Arsenal Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 12/13 MOD POST #232

tayto lover · 04-12-2012 07:48PM

jonneymendoza wrote: »

Mate who is that kid behind shezney in the tunnel just now? cant be part of the squad! literely looks like a 10 year old!

That's Meade. He is 5 ft 3 ins and 20 years old. Very small.

Quazzie · 04-12-2012 07:50PM

Wenger must be cloning left backs. Cole, Clichy, Gibbs, and now Meade. They all have the same physical attributes.

04-12-2012 09:32PM

AdamD wrote: »

http://www.arsenal.com/news/news-archive/akpom-ansah-and-monteiro-in-arsenal-squad

Looks like tomorrow could be a write off

This turned out to be true anyway. 1 major worry is Ox, who's been pretty poor this season.

Gringo180 · 04-12-2012 09:38PM

Ive a pain in me gee watching some of these players, Gervinho, Arshavin, Ramsey, Squillachi, etc all should be nowhere near our club! Some players are just coasting at the minute what the **** like show a bit of passion for the jersey yous pack of ****!!!!!

Soups123 · 04-12-2012 09:46PM

Tonight was mheh. It's all about Saturday. Could be a blessing getting West Brom at home just as they hit there slump. Would rather a bigger test Saturday to challenge a response from the players would just be iratating to win sat and drop points again next week

emergingstar · 04-12-2012 09:54PM

Rosicky back and Meade looked good, first team rested and were through to the next stage not to bad of a night

jordainius · 04-12-2012 10:05PM

I suppose not too much harm done tonight, though I have a bad feeling we'll probably get Barcelona in the next round!

Ed Winchester · 04-12-2012 10:08PM

jordainius wrote: »

I suppose not too much harm done tonight, though I have a bad feeling we'll probably get Barcelona in the next round!

Nailed on.

tayto lover · 04-12-2012 10:11PM

jordainius wrote: »

I suppose not too much harm done tonight, though I have a bad feeling we'll probably get Barcelona in the next round!

Can't honestly see us going much further in this. Even with major surgery in January we have too many average players.

Mr.Micro · 04-12-2012 10:23PM

Even the second string team tonight were pretty average. Rosicky made an impression, the rest just collecting their wages. I never felt there was a goal coming from Arsenal after Rosicky went off. Never mind, any team in the last 16 is tough so fingers crossed, its not tougher than Arsenal's second string.

patrickc · 04-12-2012 10:56PM

heading over for saturdays game, I'm not looking forward to it as I normally would, I'm prediciting a dismal draw

emergingstar · 04-12-2012 11:12PM

patrickc wrote: »

heading over for saturdays game, I'm not looking forward to it as I normally would, I'm prediciting a dismal draw

If we don't get off to a good start the atmosphere could be posinious

lookitsme · 04-12-2012 11:24PM

i know it was a second team playing tonight but another loss. is anyone else frustrated at being an arsenal supporter? i know i am

emergingstar · 04-12-2012 11:26PM

lookitsme wrote: »

i know it was a second team playing tonight but another loss. is anyone else frustrated at being an arsenal supporter? i know i am

Only frustrated now, lucky you

lookitsme · 04-12-2012 11:28PM

well i thought last week took the biscuit until tonight.

patrickc · 04-12-2012 11:30PM

emergingstar wrote: »

If we don't get off to a good start the atmosphere could be posinious

yeh I know, hoping its not every time ive been before theres always been a great atmosphere

tayto lover · 04-12-2012 11:35PM

lookitsme wrote: »

well i thought last week took the biscuit until tonight.

At the start of the season we had two poor scoreless draws while playing bad football. In his interviews after those games Wenger said he was happy with the performances. Why would anyone be happy with those performances and why would the team try harder if the manager was happy with that s***?
The same performances continued and we got a few results . I do not think we would have beaten Spurs if Adebayor had remained on the pitch. The sending off changed the game. We also got a very lucky win against QPR.

The season has been a disaster but yet we are only 5 points off fourth place and anything is possible. A few good signings in January could still get us fourth.

