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Daniel Day-Lewis: Irish or English??

  • 16-02-2013 08:07PM
    #1
    rox5
    Closed Accounts Posts: 272 ✭✭rox5


    I am sorry but are some Irish people complete idiots? (This is coming from an Irish person as well)

    http://www.independent.ie/opinion/comment/jason-obrien-daniel-daylewis-is-ours-and-you-cant-have-him-britain-28958382.html

    http://www.independent.ie/entertainment/movies/james-dempsey-why-we-should-give-daniel-day-lewis-some-peace-29023062.html

    I mean this guy has Irish blood in him from his father and even then his father is considered to be Anglo-Irish, as well as living in Wicklow, but that does not make him an Irishman. I love Daniel and his work, but I consider him to be an Englishman with deep love for Ireland. Hell, he even called himself an Englishman in one interview!

    I know Britain are no better themselves, for claming Saoirse Ronan and Michael Fassbender as British.

    But the thing is I have noticed that Ireland is the worse one for it. Like our Irish presenters are always saying stuff to celebs like "Have you enjoyed Ireland?" "I have heard you have Irish roots?" and so on. Then the celebs feel like they have to give a compliment, when for all we know they probably don't think much of Ireland. And if there is a hint of Irish blood, they always want to claim them. You would barely ever see American or British presenters (apart from what I stated above) doing this as much, so I find it very cringey. I mean one of the presenters from Xpose made a joke of claiming Tilda Swinton as Irish because of her red hair, there is not even irish blood in her!!! And Tilda got all awkward about it, which I am not surprised.

    I just don't get it because we already have fantastic Irish actors like Brendan Gleeson, Saoirse Ronan, Cillian Murphy, Jonathan Rhys Meyers, Michael Fassbender (I am aware that he has German blood in him though), Colin O'Donoghue, Sarah Bolger, etc, etc. yet instead of appreciating the talent we do have, Irish people seem to want claim anyone who might be Irish at award ceremonies like the Oscars and Baftas. We should appreaciate the fact that our Irish actors act for the craft, not to aim to get a lot of awards.

    Sorry for the rant, it's just that this whole claiming thing that Irish presenters and newspapers keep doing is just getting ridiculous now.


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  • #2
    super_furry
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,355 ✭✭✭✭super_furry


    Who cares?

    He'll always be the Christy Brown of my heart.


  • #3
    Where To
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,455 ✭✭✭Where To


    Are you saying he's Irish or English OP?

    I agree/disagree with you entirely


  • #4
    krudler
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,788 ✭✭✭✭krudler


    "have you Irish roots?" is the go to question on the Late Late show, you can't be expecting Tubridy to ask actual questions now do ya?


  • #5
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 25,611 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    This is going to end well.


  • #6
    barney 20v
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    West Brit??????


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  • #7
    1ZRed
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    Anyone else find this nationality talk so annoying? Who the fuk cares

    As far as I'm conserved you're whatever you think yourself


  • #8
    Madam
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,501 ✭✭✭Madam


    I don't really care and if he does his job well why should I? Kudos for Irish acting if we do claim him though(not that irish actors need it;)).


  • #9
    ITS_A_BADGER
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,232 ✭✭✭ITS_A_BADGER


    let him be wherever the fcuk he wants to be from, i dont get this countries claiming people thing, same thing is happening rory mcilroy


  • #10
    rednik
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    One thing for sure, he is a great actor.


  • #11
    el dude
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    Either way he's a tiny bit massively overrated a tad.


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  • #12
    chughes
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    Are we talking about the actor or the Dublin tram?


  • #13
    Madam
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    ITS_A_BADGER wrote: »
    let him be wherever the fcuk he wants to be from, i dont get this countries claiming people thing, same thing is happening rory mcilroy

    Not just Ireland tbf:)


  • #14
    Madam
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,501 ✭✭✭Madam


    el dude wrote: »
    Either way he's a tiny bit massively overrated a tad.

    Eh?:confused:


  • #15
    gallag
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    " Give the man a creamy pint of Guinness and a leprechaun costume, and let’s bathe in our shared-success of his likely Oscar success.But wait.The ‘Telegraph’ might then point to an interview with our Daniel a few years back when he talked about living here.“Yes, I do have dual citizenship, but I think of England as my country,” he said then.“I miss London very much but I couldn't live there because there came a time when I needed to be private and was forced to be public by the press. I couldn't deal with it.”Hmmm.Well, it’s well-known that Daniel is a little eccentric.What else would stop him from immediately jumping at the chance to be ‘fully’ Irish when given the opportunity? Sure who wouldn’t want to be Irish? Aren’t we great?"

