Restaurant bans children...

MrCreosote · 22-01-2013 10:21AM

xLexie wrote: »

If a wedding is a child free wedding, do you guys RSVP back to the bride and groom saying "no thanks because youre child haters". Restaurants are the same, tbh.

Best way around this is to accept the invitation, and then turn up with the kids anyway. A little white lie like "The babysitter is sick" and you'll be accommodated. And everybody's happy!

Unlike in a restaurant when you'll be shamed and told to get out!

xLexie · 22-01-2013 11:02AM

MrCreosote wrote: »

Best way around this is to accept the invitation, and then turn up with the kids anyway. A little white lie like "The babysitter is sick" and you'll be accommodated. And everybody's happy!

Unlike in a restaurant when you'll be shamed and told to get out!

If anyone had the nerve to do that to me on my wedding day, I would ask you to bring them home after the church and that would be just too bad if you couldn't make it back for the reception.

Frank Black · 22-01-2013 11:32AM

xLexie wrote: »

If anyone had the nerve to do that to me on my wedding day, I would ask you to bring them home after the church and that would be just too bad if you couldn't make it back for the reception.

Ok, but on my way home, I'm stopping off at the reception venue and I'm going to make my child take a **** on your chair.
The when you sit down, you'll get my child's **** all over your wedding dress!
Your 'big-day' will be ruined!
Ruined!
Mwha ha ha!

Ranicand · 22-01-2013 11:56AM

Tombo2001 wrote: »

Wow......talk about intolerance right there. As if she was doing it just to annoy you......you really think you should be able to dictate to a parent how they should feed their newborns......

ffs indeed.

Yes lack of tolerance but guess what we don't have to tolerate everything.

A baby getting ready to puke up on a pair of boobs puts me off my food.

Tolerance means putting up with something not like it and if I am paying for an expensive meal I don't want tits out.:mad:

BizzyC · 22-01-2013 11:56AM

MrCreosote wrote: »

Best way around this is to accept the invitation, and then turn up with the kids anyway. A little white lie like "The babysitter is sick" and you'll be accommodated. And everybody's happy!

No, they're not happy. You've brought children to an occasion when the people celebrating didn't want children there. Also they now have to accommodate more people at their wedding than they had originally planned/budgeted for. I actually think it's an incredible ignorant thing to do.

If they'd specified black tie on the invite would you show up in jeans?

Your attitude towards having everyone else accommodate your wishes and your wishes alone is extremely self centered.

I'd hate to see how spoiled and self important your children grow to be.

MrCreosote · 22-01-2013 12:03PM

xLexie wrote: »

If anyone had the nerve to do that to me on my wedding day, I would ask you to bring them home after the church and that would be just too bad if you couldn't make it back for the reception.

I'd have laughed and said something like "Well, it's a free world" and gone anyway.

Ranicand wrote: »

Tolerance means putting up with something not like it and if I am paying for an expensive meal I don't want tits out.:mad:

Well you can not want them all you like. If it's for breastfeeding the legal position is clear as day.

BizzyC wrote: »

If they'd specified black tie on the invite would you show up in jeans?

Are you joking?! That would be a totally classless thing to do.

ronjo · 22-01-2013 12:06PM

MrCreosote wrote: »

Are you joking?! That would be a totally classless thing to do.

So would you?

Ranicand · 22-01-2013 12:17PM

The results of the poll above speaks for itself.

People who let their children run wild put off the majority.

These so called parents have no problem ruining a day out for the majority.

If your ill behaved brats are not wanted or allowed that is the way it is we do not need a debate money speaks.

These parents expect establishments to bend over backwards for them while driving away paying customers.

Your brat can't behave for the duration of a meal and you do nothing about it?

The answer is your a bad parent dragging up ill behaved brats.
You can talk about rights while trampling over the rights of paying customers.

Some make think my post is harsh but these brats drive away custom and that is a fact.

BizzyC · 22-01-2013 12:33PM

MrCreosote wrote: »

Are you joking?! That would be a totally classless thing to do.

But ignoring their request so you can bring your kids along is?

Heroditas · 22-01-2013 12:37PM

CaraMay wrote: »

He said there was nowhere to store the buggies and the child was at risk when the buggy was parked between tables as the waiters have to negotiate around the kids and prams with hot food. It's a valid and fair point and that's the h&s issue.

What about wheelchair users? Does he ban them as well?

EDIT: were wheelchairs already mentioned?

CaraMay · 22-01-2013 12:53PM

Heroditas wrote: »

What about wheelchair users? Does he ban them as well?

