Where to dump bad silage?

20silkcut wrote: »

2011 silage cut in August of that year very stemmy grass cut and baled in 24 hours no wilting or shaking out or nothing and rain the day before. Very pissed off. Have 15 weanlings now. I will have to buy in silage/hay to keep them going. I wonder would 20 bales get them through till February. Will have early grass closed off since late sept by then.

Op sounds like it is very wet silage. get it tested. Break up a bale they may well eat the middle of the silage as only the outside may be rank. Get it tested the centre of the bales as well. If they eat the middle it will be a help however it will be a lot of work as half the bale will have to be dumped every day or so. If the part of the bale are good you may be able to use molasses with it.

Do not put ration/nuts on this type of silage makes it goo bad faster on the feed face. Even with a couple of kgs ration 15 weanlings 9300kfs) would need a bale ever 3-4 days and that would be that they all had access to the feed at the same time. They would just about be on subsistance diet no fancy weight gain. Molasses would be an option if you have access however be careful and test silage.

You should have a good idea yourself from the smell and colour of the silage. This wet silage is hard to preserve have some myself that I made in late september am feeding it at present cattle eating but not mad about it. But I know taht if it was left until next year it would not be great. Did yours get holes from crows in it was it stacked on end as opposed to on the flat my own opinion is that silage on the flat holds better.

Manoffeeling wrote: »

But,but they use bales of straw to filter water as it enters some water courses. And anyway, since cheese can be preserved in a bog for thousands of years, then why not silage? To be honest, I think the main reason bog water is so pollutant is because of the fine silt getting into fishes gills as opposed to the nitrogen levels.

Fish and other aquatic organisms need oxygen to live. As water moves past their gills or, microscopic bubbles of oxygen gas in the water, called dissolved oxygen (DO), are transferred from the water to their blood. Like any other gas diffusion process, the transfer is efficient only above certain concentrations. In other words, oxygen can be present in the water, but at too low a concentration to sustain aquatic life. Oxygen also is needed by virtually all algae and all macrophytes.
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[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]To the degree that pollution contributes oxygen-demanding organic matter (like sewage, lawn clippings, soils from streambank and lakeshore erosion, and from agricultural runoff) or nutrients that stimulate growth of organic matter, pollution causes a decrease in average DO concentrations. If the organic matter is formed in the lake, for example by algal growth, at least some oxygen is produced during growth to offset the eventual loss of oxygen during decomposition. However, in lakes where a large portion of the organic matter is brought in from outside the lake, oxygen production and oxygen consumption are not balanced and low DO may become even more of a problem. [/FONT]

Not worried at all, just couldn't believe someone suggesting burying silage bales in a bog!

Manoffeeling wrote: »

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Anything from a peatland to a marsh, bogs have a low PH 3, WHICH INCLUDE A LOW NUTRIENT LEVEL, so it's not the same organic matter as rotten silage that is high in N which in turn can cause a decrease in dissolved oxygen concentrations especially during decomposition, marsh bogs all run into the rivers and streams that surround us. Boglands are protected and rightly so, if mankind is so ignorant to their ecology then rules/directives (which go over the top) must be put in place to try and protect them. Yesterday 14:24

pakalasa wrote: »

I meant Option 2, as "Flat Side Down". I find the birds don't hole it as much. Bales are also less likely to split and sag.

How could option 1 be "Flat side down"? :rolleyes:

I did not use the flat side down I used the expression ''on the end or on the flat''. In option 1 if they are stacked 2-3 high and are less than 30%DM the part on the ground gets flat fast.

If you had hay outside which option would you use if it was not covered.:eek: