Buying a Badge

166man · 05-03-2013 10:28PM

ba_barabus wrote: »

Could be worse, we could be talking about posh Fiats :pac:

I left myself open for that one admittedly...:D

rocky · 05-03-2013 10:29PM

BMW 4 LYFE

:pac:

who cares what other people think...

Voodoomelon · 06-03-2013 12:31AM

Eric Cartman wrote: »

the biggest 'bought for the badge' cars imo are toyotas, throw a toyota badge on anything and Irish people will buy it.

About sums up the thread really.
I'd say an incredibly small amount of people guy a German brand (mid to high end) "because of the badge". The huge majority of people, even in this country, are not so ridiculously self conscious that they feel they have to buy a particular brand just so they can tell others. Yes some do, but the vast majority do not.

Most people in this country will jump on anything that has a VW/Toyota/Nissan badge because they offer proven/perceived "reliability" for a good price. Once the decision on the above manufacturer has been made, the next objective is to get the highest year affordable. Having the newest registration is far more important to most people than badge, as it looks good, projects success (moreso than a 2004 S500 in their eyes, thats an old banger), is less likely to give trouble and you get a nice warranty which means the car "doesn't need to be serviced".

As mentioned, even poverty spec German motors are nice places to be. Lets not forget that most other brands on the road are also poverty spec and are cheap, nasty places to be.

JerCotter7 · 06-03-2013 12:44AM

Voodoomelon wrote: »

About sums up the thread really.
I'd say an incredibly small amount of people guy a German brand (mid to high end) "because of the badge". The huge majority of people, even in this country, are not so ridiculously self conscious that they feel they have to buy a particular brand just so they can tell others. Yes some do, but the vast majority do not.

Most people in this country will jump on anything that has a VW/Toyota/Nissan badge because they offer proven/perceived "reliability" for a good price. Once the decision on the above manufacturer has been made, the next objective is to get the highest year affordable. Having the newest registration is far more important to most people than badge, as it looks good, projects success (moreso than a 2004 S500 in their eyes, thats an old banger), is less likely to give trouble and you get a nice warranty which means the car "doesn't need to be serviced".

As mentioned, even poverty spec German motors are nice places to be. Lets not forget that most other brands on the road are also poverty spec and are cheap, nasty places to be.

+1 on the last line. I don't get why people say for the price of a basic spec BMW you can get another car with more options. When the average person looks at it that way, they will just buy the other car with the basic options and not bother with anything extra.

I would guess that the base BMW package will be a bit nicer than most others that sell for less. Just a guess since I doubt I'll ever own a new car.

dgt · 06-03-2013 12:46AM

Voodoomelon has it in a nutshell

"Oh it's a */Insert generic non specific blandbox here*/ it must be a great yoke, I must buy one, tell everyone how great it is and force my ill informed opinion on everyone else to buy one because everything else is rubbish...."

I buy cars on the basis of how they interest me. And to stick my 2 fingers at the people who recommended a blandbox instead :rolleyes: eg I was told not to buy a 166 by a numpty with no concept of enthusiasm, they're crap, unreliable, worthless etc.... Look how that turned out :pac:

On poverty spec luxobarges, the W126 in the garage came with cloth seats, no air con, one electric mirror and a steel spare wheel. My E34 by contrast puts it to shame, SE spec. But both are still nice places to be in

rocky · 06-03-2013 11:25AM

I actually bought one of these on Monday to replace the peeling bonnet one

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/BMW-BONNET-BOOT-3-5-7-Series-M-LOGO-BADGE-82MM-NEW-UK-STOCK-PART-NO-5114-8132-35-/221192590432?

Only ~7 euro

Nissan doctor · 06-03-2013 11:46AM

While I agree that not everyone buy's BMW's for the 'badge' and that there are many proper enthusiasts,but the amount of basic spec(and even not so basic spec) 3 series on the roads with the front wishbone bushes hanging out of them and broken rear springs proves that the much used 'driving experience' excuse for buying a BMW is just that for many, an excuse to hide the rear reason for buying it.

rocky · 06-03-2013 11:48AM

Nissan doctor wrote: »

While I agree that not everyone buy's BMW's for the 'badge' and that there are many proper enthusiasts,but the amount of basic spec(and even not so basic spec) 3 series on the roads with the front wishbone bushes hanging out of them and broken rear springs proves that the much used 'driving experience' excuse for buying a BMW is just that for many, an excuse to hide the rear reason for buying it.

Rear Wheel Drive?

Kenny Logins · 06-03-2013 11:52AM

rocky wrote: »

Rear Wheel Drive?

Room for golf clubs.

Nissan doctor · 06-03-2013 11:54AM

rocky wrote: »

Rear Wheel Drive?

Yeah!...most drivers wouldn't have a balls notion what the differences are between FWD and RWD and how they effect your driving technique.

BMW are of course the most popular RWD cars available by far...and all that means to the average Irish driver is that they can't be driven in the snow:rolleyes:

Tea 1000 · 06-03-2013 02:14PM

Eric Cartman wrote: »

+1 , I never realised a car could drive so well until I bought the 7 series, Ive driven a load of 'premium' cars (lexus rx's, passats etc..) and the main stay of the irish punter (avensis, santa fe, primera) and nothing comes close to the driving experience you get from the bavarian badge.

Lots of things come close, but it depends on what you're comparing and to what from Bavaria.

Nissan doctor wrote: »

Yeah!...most drivers wouldn't have a balls notion what the differences are between FWD and RWD and how they effect your driving technique.

BMW are of course the most popular RWD cars available by far...and all that means to the average Irish driver is that they can't be driven in the snow:rolleyes:

Most Irish drivers don't have a notion about anything car related. How else can so many think an FWD A4 be a "drivers car"?
You're right about the "Driving experience" being the excuse for most BMW buyers, just like manual is the choice because auto "takes from the driving experience". The amount of BMW's with piss tyres all round would highlight the fact that most don't know what a fine handling car is.
(I wouldn't mind if it had Pirelli Pzero's on the front and Wanli's on the back, that would at least point to a reason!!!!)
I'd say 80% of Beemers in this country are bought because it has the right badge.

ugglasdav · 06-03-2013 04:24PM

Voodoomelon wrote: »

About sums up the thread really.
I'd say an incredibly small amount of people guy a German brand (mid to high end) "because of the badge". The huge majority of people, even in this country, are not so ridiculously self conscious that they feel they have to buy a particular brand just so they can tell others. Yes some do, but the vast majority do not.

Most people in this country will jump on anything that has a VW/Toyota/Nissan badge because they offer proven/perceived "reliability" for a good price. Once the decision on the above manufacturer has been made, the next objective is to get the highest year affordable. Having the newest registration is far more important to most people than badge, as it looks good, projects success (moreso than a 2004 S500 in their eyes, thats an old banger), is less likely to give trouble and you get a nice warranty which means the car "doesn't need to be serviced".

As mentioned, even poverty spec German motors are nice places to be. Lets not forget that most other brands on the road are also poverty spec and are cheap, nasty places to be.

your point is true about irish people going for the newest affordable car, thats why you see so many bog spec cars going around.

but still do think that people buy BM's, audi, Vw etc say that they are 'into cars' and from there they have to buy something that is of abit higher quality and end up going for one, thinking that they are driving a unique car when there is 100's of them around for the same reason.

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