    Ffs have some dignity man, ireland for such a small country has achieved many great things and people, from the arts to scientific discovery and always punching above its weight in sports, pains me to see an irish man continue the Guinness and leprechaun stereotype. Aren't we great? Who is this ass hat?


  • #16
    T-K-O
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,309 ✭✭✭T-K-O


    I wonder if he will represent us in the omlypic golf event


  • #17
    Madam
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    T-K-O wrote: »
    I wonder if he will represent us in the omlypic golf event

    You never know - perhaps the next gurning event(do they have that in Ireland?).


  • #18
    T-K-O
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    Madam wrote: »
    You never know - perhaps the next gurning event(do they have that in Ireland?).

    Do they what... I'm in training at the monent


  • #19
    Paco Rodriguez
    Closed Accounts Posts: 698 ✭✭✭Paco Rodriguez


    Michael Fassbender; English or German??


  • #20
    3ndahalfof6
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    WHy oh why do people let these type of things get under their skin, how is it going to change your life or how you live it, ohhh wait.


  • #21
    ITS_A_BADGER
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,232 ✭✭✭ITS_A_BADGER


    Madam wrote: »
    Not just Ireland tbf:)

    I never said its exclusive to ireland and britain, Im sure it goes on with all neighbouring countries that were at war at some stage, that have some celeb as a claim to fame and they both want to claim said celeb as belonging to their own country


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  • #22
    Eve_Dublin
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    English or Irish? He's the most rugged famous man on the planet - that's what!


  • #23
    My name is URL
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,261 ✭✭✭✭My name is URL


    He's both... has said so himself umpteen times and is a citizen of both countries. Always travels on an Irish passport though!

    Also, who gives a bollix?


  • #24
    Creasy_bear
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    el dude wrote: »
    Either way he's a tiny bit massively overrated a tad.

    + 1 The most overrated acter I think there's ever been. Christy brown/ gangs of New York/ there will be blood/ Lincoln. Close one eye and speak out the side of your mouth.

    Between himself and Pacino. Hate the two of them. Just because he has an Irish passport, it doesn't make him Irish.


  • #25
    gallag
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    He probaly worries more about which country would tax him more when deciding his home country.


  • #26
    T-K-O
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    Creasy_bear wrote: »
    + 1 The most overrated acter I think there's ever been. Christy brown/ gangs of New York/ there will be blood/ Lincoln. Close one eye and speak out the side of your mouth.

    Between himself and Pacino. Hate the two of them.

    The fact you mention DDL in the same breath as Pacino renders this post insane.


  • #27
    sully2010
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    Creasy_bear wrote: »
    + 1 The most overrated acter I think there's ever been. Christy brown/ gangs of New York/ there will be blood/ Lincoln. Close one eye and speak out the side of your mouth.

    Between himself and Pacino. Hate the two of them. Just because he has an Irish passport, it doesn't make him Irish.

    What would be your preferred actors if you think those two are overrated? Apart from the fact Day Lewis is probably going to be the first male actor ever to get 3 oscars he is without doubt one of the best character actors ever and in interviews he comes across as an extremely down to earth person.

    Each to their own I suppose.


  • #28
    4zn76tysfajdxp
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    Creasy_bear wrote: »
    Just because he has an Irish passport, it doesn't make him Irish.

    It kind of does...


  • #29
    sully2010
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 599 ✭✭✭sully2010


    Aryanna Loose Public wrote: »
    It kind of does...

    Well he has an Irish and a British passport, which technically means 50/50. But his heart seems to be in Ireland so id go with Irish;)


  • #30
    rox5
    Closed Accounts Posts: 272 ✭✭rox5


    chughes wrote: »
    Are we talking about the actor or the Dublin tram?

    Are you serious?


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  • #31
    Creasy_bear
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,609 ✭✭✭Creasy_bear


    sully2010 wrote: »

    What would be your preferred actors if you think those two are overrated? Apart from the fact Day Lewis is probably going to be the first male actor ever to get 3 oscars he is without doubt one of the best character actors ever and in interviews he comes across as an extremely down to earth person.

    Each to their own I suppose.

    Exactly, each to there own. I like Penn, Norton, Washington. Not people who just seem to use the same facial expressions in every movie.


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