HEC: Biarritz vs Connacht, Fri 14 Dec 8pm; Sky Sports 2

Tigerandahalf · 14-12-2012 09:56PM

Come on lads. They are playing a powerhouse of French rugby in their own back yard. Would Munster win here tonight?

Third_Echelon · 14-12-2012 09:56PM

That kick from the 11 was stupid! Handed the try to Biarritz! Any chance of a LBP gone in a flash.. dopes!

its_phil · 14-12-2012 09:57PM

And Yachvili breaks the punters heart...

DEFTLEFTHAND · 14-12-2012 09:57PM

That was a bit of a joke lads imo. The game shouldn't have went ahead with the pitch in that state.

Third_Echelon · 14-12-2012 09:58PM

Tigerandahalf wrote: »

Come on lads. They are playing a powerhouse of French rugby in their own back yard. Would Munster win here tonight?

Powerhouse? Don't think so... They've been in a downward spiral for the past 6 seaons or so since those H Cup finals that they got to. Granted they won the Amlin last season, but powerhouse? Nope.

Fishooks13 · 14-12-2012 09:58PM

Biarritz by 1-14

Tigerandahalf wrote: »

Come on lads. They are playing a powerhouse of French rugby in their own back yard. Would Munster win here tonight?

Power house is a word that seems to be bandied around for every french club

The Conn game plan was woeful and they made some very silly individual errors (Parks for the first try), they certainly weren't awful, but certainly not superb either

Scioch · 14-12-2012 09:59PM

Connacht by 1-14

Tigerandahalf wrote: »

Come on lads. They are playing a powerhouse of French rugby in their own back yard. Would Munster win here tonight?

They would have done a hell of a lot more than launch high balls with no chasers all night. What did Connacht actually get from that ? One kickable penalty ? When Biarritz played 20 minutes with 14 men ? Thats pathetic.

Tigerandahalf · 14-12-2012 09:59PM

McSharry, Marmion and Henshaw were all superb. And McKeon was Motm for Connacht. A lot of real good talent in Connacht.

Fishooks13 · 14-12-2012 10:00PM

Biarritz by 1-14

Scioch wrote: »

Pathetic stuff from Connacht. Nothing new.

Not sure what that's supposed to imply tbh. What was pathetic and how have they been pathetic in the past. Please explain

molloyjh · 14-12-2012 10:00PM

Lapin wrote: »

A shíte, 10 - 0 was a fairer reflection of the game than 17 - 0.

Wouldn't agree with that I'm afraid. Connacht brought nothing to the game and it was all Biarritz. Connacht were lucky it wasn't more in the end.

thomond2006 · 14-12-2012 10:00PM

Conditions suited Yachvili and Biarritz.

evil_seed · 14-12-2012 10:01PM

Scioch wrote: »

Pathetic stuff from Connacht. Nothing new.

Agree. This has been Connacht for most of the games this season. Brainless at the end

Fishooks13 · 14-12-2012 10:03PM

Biarritz by 1-14

thomond2006 wrote: »

Conditions suited Yachvili and Biarritz.

This

Gameplan from Conn tonight was woeful. Most of what they did seemed to be deep kicks in the hope of a fumble

duckysauce · 14-12-2012 10:04PM

Connacht by more than 14

Tigerandahalf wrote: »

Come on lads. They are playing a powerhouse of French rugby in their own back yard. Would Munster win here tonight?

yes

Tigerandahalf · 14-12-2012 10:08PM

I agree the conditions didnt help connacht. Was at sportsground for last match and the biarritz backline werent better than connachts. The conditiins were v hard and I thought Connacht made v little handling errors until around 60 minutes. It was a great game. Commitment from both teams was fantastic. The try was poor from Connacht and Parks shouldnt have gone for penalty given how poor underfoot it was. But if he scored it would be different story.

its_phil · 14-12-2012 10:08PM

duckysauce wrote: »

yes

well they didn't in Paris against Racing with very similar conditions.

wp_rathead · 14-12-2012 10:09PM

Connacht by 1-14

Tigerandahalf wrote: »

McSharry, Marmion and Henshaw were all superb. And McKeon was Motm for Connacht. A lot of real good talent in Connacht.

Agree with Henshaw, was very exciting even in almost comical playing conditions..

Thought Marimon was rather poor by his standards tonight- was really taught a lesson by Yach in the art of scrum halfing in these conditions

McKeon and Browne had storming games upfront

Loughs had a good game but Nathan White was fantastic when he came on

totallegend · 14-12-2012 10:09PM

thomond2006 wrote: »

Conditions suited Yachvili and Biarritz.

Hmmm.

For years we've been hearing that the wind and rain at the Showgrounds upset the opposition. I don't see how tonight's conditions favoured Biarritz.

Yachvili is one of the most intelligent players around so he'll adapt to pretty much anything

Scioch · 14-12-2012 10:10PM

Connacht by 1-14

Fishooks13 wrote: »

Not sure what that's supposed to imply tbh. What was pathetic and how have they been pathetic in the past. Please explain

For all the effort they put in its always reduced to shíte by utter stupidity and laziness. There has been many games gone the same way. One kickable penalty in 80 minutes against a team with discipline issues (two sent off). Were they in the Biarritz half with the ball more than twice in the game ? Biarritz turned down how many kickable penalties ? 17 - 0 is flattering.

