Broadcasting charge will be levied on every home in the country

Mint Sauce · 26-02-2013 06:50PM

handbagmad wrote: »

I think i can categorricaly speak for 99% of the population of this f**king country when I say **** you Pat Rabbit and your party,goverment and co.
You seriously would wonder why we bother?
160 euro a year we pay already.. for ****e? People who have broadband aleady pay vat on their bills so you already get revenue for that.
People are already under too much pressure.

Yes, the current TV service we already get is pretty much sh!te, but if you are already paying it, then what are you getting so worked up about. This is just under a new name, will pretty much go to the same place as the current fee. The only other difference is, it might get a few more paying into the pot.

darjeeling · 26-02-2013 06:56PM

irish-stew wrote: »

Yes, the current TV service we already get is pretty much sh!te, but if you are already paying it, then what are you getting so worked up about. This is just under a new name, will pretty much go to the same place as the current fee. The only other difference is, it might get a few more paying into the pot.

I don't have a TV, don't listen to RTE radio and don't use their web services. I don't see why should I now have to pay 200 quid a year for RTE.

handbagmad · 26-02-2013 06:56PM

apologies i didnt read the article:(. just asumed they were looking for more money.. it was meerly just a rant at the powers that be in general.

ScumLord · 26-02-2013 06:59PM

Victor wrote: »

I'm genuinely annoyed as the less than thought-out comments like this.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Television_licensing_in_the_United_Kingdom

http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/breaking/2012/0802/breaking24.html

TV3 provide one station, with little original content. RTÉ provide RTÉ1 & 2 and RTÉ Radio 1, RTÉ 2fm, RTÉ lyric fm, RTÉ Raidió na Gaeltachta, RTÉ Digital Radio (RTÉ Choice, RTÉ Gold, RTÉ Chill, RTÉ 2XM, RTÉ Pulse & RTÉjr). Not quite comparable.

Not quite comparable as RTE are operating as an independent business by selling ad space as well as expecting the people to prop up the failings in the way they do business. That RTE are losing money is RTEs fault. I don't watch RTE because there's nothing they make that I'd want to watch but I'm going to have to pay for it anyway so they can continue to make lazy TV. The open market should be forcing them to adapt instead our license fee allows them to wallow.

It's not like RTE is a cheap channel to advertise on either.You'll get much cheaper advertising packages on Satellite channels.

mikom · 26-02-2013 07:02PM

Just another one to dodge.
Bring it on fat gills.

Morgase · 26-02-2013 07:02PM

darjeeling wrote: »

I don't have a TV, don't listen to RTE radio and don't use their web services. I don't see why should I now have to pay 200 quid a year for RTE.

Same here. The whole thing smacks of "oh we won't get enough with the household charge, let's squeeze a bit more out of them".

smash · 26-02-2013 07:04PM

Victor wrote: »

RTÉ provide RTÉ1 & 2 and RTÉ Radio 1, RTÉ 2fm, RTÉ lyric fm, RTÉ Raidió na Gaeltachta, RTÉ Digital Radio (RTÉ Choice, RTÉ Gold, RTÉ Chill, RTÉ 2XM, RTÉ Pulse & RTÉjr). Not quite comparable.

I've only heard of 5 of these 'services'. I might use 2 of them on a very rare occasion.

3ndahalfof6 · 26-02-2013 07:05PM

Amuses much.

26-02-2013 07:13PM

Victor wrote: »

I'm genuinely annoyed as the less than thought-out comments like this.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Television_licensing_in_the_United_Kingdom

http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/breaking/2012/0802/breaking24.html

TV3 provide one station, with little original content. RTÉ provide RTÉ1 & 2 and RTÉ Radio 1, RTÉ 2fm, RTÉ lyric fm, RTÉ Raidió na Gaeltachta, RTÉ Digital Radio (RTÉ Choice, RTÉ Gold, RTÉ Chill, RTÉ 2XM, RTÉ Pulse & RTÉjr). Not quite comparable.

Would you have figures for the revenue RTE generate from advertising?

May be able to compare the quality of programming (RTE vs BBC) better if we know the total revenue generated.

BBC also has 5 main TV channels, then regional channels, numerous radio stations, world service, etc

Mint Sauce · 26-02-2013 07:14PM

darjeeling wrote: »

I don't have a TV, don't listen to RTE radio and don't use their web services. I don't see why should I now have to pay 200 quid a year for RTE.

Well my post wasn't directed at you, but to a poster who suggested they pay for it already.

I agree, that if you dont have a tv, or anyway of receving a TV signal, you should not be liable the current rate. Unfortunatly though, this is the governments attempt of recouping some of the payments missed from those who refused to pay the TV licence, regardless if you avail of RTEs services or not.

But just to add, the current licence fee is only between €150-160 a year. It unlikely this will be more.

JohnMarston · 26-02-2013 07:15PM

yop wrote: »

"this will not apply to those who we all pay for already" so people on dole, single mothers will continue to be immune from every charge.

People on the dole are not immune to the TV license charge, i assume this only applies to senior citizens

latenia · 26-02-2013 07:15PM

KyussBishop wrote: »

That would be a massive government subsidy to an outdated broadcaster copyright holders, and would be treating every Internet user as a subscriber criminal, making them pay whether or not they watched pirated anything.

