Mayo GAA Discussion Thread

tacofries · 04-02-2013 12:22PM

yop wrote: »

For all the money pumped into McHale park (elverys I know ), but no time on the scoreboard, then the one on McHale road when tits up during the 2nd half and as for the PA system!

in fairness, compared to the superbowl only an insignificant fraction of money was spent on mchale park, yet superbowl had serious problems hahaha :P

the scoreboard not showing the time is annoying alright though!!

yop · 04-02-2013 12:57PM

tacofries wrote: »

in fairness, compared to the superbowl only an insignificant fraction of money was spent on mchale park, yet superbowl had serious problems hahaha :P

the scoreboard not showing the time is annoying alright though!!

Lights out, I was still only recovering from Beyone and them thighs and booty!!!!!

davegrohl48 · 05-02-2013 01:03PM

Who can be the option of a big target man at full forward?
- Freeman
- COS
- SOS
I think Aidan OShea is at this stage proven at midfield.
I'm not sure Barry Moran has the playmaking ability. I'v never seen him display it to any great degree from full forward.

I think it would help likes of Conroy to be able to come onto a simple loop pass from a full forward. The type of scores Donaghy/Gooch used to work.
Corner forward comes around on the loop to a simple handpass out in front. Pops it over the bar from 20 yards.

WesternZulu · 05-02-2013 01:53PM

davegrohl48 wrote: »

Who can be the option of a big target man at full forward?
- Freeman
- COS
- SOS
I think Aidan OShea is at this stage proven at midfield.
I'm not sure Barry Moran has the playmaking ability. I'v never seen him display it to any great degree from full forward.

I think it would help likes of Conroy to be able to come onto a simple loop pass from a full forward. The type of scores Donaghy/Gooch used to work.
Corner forward comes around on the loop to a simple handpass out in front. Pops it over the bar from 20 yards.

I wouldn't let AOS or Barry Moran near the FF position. I think they have got a good partnership going in midfield and to break that up would be a cardinal sin.

Anyway Moran was tried in FF a few years ago and he offered nothing in the role and it seemed to seep his confidence a bit.

I would be interested to see what COS would be like in there.

davegrohl48 · 05-02-2013 02:26PM

WesternZulu wrote: »

I wouldn't let AOS or Barry Moran near the FF position. I think they have got a good partnership going in midfield and to break that up would be a cardinal sin.

Anyway Moran was tried in FF a few years ago and he offered nothing in the role and it seemed to seep his confidence a bit.

I would be interested to see what COS would be like in there.

Agreed on that he is young and could be developed had decent size naturally. Good training regime could make him very effective. Seems a decent footballer for a big man too. I'd be more interested in a target man who can gain posession and can lay it off. We've been falling short of that.
It's also a type of teamwork play that can be practiced in training. Can result in a few points a game, goals as well.

SomethingElse · 05-02-2013 03:47PM

WesternZulu wrote: »

I wouldn't let AOS or Barry Moran near the FF position. I think they have got a good partnership going in midfield and to break that up would be a cardinal sin.

Anyway Moran was tried in FF a few years ago and he offered nothing in the role and it seemed to seep his confidence a bit.

I would be interested to see what COS would be like in there.

He actually played very well in there in 2007 in my opinion. In the defeat to Derry he was probably the only player who put in a strong shift in the forwards. Breaking up his partnership with O'Shea may be problematic going forward for Mayo, but there is a line of thinking that Horan will partner Aidan O'Shea with a more mobile midfielder. If this does happen with potentially Jason Gibbons or Seamus O'Shea taking Barry's place at midfield, then we may very well not have seen the last of Moran being deployed at full forward.

Panrich · 06-02-2013 05:30PM

His last game at starting at FF also worked out well in the 12 point beating of Dublin last year in the league.

wirelessdude01 · 06-02-2013 10:51PM

Any other league game fixed for Croker along with the Dublin game?

eastmayo · 06-02-2013 11:58PM

wirelessdude01 wrote: »

Any other league game fixed for Croker along with the Dublin game?

