Graphic new warnings for cigarette packages

ronaneire · 01-02-2013 09:22AM #1

http://www.rte.ie/news/2013/0201/365592-graphic-new-warnings-for-cigarette-packages/

From today, all cigarette packets produced for the Irish market will carry graphic photographs with a strong health warning.
The images depict the negative health impacts associated with smoking.
The warnings follow other legislative measures to tackle smoking in recent years, including the ban on the display and advertising of tobacco products in shops.
Minister for Health James Reilly said he hopes the pictures will shock smokers into quitting and prevent young people from taking up the habit.

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The Minister sure looks excited!

SmilingLurker · 01-02-2013 09:24AM

Hope it works, but I doubt it.

RossFixxxed · 01-02-2013 09:27AM

I heard on the radio that many studies showed that this was effective... I was under the impression that anti SMOKing ads don't stop SMOKErs from SMOKING at all and if anything increase the urge to SMOKE as all it does is put the idea of SMOKE in your smoke smoke.

Is there any evidence as to the validity of this idea? Or are they blowing smoke up my smoke.

ARE YOU SMOKING YET?

Dravokivich · 01-02-2013 09:28AM

I think it's crazy myself. Educated choice is what it's down to. Everyone's already been told what it can do. All forms of advertising have been removed. You cant even show the damn things on the shelves.

From what I saw, this is targeted towards putting kids off cigarettes, why don't they just start fining shops that sell'em to kids? The govenement would make a fúck tonne of money off that, instead of chasing some crazy shít like this.

Death and Taxes · 01-02-2013 09:28AM

Someone will make a fortune selling cigeratte pack holders with "Smoking makes me happy" on them!:D

CardBordWindow · 01-02-2013 09:30AM

My missus is a smoker, and when we were on holidays in Oz, where these graphic warnings are already in place, she smoked much less as she hated looking at the boxes.
It won't effect a lot of people, but if it helps some people cut down, I'm all for it.

kneemos · 01-02-2013 09:30AM

I can't look at that ad with the cigerette tumor and I don't even smoke anymore.

spoonfed · 01-02-2013 09:44AM

Why does the government not make all tobacco products illegal if they are so harmful?

BluesBerry · 01-02-2013 09:47AM

im just going to buy a nice sparkly cigarette holder

Government can put that in their pipe and smoke it!

BluesBerry · 01-02-2013 09:48AM

spoonfed wrote: »

Why does the government not make all tobacco products illegal if they are so harmful?

because the make a fortune of them

RossFixxxed · 01-02-2013 09:48AM

spoonfed wrote: »

Why does the government not make all tobacco products illegal if they are so harmful?

Money I would imagine. 9.30 for a pack of cigarettes is a LOT of tax. And it is highly addictive. Addictive Tax!

It makes a lot of the 'helping people quit' seem very hypocritical.

mightdomighty · 01-02-2013 09:50AM

Dravokivich wrote: »

I think it's crazy myself. Educated choice is what it's down to. Everyone's already been told what it can do.

Just because people have been told what it can do doesn't mean they make an educated choice.

Dravokivich wrote: »

why don't they just start fining shops that sell'em to kids? The govenement would make a fúck tonne of money off that, instead of chasing some crazy shít like this.

This is already in place but I would imagine it's difficult to enforce and is hardly effective.

I don't see anything wrong with tackling it from multiple angles.

Mr Simpson · 01-02-2013 09:53AM

Will they ever fcuk off. I'm perfectly aware off the dangers of smoking, but its my choice, and I enjoy cigarettes. The pictures won't put me off anything but my dinner

Dtp79 · 01-02-2013 09:54AM

spoonfed wrote: »

Why does the government not make all tobacco products illegal if they are so harmful?

Cause they make too much on the tax from them

Banjo String · 01-02-2013 09:55AM

they should start showing graphic porn images on them.

hands be too busy to smoke then.

Czarcasm · 01-02-2013 09:55AM

It'll really depend on your sensitivity to graphic imagery. After a while you'll become accustomed to the black lungs, the grey brains, the clapped out heart, etc.

If they REALLY wanted to shock people into quitting, never mind the graphic imagery nonsense, just print the price of them in nice big lettering on the front. Then it'll be hard to miss you're paying the guts of €10 a pack, every time you look at the pack, at least 20 times!

Sometimes I do indeed feel like a right tit that I'm paying €10 a pack for the damn things, but I'm well aware of the down sides and for me cigarettes are a luxury I still happen to enjoy and shall continue to do so for the foreseeable.

The only thing that might change that point of view is from a price perspective. The health risks associated with smoking do not bother me as much as the guaranteed financial losses due to ever increasing prices.

smash · 01-02-2013 09:57AM

ronaneire wrote: »

Minister for Health James Reilly said he hopes the pictures will shock smokers into quitting and prevent young people from taking up the habit.

If they were really that worried then they'd have put the price up more in the budget.

KTRIC · 01-02-2013 09:59AM

Set a minimum price to €10 and then put the price up by €1 every year without fail. Also set a mandatory minimum jail sentence for anyone caught distributing illegally imported cigarettes. This'll eventually put a stop to the whole thing.

FloatingVoter · 01-02-2013 10:01AM

KTRIC wrote: »

Set a minimum price to €10 and then put the price up by €1 every year without fail. Also set a mandatory minimum jail sentence for anyone caught distributing illegally imported cigarettes. This'll eventually put a stop to the whole thing.

Yeah, tough jail sentences helped win the War on Drugs. Personally, I like the droopy cigarette - reminds me of my own little man.

kneemos · 01-02-2013 10:03AM

MarkMc wrote: »

Will they ever fcuk off. I'm perfectly aware off the dangers of smoking, but its my choice, and I enjoy cigarettes. The pictures won't put me off anything but my dinner

The "enjoyment"comes from topping up the addictive chemicals and feeding the habit of having a cigerette in your hand.

