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Not accepting a homosexual as a roommate. Discrimination/Homophobic?

  • 06-03-2013 06:34PM
    #1
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 448 ✭✭tunedout


    I got in trouble on another forum about this but I think the opinion may have been a bit biased there. Basically, there was a story of a lad who got turned down from moving into an apartment because he text them and told them he was a homosexual.

    Now everyone on the website was saying it was discrimination and homophobic etc.

    I gave my opinion that I wouldn't be comfortable living with a homosexual , and not allowing a homosexual live with you was no more discrimination than a group of girls looking for a girl only to move in. Or a bunch of young people, looking for a young person to move in.

    A bunch of straight people looking for a straight person to move in, I see no difference.

    So maybe there would be a less biased opinion here, do you think it is discrimination and homophobic to not leave someone who is homosexual move in with you?


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  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 20,369 Mod ✭✭✭✭RacoonQueen


    It's not discrimination. If you wouldn't be comfortable living with them why should you let them move in?


  • Posts: 6,645 ✭✭✭ Alena Sweet Wintergreen


    I think you should be entitled to choose anyone you like to move in. It's your home, after all. I don't think 'discrimination' really applies when it comes to housemates. I'm sure many/most will disagree.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,640 ✭✭✭Pushtrak


    I wouldn't give a crap one way or the other, but I presume if a person cared so much about the person they are living with not being homosexual, then the feelings would be mutual. As in, the homosexual would no more want to live with them than vice versa.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,238 ✭✭✭humbert


    I could understand not wanting to live with a camp person but just on the basis of which gender they are attracted to seems a bit off.


  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 51,685 Mod ✭✭✭✭Stheno


    Yep it's discrimination

    And what's with the leave instead of allow/accept?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,626 ✭✭✭✭My name is URL


    It might not be homophobic but it's clearly discrimination. Even if there's no bad intent.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,455 ✭✭✭Where To


    tunedout wrote: »
    do you think it is discrimination and homophobic to not leave someone who is homosexual move in with you?
    YES


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 448 ✭✭tunedout


    Stheno wrote: »
    Yep it's discrimination

    And what's with the leave instead of allow/accept?

    Fixed. Thanks.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,711 ✭✭✭stimpson


    tunedout wrote: »
    So maybe there would be a less biased opinion here, do you think it is discrimination and homophobic to not leave someone who is homosexual move in with you?

    Surely that's the definition of homophobia.

    Do you think it's not racist if you don't want to share with coloured people?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,098 ✭✭✭kiffer


    Gets popcorn...

    Also... yes, the housemates are free to decide who they want to let move in...
    Yes, if they liked him untill he said he was gay they are being homophobic...

    No gays! = homophobic.
    No blacks/Asians/whites/cherokee/whatever = racist.
    No men/women = sexist (some obvious exceptions... like twin rooms)

    Simple and straightforward.

    Why would you be uncomfortable with a gay person in the house?


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 448 ✭✭tunedout


    stimpson wrote: »
    Do you think it's not racist if you don't want to share with coloured people?


    Are a bunch of lads who are looking for a 3rd/4th lad to move in with them sexist?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,572 ✭✭✭✭brummytom


    When I moved to uni, I was put in a room with two Egyptian, very very devout, Muslims. They didn't drink, didn't smoke, didn't eat bacon (which was the last straw).

    I moved rooms, not because they were Muslim/Egyptian per se, but because we had absolutely nothing in common and I didn't want to spend a year sharing with people I'd struggle to say more than a few words to.

    Basically, no, I don't think it's a problem. People constantly look to find offence in something. If you don't feel comfortable living with someone, why should you?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,930 ✭✭✭Jimoslimos


    Choosing a room/house mate is a discriminatory process anyway. I've seen it applied the other way in Sydney - ads looking for gay/lesbian housemates. People want to live with others they feel comfortable with, doesn't bother me either way so long as its not in a professional capacity (workplace, customers, etc)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 44,079 ✭✭✭✭Micky Dolenz


    Sounds like you have some repressed issue you need to address OP.

    Want to chat over drinks?