EDIT: were wheelchairs already mentioned?

You will have to ask him about that it was prams he was discussing...

hooradiation · 22-01-2013 01:04PM

awec wrote: »

Who in this thread has said the existence of children is simply intolerable?

Why are you making things up?

Poor attempt at being controversial too. Must try harder.

The what's the fucking problem?

Kids are occasionally loud, deal with it.

Heroditas · 22-01-2013 01:13PM

CaraMay wrote: »

You will have to ask him about that it was prams he was discussing...

He just doesn't want kids in the restaurant because table space is taken up and the revenue stream is smaller.
It's nothing to do with H&S.
I can see his point. His restaurant is in the heart of Ballsbridge and he wants to maximise revenue at lunchtime when business people are in the area. Mothers with kids means he earns less money.

old hippy · 22-01-2013 01:17PM

Children should be seen and not heard; isn't that how it goes? I was taught not to speak out of turn and never interrupt adults speaking. A good hard slap put me in my place.

hooradiation · 22-01-2013 01:18PM

old hippy wrote: »

Children should be seen and not heard; isn't that how it goes? I was taught not to speak out of turn and never interrupt adults speaking.

Pfff, since when did that ever work?

old hippy · 22-01-2013 01:21PM

hooradiation wrote: »

Pfff, since when did that ever work?

You mind your manners, young man.

Frank Black · 22-01-2013 01:25PM

Heroditas wrote: »

He just doesn't want kids in the restaurant because table space is taken up and the revenue stream is smaller.
It's nothing to do with H&S.
I can see his point. His restaurant is in the heart of Ballsbridge and he wants to maximise revenue at lunchtime when business people are in the area. Mothers with kids means he earns less money.

I might have the tiniest modicum of respect for him if he came out and said this was the reason for him refusing entry. But he doesn't even have the bottle to do that.
Instead he hides behind a wishy-washy H&S excuse like a coward.
Afraid to even stand behind his own beliefs as he humiliates a young mother like a schoolyard bully.

What a pathetic excuse for a human being.
What a coward.

I would rather starve than eat in his restaurant.

Hopefully he'll be closed down by the HSA/Boycotted by right-thinking members of society, and eventually lose his business and fall into a cycle of depression and drug-dependency as a result of his financial difficulties

awec · 22-01-2013 01:32PM

MrCreosote wrote: »

Best way around this is to accept the invitation, and then turn up with the kids anyway. A little white lie like "The babysitter is sick" and you'll be accommodated. And everybody's happy!

Unlike in a restaurant when you'll be shamed and told to get out!

Incredibly ignorant.

hooradiation wrote: »

The what's the fucking problem?

Kids are occasionally loud, deal with it.

They have dealt with it, they've banned kids from their restaurant.

If you don't like it, go elsewhere. In the mean time more effort should be made by certain parents in ensuring their children know how to behave.

dark crystal · 22-01-2013 01:34PM

old hippy wrote: »

Children should be seen and not heard; isn't that how it goes? I was taught not to speak out of turn and never interrupt adults speaking. A good hard slap put me in my place.

A bit off-topic, but, I would hope that old adage is long gone in today's Ireland. Being mannerly is one thing - children being seen and not heard has done a great deal of damage in this country.

Back on topic, to be honest, I reckon Mr. Fox has gotten the publicity he hoped for when he introduced this ban. I'm sure he'll get more business in the short term because of it and parents will go elsewhere to eat (not just at lunchtime either, I'd wager).
Personally, I wouldn't want to take my child anywhere they weren't welcome, so perhaps it's a good thing certain restaurants prohibit them like this. Parents then know where they stand and can take their families out to eat somewhere they aren't seen as a nuisance and are regarded as a valued customer just like anyone else.

Please Kill Me · 22-01-2013 01:39PM

old hippy wrote: »

Children should be seen and not heard; isn't that how it goes? I was taught not to speak out of turn and never interrupt adults speaking. A good hard slap put me in my place.

Absolutely! I was brought up the same way and I've passed it onto my kids. We've had people comment on how quiet and well behaved the kids are. If they weren't well behaved or couldn't sit quiet, I wouldn't take them to a restaurant, simple as! Why should other people suffer unruly kids due to careless or neglectful parenting.

This attitude of parents saying "ah they're grand" or "ah they're only kids" sickens me. It's no excuse to have little terrors running around!

old hippy · 22-01-2013 01:39PM

dark crystal wrote: »

A bit off-topic, but, I would hope that old adage is long gone in today's Ireland. Being mannerly is one thing - children being seen and not heard has done a great deal of damage in this country.

