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  • #92
    Lennonist
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,805 ✭✭✭Lennonist


    antoobrien wrote: »
    A car bought today is seen as another 12 reg i.e. just another one year old car in about 4 weeks.

    It will still be seen like that. Splitting hairs with that one I reckon and wonder how much will be spent on bringing in the change necessary. Obviously the car sales companies still have a lot of clout at governmental level.


  • #93
    Reloc8
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,857 ✭✭✭Reloc8


    Lord Trollington wrote: »
    What do the mean by Maternity Benefit Taxable from July 2013?

    You can get it but you have to pay tax on it as income.


  • #94
    Riskymove
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,902 ✭✭✭✭Riskymove


    Lord Trollington wrote: »
    What do the mean by Maternity Benefit Taxable from July 2013?

    it will taxable as income

    up to now it hasn't been

    really an issue if you are paid what your salary was as maternity pay rather than just the state payment I think


  • #95
    MagicMarker
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 32,865 ✭✭✭✭MagicMarker


    Lord Trollington wrote: »
    What do the mean by Maternity Benefit Taxable from July 2013?
    Basically you get less money, because they'll tax it like any other income.


  • #96
    antoobrien
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,106 ✭✭✭antoobrien


    Lennonist wrote: »
    It will still be seen like that. Splitting hairs with that one I reckon and wonder how much will be spent on bringing in the change necessary.

    Yes, but it will change next year. The value of a car will not take as sharp a drop, supposedly making it easier to sell on.

    It won't cost anything to bring in.


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  • #97
    Riskymove
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,902 ✭✭✭✭Riskymove


    NO SW rate cuts


  • #98
    [Jackass]
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,193 ✭✭✭[Jackass]


    Primary Social Welfare unchanged. Surprised but not sure which way I feel about it...

    Massive drain on finances vs maintaining money supply and purchasing power...


  • #99
    _Kaiser_
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,322 ✭✭✭✭_Kaiser_


    So to summarise so far then... all these changes are going to hit the 30-60k working stiff hardest then - AGAIN! - is that right?


  • #100
    Riskymove
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,902 ✭✭✭✭Riskymove


    €10 off child benefit


  • #101
    dsmythy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,570 ✭✭✭✭dsmythy


    Riskymove wrote: »
    €10 off child benefit

    Increase in childcare places for low income workers.


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  • #102
    antoobrien
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,106 ✭✭✭antoobrien


    Kaiser2000 wrote: »
    So to summarise so far then... all these changes are going to hit the 30-60k working stiff hardest then - AGAIN! - is that right?

    All I can see is €5 pw increase in PRSI contribution. Not exactly a massive hit.


  • #103
    Sleepy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,584 ✭✭✭✭Sleepy


    Increase to prescription charge to €1.50 for those on medical cards


  • #104
    Scortho
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,871 ✭✭✭Scortho


    Gilally wrote: »
    So the relief on mortgages prior 2008 still exists?

    Not that I can see. It is still there until 2017.


  • #105
    [Jackass]
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,193 ✭✭✭[Jackass]


    Can't see anything on ticker. Any major announcements relating to third level education? Student Contribution / Fees / Grants?


  • #106
    _Kaiser_
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,322 ✭✭✭✭_Kaiser_


    antoobrien wrote: »
    All I can see is €5 pw increase in PRSI contribution. Not exactly a massive hit.

    + car tax increases
    + taxable maternity leave for the ladies/families
    + HHC/Property Tax charge increase for home owners


  • #107
    Riskymove
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,902 ✭✭✭✭Riskymove


    [Jackass] wrote: »
    Can't see anything on ticker. Any major announcements relating to third level education? Student Contribution / Fees / Grants?

    now going into education


  • #108
    Scortho
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,871 ✭✭✭Scortho


    Sleepy wrote: »
    Increase to prescription charge to €1.50 for those on medical cards

    Pharmacy and GP fees to fall as well to save 80 m.

    Shall be making for fun times for me in 2 years time!