Mr Simpson · 01-02-2013 10:08AM

kneemos wrote: »

The "enjoyment"comes from topping up the addictive chemicals and feeding the habit of having a cigerette in your hand.

yeah thanks for that, I'm perfectly aware of that. Some people enjoy having a pint, me, I prefer having a cigarette, thats my fcuking choice.

Meangadh · 01-02-2013 10:10AM

I suppose it saves even a small number of lives it'll be worth it. I think the HSE could do way more though in terms of education in schools, raising awareness of the implications of smoking.

I've been teaching 9 years and no one has ever come to speak to students about how bad smoking is. Of course teachers warn them, but firstly we're not experts in that area, and also the students are far more receptive listening to a stranger when it comes to receiving information like that.

Just makes way more sense to stop the problem before it begins when people are young. All I know is that I am so grateful I never began smoking, so I never had to deal with trying to quit. Getting people to never start is the answer, and whilst you won't stop them all, at least awareness at a young age is a step forward.

Ush1 · 01-02-2013 10:11AM

I just think it's a bit silly. People know smoking is bad for them and if the government was that concerned, ban them!

Na na, too much money to be made taxing them.

Czarcasm · 01-02-2013 10:12AM

KTRIC wrote: »

Set a minimum price to €10 and then put the price up by €1 every year without fail.

The only thing about that is, that you'll increase the chances of people turning to illegally imported cigarettes, and honestly at half the price, they are an extremely attractive option.

Now the other thing I'm seeing a lot lately is your average person themselves flying over to countries like Poland and Spain and picking up a stock of cigarettes for half the price they pay here, and still they've made savings, even with the flights included!

Also set a mandatory minimum jail sentence for anyone caught distributing illegally imported cigarettes. This'll eventually put a stop to the whole thing.

It wouldn't really. As long as there's a nice bit of money to be made in the illegal cigarette trade, these illegal importers will continue to take the risks they do. None of them do it with the intention of getting caught, and like garlic guy, there's only so much of a mandatory sentence you can impose before they're out and at it again.

spoonfed · 01-02-2013 10:13AM

BluesBerry wrote: »

because the make a fortune of them

Exactly, they're all just a bunch of selfish, hypocritical cunt5. They can go to fu.ck with their silly little photos. I've seen much worse in my first 5 minutes on the internet. CUNT5

smash · 01-02-2013 10:17AM

spoonfed wrote: »

Exactly, they're all just a bunch of selfish, hypocritical cunt5. They can go to fu.ck with their silly little photos. I've seen much worse in my first 5 minutes on the internet. CUNT5

You're an angry little man aren't you!

Czarcasm · 01-02-2013 10:18AM

spoonfed wrote: »

Exactly, they're all just a bunch of selfish, hypocritical cunt5. They can go to fu.ck with their silly little photos. I've seen much worse in my first 5 minutes on the internet. CUNT5

spoonfed we're talking about tobacco now, I think when you start answering yourself you're on about a whole other wacky tobacco altogether!

kneemos · 01-02-2013 10:21AM

MarkMc wrote: »

yeah thanks for that, I'm perfectly aware of that. Some people enjoy having a pint, me, I prefer having a cigarette, thats my fcuking choice.

Nobody's chasing you bud,steady.

pickarooney · 01-02-2013 10:25AM

Czarcasm wrote: »

It'll really depend on your sensitivity to graphic imagery. After a while you'll become accustomed to the black lungs, the grey brains, the clapped out heart, etc.

If they REALLY wanted to shock people into quitting, never mind the graphic imagery nonsense, just print the price of them in nice big lettering on the front. Then it'll be hard to miss you're paying the guts of €10 a pack, every time you look at the pack, at least 20 times!

Sometimes I do indeed feel like a right tit that I'm paying €10 a pack for the damn things, but I'm well aware of the down sides and for me cigarettes are a luxury I still happen to enjoy and shall continue to do so for the foreseeable.

The only thing that might change that point of view is from a price perspective. The health risks associated with smoking do not bother me as much as the guaranteed financial losses due to ever increasing prices.

They should print pictures of the stuff you could buy with the money you're wasting on cigarettes.

conorhal · 01-02-2013 10:28AM

There has been a lot of talk about bullying amongst politicians lately, well plainly put this is nothing less then bullying. If the aim was informational, well the warning is on the pack, and I can read and thusly I’m informed.
These images typify the arrogance and contempt of those in power that feel that they are entitled to take 80% of the price of a packet of cigarettes and then kick you in the face and shout SMOKER!
I for one am sick of this nanny state government crawling through my pocket, my cupboards and my personal life. Ask yourself, where should or will this end?
Should every can of beer have a picture of a necrotic liver or the smashed face or a car crash victim on it?
Should every chocolate bar and Big Mac container feature a graphic picture of a fat oozing coronary artery or a picture of an obese diabetic amputee?
Will we see such images on the bottle of Bollinger that fat fvck O’ Reilly enjoys? I doubt it, you can bully and belittle smokers because they are predominantly working class, but middle class alcoholics packing away a couple of bottles of fine wine every night simply wouldn’t stand for it.

Crimson King · 01-02-2013 10:33AM

MarkMc wrote: »

Will they ever fcuk off. I'm perfectly aware off the dangers of smoking, but its my choice, and I enjoy cigarettes. The pictures won't put me off anything but my dinner

Don't really understand this argument. Its your choice so continue to choose smoking by all means. Some people will be put off though and that can only be a good thing???

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