No other league game with the dub v mayo match...think there is some comoge match on befour our game.

keane2097 · 08-02-2013 03:54PM

Little preview one of the lads did up on Mayo for the season ahead here if ye're interested lads:

http://www.livegaelic.com/features/mayo-football-a-season-preview-for-2013/

manofwisdom · 08-02-2013 06:52PM

keane2097 wrote: »

Little preview one of the lads did up on Mayo for the season ahead here if ye're interested lads:

http://www.livegaelic.com/features/mayo-football-a-season-preview-for-2013/

Isn't Dillon 30 Andy Moran 29 now? Cafferkey,Higgins; C Barrett, T Cunniffe,Boyle; S O'Shea, B Moran,M Conroy,Varley etc were all part of the 2006 U21 All Ireland winning team making most of them 26-27 now. Conor O'Shea,O'Connor,Regan etc will lower the average age of the panel however, most of Mayo's key players are at their peak age.

keane2097 · 08-02-2013 06:54PM

manofwisdom wrote: »

Isn't Dillon 30 Andy Moran 29 now? Cafferkey,Higgins; C Barrett, T Cunniffe,Boyle; S O'Shea, B Moran,M Conroy,Varley etc were all part of the 2006 U21 All Ireland winning team making most of them 26-27 now. Conor O'Shea,O'Connor,Regan etc will lower the average age of the panel however, most of Mayo's key players are at their peak age.

Dillon was born in '84 as far as I know which makes him 28/29. I didn't write that particular article so you may well be right.

Panrich · 08-02-2013 07:51PM

manofwisdom wrote: »

Isn't Dillon 30 Andy Moran 29 now? Cafferkey,Higgins; C Barrett, T Cunniffe,Boyle; S O'Shea, B Moran,M Conroy,Varley etc were all part of the 2006 U21 All Ireland winning team making most of them 26-27 now. Conor O'Shea,O'Connor,Regan etc will lower the average age of the panel however, most of Mayo's key players are at their peak age.

Cafferkey, Cunniffe, Barrett and O'Shea were on the U21 team of 06 and were only a year out of minor so they are all 26 this year. B Moran would be 27 this year, Conroy 28. Dillon would be 31 this year as he was u21 in 2003 and A Moran will be 30 as he was on the 2004 team.

Caiseoipe19 · 09-02-2013 02:27AM

yop wrote: »

Colm Boyle came into the side, it was hard to gauge who actually took his position, I think Feeney seemed to cover it.

I would actually have Feeney in there in the backs instead of Vaughan, when we have Dillon back then that could move Richie back. Vaughan was our weakest link last season, too many fumbles which we didn't need. He may have had a bad run of it but if Cunniffe can keep his progression then Vaughan will be under pressure.

Aye, I saw Colm Boyle was brought in but wasn't sure if they'd move him out the wing to his regular position and one of the other lads move into the centre. Gin by the team named for Sunday, they are willing to try him out in the centre though! Kevin Keane in for Shane McHale the only change. Cathal Freeman getting another run at wing-forward.

Team names, courtesy of MayoGAA on facebook:
1) David Clarke - Ballina Stephenites (Capt.)
2) Kevin Keane - Westport
3) Ger Cafferkey - Ballina Stephenites
4) Keith Higgins - Ballyhaunis
5) Tom Cunniffe - Castlebar Mitchels
6) Colm Boyle - Davitts
7) Chris Barrett - Belmullet
8) Aidan O'Shea - Breaffy
9) Seamus O'Shea - Breaffy
10) Lee Keegan - Westport
11) Richie Feeney - Castlebar Mitchels
12) Cathal Freeman - Aghamore
13) Kevin McLoughlin - Knockmore
14) Jason Doherty - Burrishoole
15) Michael Conroy - Davitts

davegrohl48 · 10-02-2013 12:53AM

Interesting to see how Colm Boyle goes at centre back. He's pacy and a decent passer of the ball. If we can sort out that position we will have one of the better defences around.
Mayo will have four converted defenders upfront!! Keegan, Feeney, C. Freeman and McGloughlin. I'm assuming McGloughlin is just given licence to roam out to half forward. I can't see him winning tight ball 1 on 1 in the corner. He's usually much better roaming around the middle.
Saying all of that Tyrone could be a big shock to the system for some of the more inexperienced players. There is a myth that Tyrone are a bit past it, they have plenty good young players coming through.

