Transgender child banned from girl's bathroom

Hilly Bill · 28-02-2013 09:50PM

MadsL wrote: »

Do tortoises have separate bathrooms?

Maybe they do in tortoise school . He could change his name to meshell.

krudler · 28-02-2013 09:52PM

What the hell is this thread even about anymore?

bodice ripper · 28-02-2013 09:54PM

MadsL wrote: »

A poster claimed that kids should go to their own bathroms alone whatever their age (clearly not a parent). I pointed out that many kids go with whichever parent is with them and that sending a kid to a male public bathroom alone was not safe or suitable.

I've seen people having sex and doing class A's in women's toilets, so....

Carlos Orange · 28-02-2013 09:54PM

MadsL wrote: »

Don't click on this link then.
http://www.gloryhole2.com/en/dublin/ireland

That might be more convincing if the map of glory holes in Dublin had any
markers on it.

MadsL · 28-02-2013 09:56PM

Chris Martin wrote: »

Christ you really have witnessed it all,
Again, been to saunas and steam room on many occasions and personally don't even see the window of opportunity where it could take place...
Every spa/gym differs though...

Are making out that men are uncontrollable horny hormonal homosapiens that will crack one off whenever they get the chance, audience be damned!

I guess you think those cars are parked up in a country lay-by to have a midnight picnic.

Here, enlighten yourself a little.

NSFW
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cottaging
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dogging_(sexual_slang)

MadsL · 28-02-2013 09:58PM

psinno wrote: »

That might be more convincing if the map of glory holes in Dublin had any
markers on it.

I see you checked, for research

--Kaiser-- · 28-02-2013 10:01PM

krudler wrote: »

What the hell is this thread even about anymore?

I think some of the posters gave up on attempting to argue for the preposterous proposition that a six year old could realise that it was a girl born in a boys body so have moved on to some nonsense about toilet-trading

MadsL · 28-02-2013 10:02PM

bodice ripper wrote: »

I've seen people having sex and doing class A's in women's toilets, so....

Not having been in any, I didn't feel I could comment.

So back to the original point.

Children should not used public toilets unaccompanied. So Chris, it is not as you said,

Chris Martin wrote: »

The parents have trained their son to use the female toilets when out in public,
It's not allowed, plain and simple.
The school isn't in the wrong.

I would not let any kid use any public toilet alone.

Chris Martin · 28-02-2013 10:02PM

MadsL wrote: »

I guess you think those cars are parked up in a country lay-by to have a midnight picnic.

Here, enlighten yourself a little.

NSFW
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cottaging
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dogging_(sexual_slang)

I'm a 20 year old male college student,
I'm more than clued up on said terms,
What I'm saying is every time you see a man on his own in the sauna,
Someone sitting in their car on their own in a carpark,
A bloke in a tracksuit going to the public toilets,
They're not always doing something indecent,
They may in fact relaxing in the sauna after a tough week,
Waiting for someone they're collecting,
Or using the lavatory...

Very paranoid about such things..

Boombastic · 28-02-2013 10:03PM

The only one making a fuss of this is the parents. All the needed to do was to tell the child 'no matter if you are a boy or a girl, people with penises use toilet A, people with vagina's use toilet B', case closed

The Aussie · 28-02-2013 10:04PM

Links234 wrote: »

What you are saying is nonsense, unless you believe that transgender people don't exist.

Hey mate, maybe you might be able to answer the question in the OP, I'm just curious how it should be handled??

The Aussie wrote: »

How would any school deal with this situation???

I think the Question got lost in the condemnation there somewhere.

MadsL · 28-02-2013 10:04PM

--Kaiser-- wrote: »

I think some of the posters gave up on attempting to argue for the preposterous proposition that a six year old could realise that it was a girl born in a boys body so have moved on to some nonsense about toilet-trading

I was answering a point above about the parents "training" Coy to use public toilets.

Some posters are blissful innocent as babes so some 'splaning was done.

Hilly Bill · 28-02-2013 10:05PM

krudler wrote: »

What the hell is this thread even about anymore?

Transgender tortoises using glory holes in both the mens and womens toilets.

starlings · 28-02-2013 10:07PM

The Aussie wrote: »

Hey mate, maybe you might be able to answer the question in the OP, I'm just curious how it should be handled??

I think the Question got lost in the condemnation there somewhere.

Hey Aussie, look what you started!

MadsL · 28-02-2013 10:09PM

Chris Martin wrote: »

I'm a 20 year old male college student,
I'm more than clued up on said terms,
What I'm saying is every time you see a man on his own in the sauna,
Someone sitting in their car on their own in a carpark,
A bloke in a tracksuit going to the public toilets,
They're not always doing something indecent,
They may in fact relaxing in the sauna after a tough week,
Waiting for someone they're collecting,
Or using the lavatory...

Very paranoid about such things..

God, you are innocent. I'm not saying everyone everytime, I'm pointing out what can and does happen in toilets, carparks and saunas. None of which you want a young child seeing.

It's not paranoia to protect your child in public. I challenge you to find one parent who would allow their kid to go off into public toilets alone at this age.

God help you if you have nephews or nieces, please don't be sending them off alone.

Chris Martin · 28-02-2013 10:09PM

MadsL wrote: »

I was answering a point above about the parents "training" Coy to use public toilets.

Some posters are blissful innocent as babes so some 'splaning was done.

Or have lived their life so far without having been mounted in the toilets,
Having never been offered drugs in a public toilet in Ireland,
And to date haven't been attacked in one...

There's something to be said for taking things for granted!
Lucky me!

MadsL · 28-02-2013 10:10PM

Boombastic wrote: »

The only one making a fuss of this is the parents. All the needed to do was to tell the child 'no matter if you are a boy or a girl, people with penises use toilet A, people with vagina's use toilet B', case closed

And the school had Toilet C that everyone used until last year.