How would it be a government subsidy when it need not even be operated by the government and it's really just a payment administrator-there are already royalties organisations for various art forms. It would just mean that the likes of HBO, AMC, small film makers etc would be getting my money for their product I consume and enjoy instead of RTE getting it for nothing.

Let's say I spend 1000 hours a year consuming media and the tax is €200-at the moment I watch RTE for about 50 hours a year so they would get €10.

van_beano · 26-02-2013 07:17PM

MidlandsM wrote: »

Well, I'm not one bit concerned.......

I have not paid my house hold charge ..

I have not paid my septic tank charge...

and I'm still alive and well, no one has come and burned my house down yet!

....so, I'll not be paying this new charge either.......

Sure no one's gonna come and burn your house down, Revenue will just take the household charge out of your income after July anyway . :eek:

stoneill · 26-02-2013 07:20PM

RTE are great!

humbert · 26-02-2013 07:28PM

I don't own a TV

mikeym · 26-02-2013 07:35PM

How much is this charge?

ressem · 26-02-2013 07:36PM

Damn them, next year is going to be a lean year.
Property charge added to rent. Water charges and this. Looks like internet at home will be next years luxury to go.

Will this tax be charged on all office space also?

van_beano · 26-02-2013 07:37PM

Rabbitte said it'd either be €160 or "could be less" so you can take it it'll be between €161 and €200!

Antar Bolaeisk · 26-02-2013 07:37PM

eviltwin wrote: »

Not everyone is eligible for property tax, this way they get everyone to pay. I'm hoping that means those of us who work aren't going to subsidise people on SW yet again.

You really think those not eligible for property tax will be charged a public service broadcast tax?

van_beano · 26-02-2013 07:38PM

ressem wrote: »

Damn them, next year is going to be a lean year.
Property charge added to rent. Water charges and this. Looks like internet at home will be next years luxury to go.

Will this tax be charged on all office space also?

If man can not have internet then it's definitely time for this country to have a long hard look at itself!

3ndahalfof6 · 26-02-2013 07:44PM

Well at least yis are all here moaning, on the forum, the politicans love it, let them shout their disgust in private while thinking it is out loud,

god forbid, they might get together in public and heckle us, "LOL, they would never have the balls, we shear them well".

JohnMarston · 26-02-2013 07:45PM

stoneill wrote: »

RTE are great!

Im all for a bit of humour in AH but you took it too far!

Chuck Stone · 26-02-2013 07:45PM

seamus wrote: »

I also don't understand why they pay to bring in US programmes. Most people have non-terrestrial channels. Let those channels carry the US programming, RTE should pump that money into Irish programmes, supporting Irish jobs and Irish talent.

They should only be allowed to spend the licence money on making home-grown TV/Radio. As you've said there's far too much duplication with UK TV.

humbert · 26-02-2013 07:46PM

3ndahalfof6 wrote: »

Well at least yis are all here moaning, on the forum, the politicans love it, let them shout their disgust in private while thinking it is out loud,

god forbid, they might get together in public and heckle us, "LOL, they would never have the balls, we sheer them well".

Still better than whinging on the internet about people whinging on the internet.

MadsL · 26-02-2013 07:49PM

The licencing fee also covers the Arts in the form of RTÉ National Symphony Orchestra, the RTÉ Concert Orchestra, the RTÉ Vanbrugh Quartet, the RTÉ Philharmonic Choir and RTÉ Cór na nÓg.

Why not scrap the whole TV aspect of this and have an Arts tax; and a national debate about if it is better to support 15 Irish composers and an orchestra than one Ryan Turbridy. Or 20 new Irish sculptors and a new music festival rather than one Gaybo.

If private industry want to provide entertainment for profit, so be it. But the licence fee should surely support the arts, not inflated salaries.

3ndahalfof6 · 26-02-2013 07:55PM

humbert wrote: »

Still better than whinging on the internet about people whinging on the internet.

Tis the problem, lets not really face those who need facing.

yosser hughes · 26-02-2013 08:00PM

Why should the state be involved in producing television or radio programmes? It's an outdated concept and more often than not these state entities exist for the benefit of its employees and their offspring who go on to work in the self same state entity.
Remove the fee entirely and let the market decide.

RTE's commitment to public service broadcasting is questionable to say the least. I am at a loss as to why it spends so much money on a sports department and pays six figure sums to pay panelists to comment on highlights of English soccer matches.

With regard the usual suspects Tubridy,Kenny,Duffy, Finucane etc. they should ALL be told they are no longer required. They are too expensive and RTE is losing millions every year.

MadsL · 26-02-2013 08:03PM

Just another point; if RTE needs funding, then why the funk are they not selling programs to the diaspora. The overseas availability of RTE is woeful, a handful of programs on RTE player - the likes of Primetime, the SixOne news and the Late Late.

Surely €3 a month subscriptions from the diaspora for streaming would help?

oppenheimer1 · 26-02-2013 08:04PM

Like in Greece, I imagine this charge will appear as a levy on electricity bills. There will be no way to avoid it, unless you want to have your power cut.

Before there are any changes to the licensing regime, there needs to be a public debate on the merits of RTE, its role in society and in particular, how it spends its money. RTE should also directly employ all its staff that present also, and let the state get some money back in PAYE.

wandatowell · 26-02-2013 08:06PM

So I can expect to pay money every year so Kathrine Lynch can prance about on tv???
You can **** right off Rabbit.

Broadcasting charge will be levied on every home in the country

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