Much of the blame lies with the manager for accepting mediocrity.

farna_boy · 05-12-2012 12:17AM

lookitsme wrote: »

well i thought last week took the biscuit until tonight.

How can you judge anything by tonight's performance?

It was a second string team that was playing. What exactly did you think was going to happen when you had Arshavin and Gervinho are on the same pitch at the same time? I doubt Henry, never mind Chamakh, could have done much better when you are relying on those two for service.

wandatowell · 05-12-2012 12:26AM

tayto lover wrote: »

Much of the blame lies with the manager for accepting mediocrity.

100% correct

batistuta9 · 05-12-2012 08:06AM

possible CL opponents:

PSG, Malaga, B. Dortmund, Barca, Shakhtar or Juve, Bayern or Valencia

I'd take PSG

TheGunns · 05-12-2012 08:34AM

batistuta9 wrote: »

possible CL opponents:

PSG, Malaga, B. Dortmund, Barca, Shakhtar or Juve, Bayern or Valencia

I'd take PSG

I wouldnt be bothered really as long as we avoid Dortmund and Barca. I feel like the rest of them are beatable even if we dont make any big signings. But judging from wengers post match interview, I think we can expect a few new faces in jan

Marty McFly · 05-12-2012 09:01AM

farna_boy wrote: »

How can you judge anything by tonight's performance?

It was a second string team that was playing. What exactly did you think was going to happen when you had Arshavin and Gervinho are on the same pitch at the same time? I doubt Henry, never mind Chamakh, could have done much better when you are relying on those two for service.

As much as tonight was a nothing match it did also highlight how weak our squad is, United second string would probably be Wellbeck and Hernandez, City would have played Dzeko or Balotelli we played Chamakh, Gervinho and Arshavin all dreadful.

These are all Wengers players, players he decided were good enough to put on the Arsenal jersey. We gave Squillaci a run for fcuk sake he shouldnt be in our team at all yet hes our second string another player signed by Wenger and none of them fit to wear the jersey.

farna_boy · 05-12-2012 12:31PM

Marty McFly wrote: »

As much as tonight was a nothing match it did also highlight how weak our squad is, United second string would probably be Wellbeck and Hernandez, City would have played Dzeko or Balotelli we played Chamakh, Gervinho and Arshavin all dreadful.

These are all Wengers players, players he decided were good enough to put on the Arsenal jersey. We gave Squillaci a run for fcuk sake he shouldnt be in our team at all yet hes our second string another player signed by Wenger and none of them fit to wear the jersey.

I wholeheartedly agree that our second string team is too weak. The problem I had with the previous posts is that they were saying that we could use tonight's performance as an indicator of the ability of the first team. That is a complete falsehood. Any first team squad players that were there tonight probably didn't care a whole lot. We were qualified anyway and no matter if we finished first or second, we could still end up playing Real Madrid or Barcelona.

What is frustrating was the likes of Gervinho and Arshavin who could have probably made a case for their inclusion in the first team, didn't even bother last night. Maybe Gervinho did, but I hope not.

I thought Chamakh did ok in the second half. He won every header from our kick outs but no one was there to take advantage. He chased the defence down, but was the only one doing so. I lost count of how many times he was waiting for a through ball from either Gervinho or Ramsey and either they didn't choose him or they lost the ball.

Essentially, we have the same problem in the second team as we do in the first, the forward is not being given the service he needs and no one is playing off him. If Giroud had been playing tonight instead of Chamakh he probably would have fared similarly. The one time that someone did play off Chamakh, Ramsey f*cked it up.

I don't know about anyone else that played last night. Meade did well and probably deserves a run if Gibbs gets injured again. Rosicky also did ok and would be a good alternative in midfield to come off the bench. I wouldn't object to Chamakh being on the bench ahead of Gervinho and as a plan B stick him and Giroud up front together. In my mind, no one else really deserves a mention.

Just remember though, last nights performance can not be used as an indicator of how the first team is doing. You might as well have watched your local team playing last night and used their performance as a way to judge how Arsenal's first team are playing.