Chris Martin · 28-02-2013 10:11PM

MadsL wrote: »

God, you are innocent. I'm not saying everyone everytime, I'm pointing out what can and does happen in toilets, carparks and saunas. None of which you want a young child seeing.

It's not paranoia to protect your child in public. I challenge you to find one parent who would allow their kid to go off into public toilets alone at this age.

God help you if you have nephews or nieces, please don't be sending them off alone.

I wait outside!
If something terrible happens, they can shout!
Can't be spoon-fed all the way through life..

MadsL · 28-02-2013 10:12PM

Chris Martin wrote: »

Or have lived their life so far without having been mounted in the toilets,
Having never been offered drugs in a public toilet in Ireland,
And to date haven't been attacked in one...

There's something to be said for taking things for granted!
Lucky me!

You have probably never been burgled either, but I bet there is a lock on your door.

Go ask mammy if she ever let you use the public toilets alone at the age of seven.

HondaSami · 28-02-2013 10:13PM

Chris Martin wrote: »

I wait outside!
If something terrible happens, they can shout!
Can't be spoon-fed all the way through life..

I would never let a child into a public toilet alone, paranoia yes but it's better to be safe than sorry.

MadsL · 28-02-2013 10:20PM

Chris Martin wrote: »

I wait outside!
If something terrible happens, they can shout!
Can't be spoon-fed all the way through life..

Oh God. Really? Stand in the public area of the toilet in future.

http://www.wtsp.com/news/article/182866/250/Lowry-Park-Zoo-volunteer-arrested-for-molesting-boy

According to the police report, the boy went into a zoo bathroom and was approached by Spurback who pulled the boy's pants down and fondled him. Police then said Spurback pulled down his own pants and fondled himself in front of the child.

It happens.

homemadecider · 28-02-2013 10:21PM

Links234 wrote: »

I wish this bollocks meme would just die already! "Oh, what's stopping me from doing x, y or z"

Do you know what? I ****ing dare you to walk a mile in my shoes and see how far you get. Go ahead and come out to everyone you know that you're trans and face the risk and uncertainty of rejection and disapproval or outright ostricization, or risk losing your job because of it. Then go ahead and start seeing a psychologist for a while so you can get a referal to an endocrinologist, try bluff your way through that. See the endocrinologists who have all their own questions to grill you with and make you see another psych before they even allow you to start treatment. Get your GP on board, so they'll administer your hormone blocking shots. But be careful, it's perfectly legal in this country for a health professional to refuse to treat you based on their religious convictions, it's happened to people I know! Then sit back as your body changes drastically from the hormone treatment.* Then go and navigate all the beaurocracy to get your name changed and the gender maker on your passport changed so that you now have ID for how you're currently presenting.

Now show the people in the Gym your new ID and you're all set to hang out in changing rooms for an hour. Then tell us, was it worth it?

'cos that's what we have to go through

* This is what your body would go through when starting hormone treatment BTW and there's so many changes that happen that you don't see:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MCEjCHb_-Qg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8xjM-wJYMCg

What was the point of those videos? That men can be good at disguising themselves as women?

Chris Martin · 28-02-2013 10:25PM

MadsL wrote: »

You have probably never been burgled either, but I bet there is a lock on your door.

Go ask mammy if she ever let you use the public toilets alone at the age of seven.

Oh I've been burgled,
Don't jump to conclusions..
I'm aware that there's bad people out there...
I just don't see the point in living in constant fear and apprehension that something will happen to your child as soon as they leave your sight.

HondaSami wrote: »

I would never let a child into a public toilet alone, paranoia yes but it's better to be safe than sorry.

It would seem I'm alone on this matter then,
Perhaps I'll change my view by the time I'm a parent,
Relatively open-minded...

MadsL · 28-02-2013 10:28PM

Chris Martin wrote: »

It would seem I'm alone on this matter then,
Perhaps I'll change my view by the time I'm a parent,
Relatively open-minded...

For your nephews/nieces/friend's children sake please change how you look after them now. Not when you become a parent.

starlings · 28-02-2013 10:32PM

When I was 6, my school had toilets at the end of the yard. In the winter they'd freeze so I really really really wanted a penis, but just so the seat wouldn't freeze the backs of my legs off, and so I could watch the ice crack under a stream of directed p1ss.

/non sequitur

Chris Martin · 28-02-2013 10:34PM

I'll try to attend the toilets that contain just one toilet bowl & sink for the time being,
Might just throw them on a leash and be done with it.

awec · 28-02-2013 10:34PM

MadsL wrote: »

Are you that naive to think sexual acts do not take place in male public toilets?
Wow.
Errm.
Cottaging
George Michael
Gloryholes

None of this familiar?? <baffled>

What. the. fcuk.

Has any of that ever happened to you?

clairefontaine · 28-02-2013 10:34PM

starlings wrote: »

When I was 6, my school had toilets at the end of the yard. In the winter they'd freeze so I really really really wanted a penis, but just so the seat wouldn't freeze the backs of my legs off, and so I could watch the ice crack under a stream of directed p1ss.

/non sequitur

Far away genitals are always greener?

MadsL · 28-02-2013 10:37PM

awec wrote: »

What. the. fcuk.

Has any of that ever happened to you?

Let's not hash out what has, and has not happened to me. Let's also not hash out what has, and has not happened to me under the age of 16.

I'm posting about the safety of children in public toilets. Join the dots for yourself. This thread isn't about me.

starlings · 28-02-2013 10:38PM

clairefontaine wrote: »

Far away genitals are always greener?

Bíonn adharca fada ar na ba i gcéin / faraway cows have long horns. :pac:

Transgender child banned from girl's bathroom

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