Back on topic, to be honest, I reckon Mr. Fox has gotten the publicity he hoped for when he introduced this ban. I'm sure he'll get more business in the short term because of it and parents will go elsewhere to eat (not just at lunchtime either, I'd wager).
Personally, I wouldn't want to take my child anywhere they weren't welcome, so perhaps it's a good thing certain restaurants prohibit them like this. Parents then know where they stand and can take their families out to eat somewhere they aren't seen as a nuisance and are regarded as a valued customer just like anyone else.

Our local is often overrun by mewling infants and screaming satanic spawn and the mothers just smile angelically at their offspring whilst the fathers completely ignore them until they collide with a stationery object or other person. It wasn't always like this but in the recession, money has to be made some way. But to the detriment of atmosphere? Yes, I guess we could take our custom elsewhere but why should we be driven out by the reproducers and their kid mafiosa?

dark crystal · 22-01-2013 01:41PM

old hippy wrote: »

Our local is often overrun by mewling infants and screaming satanic spawn and the mothers just smile angelically at their offspring whilst the fathers completely ignore them until they collide with a stationery object or other person. It wasn't always like this but in the recession, money has to be made some way. But to the detriment of atmosphere? Yes, I guess we could take our custome elsewhere but why should we be driven out by the reproducers and their kid mafiosa?

For a hippy, you're not too full of love and peace today are you??

BizzyC · 22-01-2013 01:43PM

dark crystal wrote: »

Personally, I wouldn't want to take my child anywhere they weren't welcome, so perhaps it's a good thing certain restaurants prohibit them like this. Parents then know where they stand and can take their families out to eat somewhere they aren't seen as a nuisance and are regarded as a valued customer just like anyone else.

Careful now....making sense may break AH.

CaraMay · 22-01-2013 01:43PM

Heroditas wrote: »

He just doesn't want kids in the restaurant because table space is taken up and the revenue stream is smaller.
It's nothing to do with H&S.
I can see his point. His restaurant is in the heart of Ballsbridge and he wants to maximise revenue at lunchtime when business people are in the area. Mothers with kids means he earns less money.

Well he actually admitted that to in all fairness to him but the likely lawsuit when some frazzled waiter drops french onion soup on Johnny Jnr would also be a deterrent.

old hippy · 22-01-2013 01:48PM

dark crystal wrote: »

For a hippy, you're not too full of love and peace today are you??

For a crystal, you're remarkably vocal, eh?

I don't hate kids, I just don't want them anywhere near my r&r zones.

You used to go to the ale house to unwind, indulge in your vices, banter, read the paper, whatever. Now they've taken our cigarettes, our cigars and pipes and replaced them with changelings and other foul imps. I wish I could stand there, like Gandalf, keeping the hordes at bay.

"You shall not pass!"

CUPimus · 22-01-2013 01:52PM

I use to work in a fairly good restaurant in the north, and they had a policy of having children in the early 5.30-7.00 sitting and then didn't take children in the later sitting which I thought most places should do as it is a good idea!

LifesgoodwithLG · 22-01-2013 01:53PM

MrCreosote wrote: »

Best way around this is to accept the invitation, and then turn up with the kids anyway. A little white lie like "The babysitter is sick" and you'll be accommodated. And everybody's happy!

Unlike in a restaurant when you'll be shamed and told to get out!

I would like to think that you would raise your children with more manners than to lie to their hosts, very very poor form. Not everyone's happy, the host is not happy and the chances are your children are also not happy to be in an adult environment but you are the only one that matters right. Maybe you are so vocal about this restaurants policy as your friends have stopped inviting you around because of the above behaviour ?

Heroditas · 22-01-2013 02:11PM

CaraMay wrote: »

Well he actually admitted that to in all fairness to him but the likely lawsuit when some frazzled waiter drops french onion soup on Johnny Jnr would also be a deterrent.

Sounds like he needs to train his staff properly then.
There's as much chance of them spilling soup on someone in a wheelchair yet no mention of wheelchair users being banned as well.

BizzyC · 22-01-2013 02:17PM

Wheelchair users don't buzz around the restaurant under the waiters feet while they're carrying soup...

Galwayguy35 · 22-01-2013 04:01PM

hooradiation wrote: »

The what's the fucking problem?

Kids are occasionally loud, deal with it.

Ever think some of us don't have kids is because we don't want to deal with screaming babies?

Now if we decide we prefer not to have deal with that in our own lives why the hell do you think we should have to deal with someone elses kid running riot and bawling?

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