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why do people use 1m reasons to not protest instead of 1 decision to do it??

  • 09-02-2013 09:35PM
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 559 ✭✭✭


    one analogy I've come up with from attending too many failed protests and hearing peoples excuses for not attending after is, it's a bit like the alcoholic who will use a multitude of reasons to keep drinking instead of making one decision to just do the right thing


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,971 ✭✭✭Sh1tbag OToole


    Apathy and an Irish culture of complaining behind closed doors but nobody wants to be seen "making a show of themselves" at a bloody protest. Also the weather will most likely be bad on the day of the protest further reducing the turnout


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,779 ✭✭✭✭Princess Consuela Bananahammock


    Because on some level, the Irish move misery.

    Everything I don't like is either woke or fascist - possibly both - pick one.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,184 ✭✭✭3ndahalfof6


    Its not far enough, do I win a prize, that is all.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,971 ✭✭✭Sh1tbag OToole


    Ikky Poo2 wrote: »
    Because on some level, the Irish move misery.

    Its a pity they wouldn't start exporting it instead of just moving it around their own country


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,968 ✭✭✭✭Praetorian Saighdiuir


    If we have nothing to complain about, we won't be happy.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,453 ✭✭✭Shenshen


    I'll attend a protest when I feel there is an issue that needs attention.

    What's your point?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 284 ✭✭HTML5!


    Protesting is for people who can't roll with the punches. :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,327 ✭✭✭Madam_X


    G Power wrote: »
    one analogy I've come up with from attending too many failed protests and hearing peoples excuses for not attending after is, it's a bit like the alcoholic who will use a multitude of reasons to keep drinking instead of making one decision to just do the right thing
    Their lives are ok overall so they don't feel angered enough to attend.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,390 ✭✭✭IM0


    they are being nice, you should hear the undertone of what they are saying as "Im not going to protest because its only the uninformed who know nothing about how economies work ect and those naieve to politics that go to these things"


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,779 ✭✭✭✭Princess Consuela Bananahammock


    HTML5! wrote: »
    Protesting is for people who can't roll with the punches. :D

    Enda...?

    Everything I don't like is either woke or fascist - possibly both - pick one.



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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 559 ✭✭✭G Power


    Shenshen wrote: »
    I'll attend a protest when I feel there is an issue that needs attention.

    What's your point?

    so there's not been one protest in ireland that you'd agree with??


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 9,423 ✭✭✭cml387


    G Power wrote: »
    one analogy I've come up with from attending too many failed protests and hearing peoples excuses for not attending after is, it's a bit like the alcoholic who will use a multitude of reasons to keep drinking instead of making one decision to just do the right thing

    Insanity is defined doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results. Maybe it's...you


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,775 ✭✭✭Death and Taxes


    Protest for what? so the looney left Eirigi/ULA/PBP/SF can claim my support....Dafuq I will, they are a bigger threat to this country than all the bankers,politicans, and developers added together.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 559 ✭✭✭G Power


    Madam_X wrote: »
    Their lives are ok overall so they don't feel angered enough to attend.

    but i regularly chat with a cross section of society who will tell me everything is ok for them at the moment yet a scary amount of times on closer inspection with the person most admit things aren't as great as they've been trying to convince themselves they are.

    again, denial is not just a river in Egypt :eek::eek:


  • Posts: 25,909 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    G Power wrote: »
    but i regularly chat with a cross section of society who will tell me everything is ok for them at the moment yet a scary amount of times on closer inspection with the person most admit things aren't as great as they've been trying to convince themselves they are.

    again, denial is not just a river in Egypt :eek::eek:
    I find the opposite funnily enough. In finance terms anyway.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,997 ✭✭✭Adyx


    G Power wrote: »
    one analogy I've come up with from attending too many failed protests and hearing peoples excuses for not attending after is, it's a bit like the alcoholic who will use a multitude of reasons to keep drinking instead of making one decision to just do the right thing
    I only need one reason not to protest - I just don't fcuking care.

    I actually attended a protest once organised by the WIT Students Union, I haven't a clue what it was about - I thought we were going drinking. :mad:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,626 ✭✭✭✭My name is URL


    G Power wrote: »
    one analogy I've come up with from attending too many failed protests and hearing peoples excuses for not attending after is, it's a bit like the alcoholic who will use a multitude of reasons to keep drinking instead of making one decision to just do the right thing

    I think you're making the mistake of assuming that just because you feel angry and fed up; that everyone else must too.

    The truth is that most people just aren't all that bothered with what happens outside of their own little bubbles.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 559 ✭✭✭G Power


    Protest for what? so the looney left Eirigi/ULA/PBP/SF can claim my support....Dafuq I will, they are a bigger threat to this country than all the bankers,politicans, and developers added together.

    so have you been to any protest at all?? what about the abortion issue? women are left to die unnecessarily in front of doctors eyes here due to none of us caring enough in the last 20 years to force the government to legislate for abortion.

    the list is endless as to why we should hit the streets but none of them are good enough for the majority to be bothered every single time


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,779 ✭✭✭✭Princess Consuela Bananahammock


    Its a pity they wouldn't start exporting it instead of just moving it around their own country


    Think you need to ask these, eh, happy little campers...
    Protest for what? so the looney left Eirigi/ULA/PBP/SF can claim my support....Dafuq I will, they are a bigger threat to this country than all the bankers,politicans, and developers added together.
    HTML5! wrote: »
    Protesting is for people who can't roll with the punches. :D
    Shenshen wrote: »
    I'll attend a protest when I feel there is an issue that needs attention.

    What's your point?

    Everything I don't like is either woke or fascist - possibly both - pick one.



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 559 ✭✭✭G Power


    Adyx wrote: »
    I only need one reason not to protest - I just don't fcuking care.

    I actually attended a protest once organised by the WIT Students Union, I haven't a clue what it was about - I thought we were going drinking. :mad:

    thanks a million for your input :rolleyes:


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 559 ✭✭✭G Power


    I find the opposite funnily enough. In finance terms anyway.

    so, how are every single one of your family, friends, neighbours etc doing?? be honest with yourself, write all their names down and really look at their situations. are you that selfish that you will watch so so many suffer and not give a **** simply because you yourself are one of the lucky ones??


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,453 ✭✭✭Shenshen


    G Power wrote: »
    so there's not been one protest in ireland that you'd agree with??

    I did attend one a while back to try and get abortion legalised.

    Other than that, no.


  • Posts: 25,909 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    G Power wrote: »
    so, how are every single one of your family, friends, neighbours etc doing?? be honest with yourself, write all their names down and really look at their situations. are you that selfish that you will watch so so many suffer and not give a **** simply because you yourself are one of the lucky ones??

    Sorry, you're right, they're all just waiting on rope to be cheap in Aldi and Lidl again so they can afford to hang themselves. Everyone is completely ruined.
    The reason there were so few protesting today is that for a large proportion of people things are pretty much fine. I know that that's not a popular narrative among a lot of people but it's true.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 9,423 ✭✭✭cml387


    G Power wrote: »
    so, how are every single one of your family, friends, neighbours etc doing?? be honest with yourself, write all their names down and really look at their situations. are you that selfish that you will watch so so many suffer and not give a **** simply because you yourself are one of the lucky ones??


    I know absolutely nobody who is suffering hardship as a result of the recession. I do know of people who are suffering because they can no longer take two holidays a year, or had to sell a car.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,997 ✭✭✭Adyx


    G Power wrote: »
    thanks a million for your input :rolleyes:
    Thanks a million for the time-wasting, hand-wringing, rhetoric and traffic disruption.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,971 ✭✭✭Sh1tbag OToole


    cml387 wrote: »
    I know absolutely nobody who is suffering hardship as a result of the recession. I do know of people who are suffering because they can no longer take two holidays a year, or had to sell a car.

    You should look harder because those people are definitely around.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 90 ✭✭Absolutezero


    I didn't go today because Its my first day off in ages and I wanted to see Lincoln before it finished in the cinema. It would mean an hours travel to and back from a venue. That's just the practicality of it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,390 ✭✭✭IM0


    is it called a continuation thread if the other one is still going..


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,775 ✭✭✭Death and Taxes


    G Power wrote: »
    so have you been to any protest at all?? what about the abortion issue? women are left to die unnecessarily in front of doctors eyes here due to none of us caring enough in the last 20 years to force the government to legislate for abortion.

    the list is endless as to why we should hit the streets but none of them are good enough for the majority to be bothered every single time

    Show me your evidence that a protest has ever changed government policy in Ireland, answer never!
    Hundreds of thousands marched in the late 70's over paye rates, wasted their time, over 100,000 marched in opposition to the Iraq war, fuq all affect on government policy.
    Marches in this country are just an opportunity for extremists like Eirigi,SF,SIPTU and their likes to claim public support.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,167 ✭✭✭Fr_Dougal


    25,000 Trade Union members marched in Dublin today. Be janey it looks as if they aren't going to be a pushover in these Croke Park negotiations.


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