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Ireland still a 1st world country??

  • 19-12-2012 05:58PM
    #1
    bobo26b
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13 ✭


    Just wondering with all the sh*te that has gone on in Ireland over the last few years, can we still call ourselves a 1st world country. Is it possible that we may have slid into being some sort of 2nd tier 1st world country or 2nd world country.

    Lads were talking about this in the pub the other night most thought we were still a 1st world country, I'm not sure I think we could have slipped a bit into some form of 2nd tier group.

    So what do ye think??

    What group do you believe Ireland falls under 301 votes

    Still 1st world
    0% 0 votes
    1st world, 2nd Tier (if it exists)
    74% 225 votes
    2nd World
    15% 48 votes
    3rd World
    9% 28 votes


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  • #2
    davet82
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,753 ✭✭✭davet82


    Go to Ethopia for a week and come back and tell us what YOU think :rolleyes:


  • #3
    Where To
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,455 ✭✭✭Where To


    We're still in the Top Ten.


  • #4
    bobo26b
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13 ✭bobo26b


    davet82 wrote: »
    Go to Ethopia for a week and come back and tell us what YOU think :rolleyes:

    Not saying we are a 3rd world country buddy, read my post again


  • #5
    curlzy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,708 ✭✭✭curlzy


    Depends on the issue really. Social supports: 1st world country, Abortions law: > 3rd world country.


  • #6
    Felexicon
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,642 ✭✭✭Felexicon


    The fact that you discussed this in a pub answers this question.


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  • #7
    davet82
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,753 ✭✭✭davet82


    bobo26b wrote: »
    Not saying we are a 3rd world country buddy, read my post again

    Go to Eastren Europe then, you'll find the same answer applies :rolleyes:


  • #8
    im invisible
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,372 ✭✭✭im invisible


    i dont know what a tracker mortgage 2nd world country is


  • #9
    Fattes
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,208 ✭✭✭Fattes


    We were never a 1st world country! By the standard definition accepted globally we were actually a 3rd world country

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Third_World


  • #10
    Kylo Ren
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,366 ✭✭✭✭Kylo Ren


    Absolutely. Having to walk about 10 feet to the fridge to get bottled water is starting to take its toll.

    Where is our Concern eh?


  • #11
    I am pie
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,652 ✭✭✭I am pie


    Only people who have never left a fully developed country ask questions like this. Travel a bit, see if you can't work out why it is a daft question.


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  • #12
    Duggy747
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,295 ✭✭✭✭Duggy747


    Isn't the term of a 2nd world country one that belonged to countries that were under the Soviets back in the day?

    In that case, Heil Lenin comrade bonjour..........eh........mucho grande?


  • #13
    bobo26b
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13 ✭bobo26b


    I am pie wrote: »
    Only people who have never left a fully developed country ask questions like this. Travel a bit, see if you can't work out why it is a daft question.

    would you say we are in the same group as some of the 1st world countries such as Sweden, Denmark or even Australia??


  • #14
    Andy-Pandy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,848 ✭✭✭Andy-Pandy


    Some people on boards have no idea how lucky they are to live in this country.


  • #15
    Andy-Pandy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,848 ✭✭✭Andy-Pandy


    bobo26b wrote: »
    would you say we are in the same group as some of the 1st world countries such as Sweden, Denmark or even Australia??

    Yes


  • #16
    Fattes
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,208 ✭✭✭Fattes


    In relation to all of the above as people perceive it rather than what it is Ireland was never a first world country.

    We were always even at the height of the boom a second world nation. Poor infrastructure public services and facilities, we were always a step behind.


  • #17
    ckeego
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,309 ✭✭✭ckeego


    Nothing other than a first class Banana Republic.


  • #18
    bobo26b
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13 ✭bobo26b


    Andy-Pandy wrote: »
    Yes

    I would actually argue that are level of infrastructure, government social issues and some problems in relation to paramilitaries would not place us at the highest levels of the 1st world grouping, not to mention are current economic mess.


  • #19
    ckeego
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,309 ✭✭✭ckeego


    And to quantify my comment above, where in the world would you have a country where we are bailing out the banks and they make the gutter move of raising credit card rates a week before Christmas...


  • #20
    bb1234567
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,513 ✭✭✭bb1234567


    bobo26b wrote: »
    Just wondering with all the sh*te that has gone on in Ireland over the last few years, can we still call ourselves a 1st world country. Is it possible that we may have slid into being some sort of 2nd tier 1st world country or 2nd world country.

