Dublin GAA Discussion Thread - 2013

03-03-2013 09:56AM

I came here looking to hear Dublin thoughts on last nights match.

Obviously no one is interested, its all some silly stuff about Kildare

rebel girl 15 · 03-03-2013 10:47AM

I've deleted all the posts about Kildare - this is a Dublin GAA thread, if there is a topic like that, start a new thread

Dirty Dingus McGee · 03-03-2013 10:50AM

I wonder is Ger Brennan close to losing his starting place.I like him as a footballer and his combatitiveness is one of his strengths but he seems far too likely to get sent off and it could cost Dublin in a big game.If I was a manager of Dublins opposition him I'd tell my players wind him up all day in the hope he'd lose his cool.

InchicoreDude · 03-03-2013 11:32AM

Dirty Dingus McGee wrote: »

I wonder is Ger Brennan close to losing his starting place.I like him as a footballer and his combatitiveness is one of his strengths but he seems far too likely to get sent off and i could cost Dublin inabig game.If i was a manager of Dublins opposition him I'd tell my players wind him up all day in the hope he'd lose his cool.

He does seem a bit of a liability alright. He has had really serious discipline issues since I remember him coming on the scene.

The little kick at a player lying on the ground was pretty thuggish behaviour. I know it was only a small kick but even still... why do such a stupid thing? I dont think the Mayo players really wound him that much last night!

exador · 03-03-2013 01:59PM

InchicoreDude wrote: »

He does seem a bit of a liability alright. He has had really serious discipline issues since I remember him coming on the scene.

The little kick at a player lying on the ground was pretty thuggish behaviour. I know it was only a small kick but even still... why do such a stupid thing? I dont think the Mayo players really wound him that much last night!

No qualms about Ger Brennan getting red but to say he wasnt been wound up is not true and Mayo used this tactic last night and it worked. Aidan O Shea in particular was constantly pulling and dragging from the throw in and was a lot of this going on off the ball. Dublin were trying to play Football. Not sure if this was seen on TV but he was at it all night trying to get Dublin players booked.

DoctaDee · 03-03-2013 02:15PM

In fairness to Ger, that was a proper red card - a thump a kick and an elbow

. I was very encouraged with Dubs performance last night, was a strange scoring affair with each scoring in blocks of 4-5 points. The last few years in the league we looked at lads like Daly & Murray from St. Brigids amongst others, knowing that at the tail end of the year they wouldn't be seen. I have to say that Daly, O'Brien were exceptional last night, and the lads returning to the back 6 McCarthy, Philly McM and Kevin Nolan, may find these lads aren't gonna be makeweights. If Gavin is true to his word and picks a jersey based on performance these lads will have a big say this Summer.

After a slow start I think O'Mahony showed great potential, great work effort and distribution in the middle. I really am gonna have to dig out that post of mine a year or so back extolling the virtues of Paddy Andrews another great night for him and Bernard. There would seem to be a much better understanding between those 2 in the short time they've played together than say the like of Connolly

exador · 03-03-2013 02:25PM

DoctaDee wrote: »

In fairness to Ger, that was a proper red card - a thump a kick and an elbow . I was very encouraged with Dubs performance last night, was a strange scoring affair with each scoring in blocks of 4-5 points. The last few years in the league we looked at lads like Daly & Murray from St. Brigids amongst others, knowing that at the tail end of the year they wouldn't be seen. I have to say that Daly, O'Brien were exceptional last night, and the lads returning to the back 6 McCarthy, Philly McM and Kevin Nolan, may find these lads aren't gonna be makeweights. If Gavin is true to his word and picks a jersey based on performance these lads will have a big say this Summer.

After a slow start I think O'Mahony showed great potential, great work effort and distribution in the middle. I really am gonna have to dig out that post of mine a year or so back extolling the virtues of Paddy Andrews another great night for him and Bernard. There would seem to be a much better understanding between those 2 in the short time they've played together than say the like of Connolly

Agree on Paddy Andrews and he had another great game last night. He has been up there as player of the league campaign so far. He makes some great bursting runs and is looking fitter that he ever has and made a lot of scores last night.

DoctaDee · 03-03-2013 02:42PM

exador wrote: »

Agree on Paddy Andrews and he had another great game last night. He has been up there as player of the league campaign so far. He makes some great bursting runs and is looking fitter that he ever has and made a lot of scores last night.

Absolutely, the lad can be forgiven the past year or 2 coming back from serious injury, he covered every blade of grass last night. I think at one stage he was in the full back line collecting a pass from Cluxton. This team has serious potential, in particular their speed of play and the manner in which they are altering attacks with clever switching of play, and excellent use of the foot pass was evident last night.