  • #109
    Riskymove
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,902 ✭✭✭✭Riskymove


    Kaiser2000 wrote: »
    + car tax increases
    + taxable maternity leave for the ladies/families
    + HHC/Property Tax charge increase for home owners

    but they apply to everyone, not just thos on 30-60k p.a.


  • #110
    Scortho
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,871 ✭✭✭Scortho


    Lennonist wrote: »
    Who buys cars on that basis, I buy a car when I need one.

    Plate snobs.....:D


  • #111
    Mycroft H
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,306 ✭✭✭Mycroft H


    student contribution up 250 euros and 250 on top of that in 2014


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  • #112
    Lennonist
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,805 ✭✭✭Lennonist


    Scortho wrote: »
    Plate snobs.....:D

    Ah yes, I remember them:pac:


  • #113
    MJohnston
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,742 ✭✭✭✭MJohnston


    Scortho wrote: »
    Plate snobs.....:D

    Ah here, in fairness there is a bit of a financial incentive to buying a car at the start of the year if you're planning to re-sell at some point. Or sometimes, just something really annoying - mines a late 07 and therefore falls under the older engine-sized based car tax bands. Two months later, the exact same car would be judged on CO2 emissions instead (which are really good for this particular model) and the car tax price is a good 300 euro less. It's never just plate snobbery imo.


  • #114
    Riskymove
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,902 ✭✭✭✭Riskymove


    severence pay for Ministers abolished


  • #115
    antoobrien
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,106 ✭✭✭antoobrien


    Kaiser2000 wrote: »
    + car tax increases
    + taxable maternity leave for the ladies/families
    + HHC/Property Tax charge increase for home owners

    That argument is as valid as claiming the SW classes are being unfairly targeted by the increases in excise on fags & booze.


  • #116
    Mycroft H
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,306 ✭✭✭Mycroft H


    WOOO no cut's to 3rd level grants :D


  • #117
    KAGY
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,077 ✭✭✭KAGY


    antoobrien wrote: »
    All I can see is €5 pw increase in PRSI contribution. Not exactly a massive hit.
    Maybe not, but for those that have a small extra income of 5k from self employed income its a big chunk out of that. And that's before USC, PL, IT, ...
    Again it's hitting the low income earners more


  • #118
    Jhcx
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,776 ✭✭✭Jhcx


    So its a bit like apple all predictable so far?


  • #119
    Scortho
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,871 ✭✭✭Scortho


    MJohnston wrote: »
    Ah here, in fairness there is a bit of a financial incentive to buying a car at the start of the year if you're planning to re-sell at some point. Or sometimes, just something really annoying - mines a late 07 and therefore falls under the older engine-sized based car tax bands. Two months later, the exact same car would be judged on CO2 emissions instead (which are really good for this particular model) and the car tax price is a good 300 euro less. It's never just plate snobbery imo.


    There is no financial incentive to buy a new car. The depreciation in the first 3 years is over 50%.
    Personally I'd rather buy a 3 year old high specked BMW or Audi than a Paddy spec passat or skoda!
    The old tax system on cars is totally regressionary. It rewards those who could buy a new car and disadvantages those who couldnt afford to.


  • #120
    antoobrien
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,106 ✭✭✭antoobrien


    KAGY wrote: »
    Maybe not, but for those that have a small extra income of 5k from self employed income its a big chunk out of that. And that's before USC, PL, IT, ...
    Again it's hitting the low income earners more

    The only "low income" measure I can see is the abolition of the PRSI exemption - which works out at €5 payment per week.


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  • #121
    Riskymove
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,902 ✭✭✭✭Riskymove


    TwoShedsJackson wrote: »
    So we're expected to pay €157 for all of 2013, despite it being replaced by a Property Tax halfway through the year, and pay that on top of the 157?

    the €157 applies for the first six months of 2013

    I am not 100% what happens then but it could mean the annual tax applies for July to July each year - i.e. july 2013 - July 2014 and so on


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