    Lads were talking about this in the pub the other night most thought we were still a 1st world country, I'm not sure I think we could have slipped a bit into some form of 2nd tier group.

    So what do ye think??

    If Ireland can no longer be considered a 1st world country then that means theres about ten 1st world countries in the whole world. Ireland is still a better country to live in than the likes of USA, UK, Spain,Portugal, Greece etc and theyre all first world countries. Only the likes of Canada, Asutralia, Germany and the Scandinavian contries would have a higher quality of life than Ireland .


  • #21
    Celly Smunt
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 9,463 ✭✭✭Celly Smunt


    ckeego wrote: »
    And to quantify my comment above, where in the world would you have a country where we are bailing out the banks and they make the gutter move of raising credit card rates a week before Christmas...

    oh no,not a government doing what's best for the country? :rolleyes:

    you got the credit card,deal with it.


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  • #22
    JamieKCCO
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 78 ✭✭JamieKCCO


    Would I be wrong in saying we have one of the highest standards of living in the world?


  • #23
    SEPT 23 1989
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43,038 ✭✭✭✭SEPT 23 1989


    We were 3rd world because we were neutral in the Cold War


  • #24
    cristoir
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 555 ✭✭✭cristoir


    The terms first world, second world and third world are not linked to economic performance. The terms actually correlated to an outdated model of the geopolitical world. First world refers to democratic-industrial countries within the American/Capitalist influence sphere. Second World refers to any countries in the Soviet/Communist sphere of influence (hence why that one isn't mentioned any more). Third World was to refer to the "unaligned" which basically was everyone else.

    The reason the whole first world, third world terms became to be mistaken for economic performance is simple. The economic performance of countries within the US sphere of influence was and is much stronger then the "unaligned" nations which consists of much of Africa and Asia.


  • #25
    Celly Smunt
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 9,463 ✭✭✭Celly Smunt


    JamieKCCO wrote: »
    Would I be wrong in saying we have one of the highest standards of living in the world?

    we're mostly middle field of the best.


  • #26
    bb1234567
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,513 ✭✭✭bb1234567


    Fattes wrote: »
    In relation to all of the above as people perceive it rather than what it is Ireland was never a first world country.

    We were always even at the height of the boom a second world nation. Poor infrastructure public services and facilities, we were always a step behind.

    Compared to where !? Sweden or Canada yes, but compared to about 90% of the rest of the world, no. Almost all of Africa, South America, China,India, Russia , Eastern Europe, Latin America, The Caribbean and most of the Middle east are actually a step behind us.


  • #27
    ckeego
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,309 ✭✭✭ckeego


    pmcmahon wrote: »
    oh no,not a government doing what's best for the country? :rolleyes:

    you got the credit card,deal with it.

    A government doing what's best for the country would have jailed many of those who were behind it.

    Yes I do have a credit card and will pay it off at the end of the month.

    However, there are many others out there who won't be able to, this month nor next unfortunately.

    Nice 'tude by the way...


  • #28
    davet82
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,753 ✭✭✭davet82


    pmcmahon wrote: »
    we're mostly middle field of the best.

    we're ranked in the top twenty in the world for standard of living...

    i'll try find the link, i think we came in around 13th.

    The report takes everything from education, weather, disasters, econmic, social and compiles them and compares them to other developed countries


  • #29
    666irishguy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 469 ✭✭666irishguy


    It's only people in first world countries that ask this kind of question, so yes we are a first world country. Those in the Third world are usually too busy trying to just live to ponder such things. To be lucky enough to be born in Ireland or any other country in Western Europe is something we take for granted.


  • #30
    Celly Smunt
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 9,463 ✭✭✭Celly Smunt


    ckeego wrote: »
    A government doing what's best for the country would have jailed many of those who were behind it.
    That wouldn't have benefitted the country at all,in fact it would have cost more to house them up in hotel mountjoy.
    ckeego wrote: »
    Yes I do have a credit card and will pay it off at the end of the month.

    However, there are many others out there who won't be able to, this month nor next unfortunately.

    Nice 'tude by the way...
    Then you can pay it,so pay it.For those who can't it's their own fault,nobody forced them to use their credit card.Their credit card debt is also in the last line of things that have to be paid.If they can pay all their bills and not pay their credit card they aren't too bad off in the grand scheme of things.


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  • #31
    penzo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 228 ✭✭penzo


    The etymology of the term is irrelevent we all know what he means.

    but yes of course we are still a first world country and still quite near the top, the fact that we can even without laughabilty compare and use countries like sweden and germany as models shows how high we are.


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