Gavins biggest problem will be chiselling the group down to 26 players, let alone finding a starting 15

Justin10 · 03-03-2013 02:49PM

DoctaDee wrote: »

Absolutely, the lad can be forgiven the past year or 2 coming back from serious injury, he covered every blade of grass last night. I think at one stage he was in the full back line collecting a pass from Cluxton. This team has serious potential, in particular their speed of play and the manner in which they are altering attacks with clever switching of play, and excellent use of the foot pass was evident last night.

Gavins biggest problem will be chiselling the group down to 26 players, let alone finding a starting 15

Who had a serious injury??

copacetic · 03-03-2013 02:53PM

InchicoreDude wrote: »

He does seem a bit of a liability alright. He has had really serious discipline issues since I remember him coming on the scene.

The little kick at a player lying on the ground was pretty thuggish behaviour. I know it was only a small kick but even still... why do such a stupid thing? I dont think the Mayo players really wound him that much last night!

He has been very controlled for the last few years. Totally changed his game around. Last night O'Shea was constantly niggling him off the ball and then falling to the ground to appeal to the ref when he got a little back. Brennan deslt well with him and O'Shea was ruining his own game rather than Brennan. I thought Brennan had learned a lot from past problems, but he clearly let it get to him as game went on. The little kick at the ball was just stupid. You have to expect players to make the most of any excuse to act injured now, especially Mayo.

As for Vaughan, he charged in looking for trouble and he got it then lay down 'injured'. Similar to what he did to Connolly last year, threw the first punch, then dives when he gets one back. Stupid again from Brennan to get involved with a known cheating play actor.

Either way he was going for the first kick at the ball, although ref didn't appear to care until the crowd reacted.

Great display from rest of team from then on against a tight enough fouling defence when the ref was letting all pulling and dragging go (for both teams). Great displays all over the park, O'Mahony and O'Sullivan looked a little slow and lost a lot of ball early on, but as game went on O'Mahony won a lot of high ball and O'Sullivan hoovered everything up as well as making the wide runs for kick outs.

DoctaDee · 03-03-2013 03:39PM

Rochey18 wrote: »

Who had a serious injury??

Howya Rochey didn't PA have a cruciate or like injury? ... if not then who da fack am I thinking of :rolleyes:

Justin10 · 03-03-2013 03:44PM

DoctaDee wrote: »

Howya Rochey didn't PA have a cruciate or like injury? ... if not then who da fack am I thinking of :rolleyes:

No PA has been flying fit and the best forward in the Club championship for a few years now.

I would guess your thinking of Mark Davoren from Crokes, since you said cruciate?

InchicoreDude · 03-03-2013 03:45PM

Last night O'Shea was constantly niggling him off the ball and then falling to the ground to appeal to the ref when he got a little back. Brennan deslt well with him and O'Shea was ruining his own game rather than Brennan.

No qualms about Ger Brennan getting red but to say he wasnt been wound up is not true and Mayo used this tactic last night and it worked. Aidan O Shea in particular was constantly pulling and dragging from the throw in and was a lot of this going on off the ball.

To be honest I thought there was a lot of off the ball stuff from both teams, not just Mayo. And regardless of whether he was being purposely wound up (which I really dont think he was), he should not rise to it....

but1er · 03-03-2013 04:27PM

I would never let Ger Brennan wear a Dublin jersey ever again! Sick of him

DoctaDee · 03-03-2013 04:36PM

Rochey18 wrote: »

No PA has been flying fit and the best forward in the Club championship for a few years now.

I would guess your thinking of Mark Davoren from Crokes, since you said cruciate?

Absolutely agree @ best forward in Club Champs. Never felt Gilroy gave him a fair crack, persisting with O'Gara etc.

Dublinfan · 03-03-2013 04:47PM

was thinking to myself what happens when alan brogan makes his return, will he be put back as a main forward possibly replacing Connolly or used as a sub

Dublinproud · 03-03-2013 06:34PM

but1er wrote: »

I would never let Ger Brennan wear a Dublin jersey ever again! Sick of him

So you hate Connolly and now Brennan?

Anti Vincents maybe?

exador · 03-03-2013 07:38PM

InchicoreDude wrote: »

To be honest I thought there was a lot of off the ball stuff from both teams, not just Mayo. And regardless of whether he was being purposely wound up (which I really dont think he was), he should not rise to it....

Agree that he shouldnt rise to it but o shea in particular was cynical in his off the ball antics and fell down like a sack of spuds as soon as anyone reacted.

corny · 03-03-2013 07:53PM

Dublinfan wrote: »

was thinking to myself what happens when alan brogan makes his return, will he be put back as a main forward possibly replacing Connolly or used as a sub

They can both play.