They could have gotten something but couldnt muster anything other than high balls with no chasers, they only tried to run it deep in their own half ffs. And still Biarritz left something there for the takin, but Connacht being Connacht couldnt take it.

duckysauce · 14-12-2012 10:11PM

Connacht by more than 14

its_phil wrote: »

well they didn't in Paris against Racing with very similar conditions.

He asked about BO not Racing

14-12-2012 10:11PM

Scioch wrote: »

Pathetic stuff from Connacht. Nothing new.

:rolleyes:
Connacht didn't do themselves any favours with their gameplan tonight but I'd bet my bottom dollar you've never played in conditions like that.

The same charge could be levelled against Munster v Racing where they blew the game through their own stupidity or Leinster for failing to return to the basics of just winning the lineout when the malfunction started with the game there for the winning or at least drawing.

4PP · 14-12-2012 10:12PM

Connacht by 1-14

Third_Echelon wrote: »

Powerhouse? Don't think so... They've been in a downward spiral for the past 6 seaons or so since those H Cup finals that they got to. Granted they won the Amlin last season, but powerhouse? Nope.

Agreed, anyone who believes BOPB are a real force in the T14 is totally out of touch (with French rugby).

They can fire & hire all the coaches they like but they are at best mid table T14.

Connacht slipped up tonight, win was not on but an LBP was possible if they had played a bit of rugby.

wp_rathead · 14-12-2012 10:14PM

Connacht by 1-14

totallegend wrote: »

Hmmm.

For years we've been hearing that the wind and rain at the Showgrounds upset the opposition. I don't see how tonight's conditions favoured Biarritz.

We tend to play more back orientated rugby nowadays- Our pack is more mobile rather than just the "stick it up the jumper" that used to suit our play

PS: It is the Sportsground

Fishooks13 · 14-12-2012 10:14PM

Biarritz by 1-14

Scioch wrote: »

For all the effort they put in its always reduced to shíte by utter stupidity and laziness. There has been many games gone the same way. One kickable penalty in 80 minutes against a team with discipline issues (two sent off). Were they in the Biarritz half with the ball more than twice in the game ? Biarritz turned down how many kickable penalties ? 17 - 0 is flattering.

They could have gotten something but couldnt muster anything other than high balls with no chasers, they only tried to run it deep in their own half ffs. And still Biarritz left something there for the takin, but Connacht being Connacht couldnt take it.

I agree with all that, but do you not think calling the performance 'pathetic' is a bit of an overstatement?

its_phil · 14-12-2012 10:14PM

duckysauce wrote: »

He asked about BO not Racing

So? He was still asking would they have won their tonight and based on the showing against Racing in my opinion, no they wouldn't have.

Scioch · 14-12-2012 10:15PM

Connacht by 1-14

Borders no.2 wrote: »

:rolleyes:
Connacht didn't do themselves any favours with their gameplan tonight but I'd bet my bottom dollar you've never played in conditions like that.

The same charge could be levelled against Munster v Racing where they blew the game through their own stupidity or Leinster for failing to return to the basics of just winning the lineout malfunction started with the game there for the winning or at least drawing.

I'm not playing for a professional rugby team. But if I was I'm pretty sure I could up with a better plan than "Kick the ball away over and over and over again". The difference with Munster and Leinster is they learn from their blunders. Connacht dont, they mooch along holding out and looking heroic by putting in physical shifts but then making even that pointless by throwing away each and every opportunity that comes their way.

Tox56 · 14-12-2012 10:15PM

Borders no.2 wrote: »

:rolleyes:
Connacht didn't do themselves any favours with their gameplan tonight but I'd bet my bottom dollar you've never played in conditions like that.

The same charge could be levelled against Munster v Racing where they blew the game through their own stupidity or Leinster for failing to return to the basics of just winning the lineout when the malfunction started with the game there for the winning or at least drawing.

Connacht (and Parks in particular) were very naive tonight, I don't know what that has to do with Leinster's crap lineout

Fishooks13 · 14-12-2012 10:17PM

Biarritz by 1-14

Scioch wrote: »

I'm not playing for a professional rugby team. But if I was I'm pretty sure I could up with a better plan than "Kick the ball away over and over and over again". The difference with Munster and Leinster is they learn from their blunders. Connacht dont, they mooch along holding out and looking heroic by putting in physical shifts but then making even that pointless by throwing away each and every opportunity that comes their way.

This is a very narrow-minded view of Connacht rugby. They've been punching well above their weight in the HC so far, and are a credit to province they represent (bad gameplan tonight aside)

Scioch · 14-12-2012 10:17PM

Connacht by 1-14

Fishooks13 wrote: »

I agree with all that, but do you not think calling the performance 'pathetic' is a bit of an overstatement?

I dont think so no, they are a professional outfit and shouldnt be playing like this on a regular basis. We have seen uproar about McCarthy moving on, do people expect him to put up with that type of stuff day in and day out ?

That tonight to me (considering they didnt even try) was pathetic. Might not be how others describe it but to me I find it beyond disappointing.

duckysauce · 14-12-2012 10:17PM

Connacht by more than 14

its_phil wrote: »

So? He was still asking would they have won their tonight and based on the showing against Racing in my opinion, no they wouldn't have.

cool that's great I think they would as Parks had a major BRAIN fart, shows why he gave up international rugby

HEC: Biarritz vs Connacht, Fri 14 Dec 8pm; Sky Sports 2

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