Closed Accounts Posts: 342 ✭✭atkin


    MrMac84 wrote: »
    Ya it's a very technical name it's called a "gauge ring extractor tool".yes thats exactly how the tool was named on my list of tools in 2001 for FAS ha ha..

    Jasus will you give up on the coin in the fuse .The electrician that installed the new fuse box said it was no harm to put in a coin. What you need to look for after time is marks on the contacts in the fuse and holder.These will show wear where the contact is not good or you hear a sizzle and hum.Really it is a temporary measure.

    What about fitting a nice big THICK piece of wire when the fuse blows .


  • #68
    Irish Steve
    Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators Posts: 6,524 Mod ✭✭✭✭Irish Steve


    Thick wire is Soooooo old hat.

    Went to one place that was having problems with plug tops overheating. Took a few apart to see what was going on, and every 13 A fuse in the place had been replaced with a piece of solid steel bar. There were some thought provoking pieces of 2.5 solid wire in some of the fuse carriers too, the only thing that was providing any protection to the people in the place was the 63A main breaker, which fortunately couldn't be rewired.

    This was a small agricultural (literally and figuratively) engineering workshop in the middle of nowhere, on a long line single phase supply, with a substantial single to 3 phase convertor so they could run some 3 phase motors, and large mig welders and the like.

    that was a challenging site to do work for!

    Shore, if it was easy, everybody would be doin it.😁



  • #69
    atkin
    Closed Accounts Posts: 342 ✭✭atkin


    Just waiting to go BOOOOOM .
    Now thats hot stuff.
    Wonder when that place is due a rewire ?


  • #70
    Irish Steve
    Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators Posts: 6,524 Mod ✭✭✭✭Irish Steve


    atkin wrote: »
    Just waiting to go BOOOOOM .
    Now thats hot stuff.
    Wonder when that place is due a rewire ?

    Fortunately for all concerned, it was sold off a number of years ago, the old workshop was flattened, and a new facility built on the site, so the problem went away before it caused any more problems.

    To coin a phrase, "There are times when you wonder if answering the phone is the right thing to do". This site was certainly high on that list, I don't miss it at all.

    Shore, if it was easy, everybody would be doin it.😁



  • #71
    atkin
    Closed Accounts Posts: 342 ✭✭atkin


    I used to check fridges in an old meat factory. The control room was a night mare oil completely on the floor ,obstacles ,open fuse boards because they tripped all the time saved opening the doors he he .The first night I went in there a fan blew off the wall I had to duck . Who said Mad Max was fiction


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  • #72
    Irish Steve
    Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators Posts: 6,524 Mod ✭✭✭✭Irish Steve


    atkin wrote: »
    I used to check fridges in an old meat factory. The control room was a night mare oil completely on the floor ,obstacles ,open fuse boards because they tripped all the time saved opening the doors he he .The first night I went in there a fan blew off the wall I had to duck . Who said Mad Max was fiction

    Shall we call them memories, nightmares, or experiences that hopefully won't be repeated any time soon.

    The way things were was certainly "interesting", and I'm sure if we started a thread about "life moulding moments", there would probably be some very thought provoking incidents recalled.

    Then again, we have enough trouble with CER wanting to make it harder to do anything, if we were to give them even more excuses for adding to the regulatory load, that might not go down too well.

    Time to go and get some sleep, before we end up with a complete short circuit here,:D:D:D

    Shore, if it was easy, everybody would be doin it.😁



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