DenMan · 05-12-2012 12:32PM

The King's return is getting closer and closer!

http://www.goal.com/en-gb/news/2896/premier-league/2012/12/05/3580166/henry-agrees-to-rejoin-arsenal-for-a-third-spell?source=breakingnews

Mickeroo · 05-12-2012 12:46PM

farna_boy wrote: »

I wholeheartedly agree that our second string team is too weak. The problem I had with the previous posts is that they were saying that we could use tonight's performance as an indicator of the ability of the first team. That is a complete falsehood. Any first team squad players that were there tonight probably didn't care a whole lot. We were qualified anyway and no matter if we finished first or second, we could still end up playing Real Madrid or Barcelona.

What is frustrating was the likes of Gervinho and Arshavin who could have probably made a case for their inclusion in the first team, didn't even bother last night. Maybe Gervinho did, but I hope not.

I thought Chamakh did ok in the second half. He won every header from our kick outs but no one was there to take advantage. He chased the defence down, but was the only one doing so. I lost count of how many times he was waiting for a through ball from either Gervinho or Ramsey and either they didn't choose him or they lost the ball.

Essentially, we have the same problem in the second team as we do in the first, the forward is not being given the service he needs and no one is playing off him. If Giroud had been playing tonight instead of Chamakh he probably would have fared similarly. The one time that someone did play off Chamakh, Ramsey f*cked it up.

I don't know about anyone else that played last night. Meade did well and probably deserves a run if Gibbs gets injured again. Rosicky also did ok and would be a good alternative in midfield to come off the bench. I wouldn't object to Chamakh being on the bench ahead of Gervinho and as a plan B stick him and Giroud up front together. In my mind, no one else really deserves a mention.

Just remember though, last nights performance can not be used as an indicator of how the first team is doing. You might as well have watched your local team playing last night and used their performance as a way to judge how Arsenal's first team are playing.

I'd happily see Chamakh in the team ahead of Gervinho too. Himself and Giroud played pretty well together in the reading cup match iirc too, though that match was crazy so probably not a great barometer.

greendom · 05-12-2012 01:16PM

Marty McFly wrote: »

As much as tonight was a nothing match it did also highlight how weak our squad is, United second string would probably be Wellbeck and Hernandez, City would have played Dzeko or Balotelli we played Chamakh, Gervinho and Arshavin all dreadful.

These are all Wengers players, players he decided were good enough to put on the Arsenal jersey. We gave Squillaci a run for fcuk sake he shouldnt be in our team at all yet hes our second string another player signed by Wenger and none of them fit to wear the jersey.

Comparing our squads to United's and City's is pretty unfair - Arsene has to look in the bargain bucket for an awful lot of his and hope he finds a rough diamond. City and United go for polished versions every time (Bebe proving to be an odd exception) The financial constraints Wenger is under are far greater than either of those 2 clubs.

emergingstar · 05-12-2012 01:18PM

I'd start rosicky the weekend, push cazorla wide and drop podolski

Get rosicky and cazorla swapping positions hopefully it will speed up our play a bit

greendom · 05-12-2012 01:29PM

emergingstar wrote: »

I'd start rosicky the weekend, push cazorla wide and drop podolski

Get rosicky and cazorla swapping positions hopefully it will speed up our play a bit

Aside from the goal - excellent finish- Rosicky looked very bright last night combatitive and forward thinking - could give the midfield the impetus it needs in coming weeks.

Marty McFly · 05-12-2012 02:14PM

greendom wrote: »

Comparing our squads to United's and City's is pretty unfair - Arsene has to look in the bargain bucket for an awful lot of his and hope he finds a rough diamond. City and United go for polished versions every time (Bebe proving to be an odd exception) The financial constraints Wenger is under are far greater than either of those 2 clubs.

While you can say that for City, you cant against Uniteds there second string Welbeck being a product of there youth system and Hernandez was reportedly bought for 6 million pounds. Hernandez would arguably be a guaranteed starter were he at Arsenal.

wonga77 · 05-12-2012 02:27PM

I think Giroud and Chamakh could work well together, Giroud is good at knocking down ball but needs an actual striker beside him.
It couldnt be any worse than what we're doing anyway, every time Gervinho gets the ball you just know he's going to made a balls of it

Arsenal Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 12/13 MOD POST #232

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