Barlett · 10-02-2013 04:51PM

A frustrating performance, had loads of the ball but kept handpassing it around, exactly what Tyrone wanted. They only played direct in the first and last 10 minutes of the game. Still was expecting a few flat league performances...big test in Croke Park next.

Fr Tod Umptious · 10-02-2013 05:07PM

That's a pain, 4 PTS before heading to Dublin would have been great.

Fowler87 · 10-02-2013 05:17PM

Real sickener to lose that after a great comeback. What a goal from Higgins, came out of nowhere! Very below par performance overall though which is strange considering we bossed midfield and full back line were good . Alot of work to do for Dublin. Championship buzz felt in those last 10 mins

ColeTrain · 10-02-2013 06:22PM

Hard to know what to make of that game. We done well for the first 10 minutes and the last 10 but were very ordinary besides. Tyrone kicked some good scores in the 2nd half whereas we struggled with our shooting. We found it hard to break them down and lacked ideas. Conroy, Higgins and AOS were probably our best. Also good to see Dillon return.

Fowler87 wrote: »

Real sickener to lose that after a great comeback. What a goal from Higgins, came out of nowhere! Very below par performance overall though which is strange considering we bossed midfield and full back line were good . Alot of work to do for Dublin. Championship buzz felt in those last 10 mins

Yeah it was exciting stuff at the end! It was some turn around. I'd say there was a few who missed our late revival, there was a lot leaving with 5 mins left plus added time. I didn't get a clear look at the penalty but in fairness to the ref he gave us a chance for the equaliser and Vaughan had to take it on but was unlucky. A draw would have been fair in the end but what can you do.

Always_Running · 10-02-2013 08:37PM

Having played poorly for 60 minutes Mayo were within seconds of beating Tyrone at their defensive best and that has to encouraging. The half backs in the half forward line isn't working Varley,Dillon,O'Connor should all start the next game and Barry Moran,Aidan O'Shea is still the better midfield pairing than the two O'Sheas.

I think the penalty was probably the right call.

Defiler Of The Coffin · 10-02-2013 08:40PM

Very disappointed but that's how it goes sometimes. At least we weren't badly beaten. We'll need to up the ante for the Dubs, they are on a high now

GBXI · 10-02-2013 08:46PM

Always_Running wrote: »

Having played poorly for 60 minutes Mayo were within seconds of beating Tyrone at their defensive best and that has to encouraging. The half backs in the half forward line isn't working Varley,Dillon,O'Connor should all start the next game and Barry Moran,Aidan O'Shea is still the better midfield pairing than the two O'Sheas.

I think the penalty was probably the right call.

Yeah there are positives to be taken for sure. I think it's clear enough Mayo are the better team but Tyrone played very well today and mayo found it awful hard to break them down.

Barry Moran was excellent in the 2nd half and no doubt is the man to partner Aidan at mid-field. We still miss Andy, Alan, and Cillian for their ball winning ability in the ff line.

I expect us to give the Dubs a good game, especially if Dillon starts.

tacofries · 10-02-2013 10:30PM

Well we lost but for me that doesn't matter.

With this match I wanted to see if we had a team that has the ability to win Sam. And with this match I have come to the conclusion that we could do it if we fixed some parts of the team.

Mcloughlin is wasted in ff,... half forward suits him way more. Keegan is not a ff or even a hf. He just doesnt have the vision for it. He's a back and always will be.Kevin Keane isn't strong enough at the moment in my opinion, he let his marker roam free for a lot of the first half. If he was more disciplined and stuck closer to his man he would be a great defender but just gives them too much room. Doherty had a decent game but his free taking looked way too casual. At one stage he barely looked at the goal before he kicked the ball, ultimately sending it wide. Also conroy was left so unused today. There were so many times when conroy had broke away from his marker and was absolutely screaming for the ball but too no avail!