  • Administrators Posts: 56,574 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭awec


    Of course it's not homophobic or discriminatory. You are free to decide who you want to live with ffs.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,207 ✭✭✭The King of Moo


    It is discrimination in a literal sense, in that you're choosing not to accept them based on a particular criterion.

    But it's not legal discrimination, in that you're entitled to choose whomever you want to be a housemate.

    I personally don't see why anyone would be uncomfortable living with someone of a different sexuality though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,041 ✭✭✭Seachmall


    I like the comparison with girls not wanting a guy to move in.

    That's generally accepted as being a "safe" decision but it's still discrimination (and a bit of an absurd generalisation).

    At the end of the day they are allowed to choose to live with someone they feel comfortable around.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,943 ✭✭✭ballsymchugh


    there was an ad in daft a few years ago when i was looking for a place in dublin where some fella was renting a room in rathgar. at the end of the ad, he asked for gay people only. the room was still advertised for about 6 months, so his discrimination towards straight people may have cost him a whack of money.
    discrimination goes both ways.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,390 ✭✭✭IM0


    stimpson wrote: »
    Surely that's the definition of homophobia.

    Do you think it's not racist if you don't want to share with coloured people?


    its racist to call non causasian [aka 'white'] people coloured. full stop

    the world you are looking for is black ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 37,873 ✭✭✭✭Penn


    I think it is discrimination and homophobic. You're not letting that person move in based solely on their sexual preference rather than their own merits (going by your OP anyway).

    But at the same time, if you feel like you're not going to get along with them based on anything (in this case, their sexuality), then it's best for all parties concerned that you don't let them move in.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,788 ✭✭✭✭krudler


    I don't really see why someone's sexual preferences would make them any harder to live with but unless they're throwing gay orgies and walking around in assless leather chapps, which I hear is what gheys are prone to do,then I guess its ok.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,390 ✭✭✭IM0


    Seachmall wrote: »
    I like the comparison with girls not wanting a guy to move in.

    That's generally accepted as being a "safe" decision
    but it's still discrimination (and a bit of an absurd generalisation).

    At the end of the day they are allowed to choose to live with someone they feel comfortable around.

    safe in the sense of?


  • Administrators Posts: 56,574 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭awec


    there was an ad in daft a few years ago when i was looking for a place in dublin where some fella was renting a room in rathgar. at the end of the ad, he asked for gay people only. the room was still advertised for about 6 months, so his discrimination towards straight people may have cost him a whack of money.
    discrimination goes both ways.
    I've seen a few of those ads.

    Presumably the people in question just feel more comfortable living with gay people.

    Fair enough. I'm not offended by that, they are free to choose who they want to live with.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,041 ✭✭✭Seachmall


    IM0 wrote: »
    safe in the sense of?

    Rape.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 448 ✭✭tunedout


    krudler wrote: »
    I don't really see why someone's sexual preferences would make them any harder to live with

    Can you see why someone's sex, age, race, religion would make them any harder to live with?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,390 ✭✭✭IM0


    krudler wrote: »
    I don't really see why someone's sexual preferences would make them any harder to live with but unless they're throwing gay orgies and walking around in assless leather chapps, which I hear is what gheys are prone to do,then I guess its ok.

    maybe you dont want to hear two guys going at it, on the other side of your accommodations thin plasterboard [usually] wall


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,972 ✭✭✭orestes


    You're not looking for a less biased opinion, you're looking for people to back up your bullsh1t.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 448 ✭✭tunedout


    awec wrote: »
    I've seen a few of those ads.

    Presumably the people in question just feel more comfortable living with gay people.

    Fair enough. I'm not offended by that, they are free to choose who they want to live with.

    So isn't it fine to say that some straight people might be more comfortable living with straight people aswell?
    Have you any issue with that?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,390 ✭✭✭IM0


    Seachmall wrote: »
    Rape.

    your having a laugh! but that is what I thought you were eluding to though :rolleyes:


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,779 ✭✭✭✭Princess Consuela Bananahammock


    It might not be homophobic but it's clearly discrimination. Even if there's no bad intent.

    I'd go the othe way around.

    Everything I don't like is either woke or fascist - possibly both - pick one.



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