10. Flynn
11. A. Brogan
12. McManamon/Kilkenny (Kilkenny to start)
13. B Brogan
14. Andrews
15. Connolly

The style we play really suits the three inside men because they can all win their own ball. Add in the fact Flynn, KK and A Brogan are excellent distributors and you've got yourself a formidable unit.

Ger Brennan is a perfect CB and a favourite of mine but tbh he can't afford to let the nonsense start again. There is fierce competition in the half backs (we've so many of them) and Gavin can afford to be picky.

InchicoreDude · 03-03-2013 07:55PM

Rochey18 wrote: »

No PA has been flying fit and the best forward in the Club championship for a few years now.

I would guess your thinking of Mark Davoren from Crokes, since you said cruciate?

Where is Davoren now? Will he make it back to the county scene? Thought he looked pretty good whenever I saw him play.

corny · 03-03-2013 08:04PM

exador wrote: »

Agree that he shouldnt rise to it but o shea in particular was cynical in his off the ball antics and fell down like a sack of spuds as soon as anyone reacted.

Its something you'd have to think is encouraged by Horan. Against Dublin and Down last year they had a very cynical edge to them; players are fully aware of whats going on. The GAA are doing nothing to stop it though. Personally i think less of players engaging in that stuff than i do of 'moment of madness' type events, like Brennan.

mobby · 03-03-2013 08:12PM

Anyone tell me the thinking behind having Cluxton run the length of the pitch to take a penalty?

exador · 03-03-2013 08:13PM

corny wrote: »

Its something you'd have to think is encouraged by Horan. Against Dublin and Down last year they had a very cynical edge to them; players are fully aware of whats going on. The GAA are doing nothing to stop it though. Personally i think less of players engaging in that stuff than i do of 'moment of madness' type events, like Brennan.

Thats the frustrating thing is that the GAA are doing nothing to stop it....Cannot justify what Brennan did but frustrating to see the off the ball stuff. Dublins discipline has improved greatly and the brennan incident is not what we need.

corny · 03-03-2013 08:30PM

exador wrote: »

Thats the frustrating thing is that the GAA are doing nothing to stop it....Cannot justify what Brennan did but frustrating to see the off the ball stuff. Dublins discipline has improved greatly and the brennan incident is not what we need.

We've still players who react though and the more they react the more they'll be provoked. I don't think a game goes by that Connolly doesn't get involved with somebody. Most of the time its pushing and shoving but other times.... well we know that story.

copacetic · 03-03-2013 08:58PM

corny wrote: »

Its something you'd have to think is encouraged by Horan. Against Dublin and Down last year they had a very cynical edge to them; players are fully aware of whats going on. The GAA are doing nothing to stop it though. Personally i think less of players engaging in that stuff than i do of 'moment of madness' type events, like Brennan.

I hope O'Shea doesn't turn in to one of those players, for DIT last week there was little sign of it but this week it was all off the ball messing, diving and screaming at the ref and following in to push and shove people. Great player who doesn't need to lower himself to the level of the likes of Vaughan who seems to spend most of his time rolling around holding his face in between cynical fouls. He should have had 3 yellows yesterday rather than the one he finally ended up with.

but1er · 03-03-2013 09:42PM

Dublinproud wrote: »

So you hate Connolly and now Brennan?

Anti Vincents maybe?

Yep them two been on my list a long time!

Great players Just so short tempered will cost us big games!

Justin10 · 03-03-2013 09:58PM

InchicoreDude wrote: »

Where is Davoren now? Will he make it back to the county scene? Thought he looked pretty good whenever I saw him play.

He went for his operation then came back and got injured again had two operations. Dont think he is still playing football, he isn't on the seniors anyway.

Blue Magic · 04-03-2013 01:35AM

This bringing Cluxton up for the penalty last night was only pure showmanship bulls**t. Bernard Brogan or surely someone else from 2 to 15 could have hit it. Can see the logic completely in Hurling because it's about hitting ball as hard as possible and the goalie hurler is a huge advantage also.

On another note, Brogan was mercurial last night. Superb scores from all angles. The sideline kick was the pick of them

DARK-KNIGHT · 04-03-2013 10:24AM

mobby wrote: »

Anyone tell me the thinking behind having Cluxton run the length of the pitch to take a penalty?

I think cluxton taking frees is wasting game time can't believe one of your forwards doesn't want to step up...

But a goalkeeper taking a penalty in football is ridiculous at best.

Great win for ye against mayo well done..

Looking forward to trip up to ye this weekend should be a belter..

CILL DARA ABÚ

Falconno4 · 04-03-2013 10:42AM

Rochey18 wrote: »

He went for his operation then came back and got injured again had two operations. Dont think he is still playing football, he isn't on the seniors anyway.

Retired.

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