A lot of these criticisms are positive in a way as they can be fixed with a bit of re-jigging and discipline. Couple that with good passing (awful passes today for a long period of the game) into the half forwards and full forwards and we have a brilliant team! For those last ten minutes we absolutely dominated the game, and if we can do it for ten minutes we can do it for 75.

Great to see the atmosphere in mchale park and I thought the music at half time was a great bonus to keep the buzz going. Great match to be at and I am very hopefull of whats to come!

yop · 11-02-2013 12:53AM

Agree with Tacofries there, speaking to the other 2 "amigos" with me who trot to everything that involves a Mayo jersey and the conclusions are the same.
McLoughlin, who was close to been player of the year last season, taken out of his position and lost in the corner. Hence why we seemed to lose so much breaking ball.
Keegan, took a nice score, totally out of his depth besides.
Barratt, ok he needs his chances, but himself and Cunniffe are not there yet, BUT I remember Richie Feeney and he seemed like a rabbit in headlights, in fairness to him he is nearly our most consistent performer now.
Keane, only back to needs time, a shocking lack of pace though. Time will tell.
Freeman, I might be harsh here, but did he do anything in the last 2 games?
DOC and Conroy, tore Tyrone to strips but I think the change of tact in the rest of the game to this over passing (or non passing at times), negated their potency.

Ok, it was pissng off today, you have to win your games at home, Tyrone are on a rebuild, we should be an 80% project and looking at tweaks. Nothing seemed to go right for us today. It will take the cockiness out of now after last weeks Kerry win, a team who went 56 minutes today at home without a score.

I think Horan has had a chance to experiment, personally I think its failed, get back to the "old" system and tweak what didn't work last year.
I still think centre half back isn't resolved. Should we look at have Richie there all the time, with McLoughs in the centre forward position, they would be like 2 hoovers!!!!

Anyway, we will see how it goes, made it a little harder to achieve ensuring our Div 1 status.

Onwards and upwards.

NabyLadistheman · 11-02-2013 02:03PM

I think Horan is just protecting Kevin Mc by playing him inside for a few league games. No doubt in my mind that he will be brought out for the bigger tests ahead. It's a long year and he doesn't need him picking up any unnecessary injuries.

We fell into the trap tactically yesterday against a very typical Tyrone defensive set-up. Christ there was stages in the second half there were 2 people marking Doc & Conroy. Torturous for any inside forward against that system. Eventually our defense pushed up and we got the goal. Thought Vaughan looked sharp when he came on & should possibly have gone for goal when he got the equalizer.

I agree with the consensus that the Keegan experiment has not worked. It's a shame as we really do have an abundance of wing-backs who can do a job there. Barrett, Cunniffe, Feeney, Vaughan, Boyle all in the shake-up.

Keane looked very immobile for me yesterday. Like a man that has had a bit to much of the gym over the winter. Hopefully he was just a bit rusty yesterday it as we need his physicaly in defense.

eljoker · 11-02-2013 03:51PM

I was a Mayo fan a few years ago but after years hoping they would win in Croker i have given up. Chokers big time. No neutral supports them anymore

Fowler87 · 11-02-2013 05:09PM

eljoker wrote: »

I was a Mayo fan a few years ago but after years hoping they would win in Croker i have given up. Chokers big time. No neutral supports them anymore

That's a killer blow to our hopes this year now

NabyLadistheman · 11-02-2013 05:11PM

eljoker wrote: »

I was a Mayo fan a few years ago but after years hoping they would win in Croker i have given up. Chokers big time. No neutral supports them anymore

Ya coz Mayo haven't won in Croker in years!! Thanks for your nugget of wisedom

ColeTrain · 11-02-2013 05:11PM

eljoker wrote: »

I was a Mayo fan a few years ago but after years hoping they would win in Croker i have given up. Chokers big time. No neutral supports them anymore

Good, we don't want clowns in our support

davegrohl48 · 11-02-2013 06:23PM

Surely it's time to move Lee Keegan to centre back? He was our most valuable half back last year. Has the size, hands, stopping ability, good counter attacker. If not going so well at half forward seems a natural move.

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