Liverpool FC Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 12/13

opr · 30-11-2012 12:56AM

RasTa wrote: »

40k a week is too much tbh. Interesting situation if true. I couldn't see us paying it but City...

You say that but at the end of the day the market dictates the price. Chelsea/City and a few others I'm sure would have no problem offering those kind of wages. I'm not just saying this as a Liverpool fan but he should have people around him that realise those sides won't afford him anything like the playing time he's currently getting at Liverpool which is the most important thing at this stage of his development and for his career. His agent though will most likely be ignoring that and just be looking for the most money he can get him.

Opr

Washington Irving · 30-11-2012 12:58AM

googled eyes wrote: »

Ive got a horrible little feeling we could loose the kid.

Well so long as we don't lose him it's ok.

Sorry, but that's the third time I've seen that spelling error in the thread today

kippy · 30-11-2012 01:00AM

opr wrote: »

His agent though will most likely be ignoring that and just be looking for the most money he can get him.

Opr

Ultimately that is his job, isn't it?
He may never be in as good a position to get a decent "pay day" for his client and himself....

BorneTobyWilde · 30-11-2012 01:01AM

5starpool wrote: »

This thread would explode if he refused to sign a new deal.

amiable · 30-11-2012 01:03AM

Kess73 wrote: »

Well you got Hoillet to QPR spot on about a month before it happened........

Gary Jacob is the source this time

Blatter · 30-11-2012 01:04AM

RasTa wrote: »

40k a week is too much tbh. Interesting situation if true. I couldn't see us paying it but City...

I think Utd would tbh. He's an exceptional talent and if you have to pay a bit extra on wages at the start for the chance to secure his services over the next 15+ years, it'd be worth it.

Could see Chelsea and City def being interested though and you'd have to think he'd chose them over Utd given that he's currently at Liverpool, it'd just be easier and it's what the club would much prefer if he did have to leave.

Does anyone have any indication as to what kind of love he has for Liverpool? That'll probably be the major factor as to whether he'll sign a new contract or not because I have little doubt that other clubs are/will be sniffing around him.

mike65 · 30-11-2012 01:09AM

If he signs for Liverpool he plays, at City he rots in splendid company.

opr · 30-11-2012 01:11AM

kippy wrote: »

Ultimately that is his job, isn't it?
He may never be in as good a position to get a decent "pay day" for his client and himself....

If it was a player who was beyond the development stage who was say 22/23 then I would say yes. I think at 17 the most important thing for the player is that they're getting regular football. Yeah a small chance that it might be his last big chance but in Sterling case that's a tiny risk. I think in terms of team selection at 17 the most important factor should be regular first team football with the best team possible and not money. Money is of course a factor but it's not like he isn't being offered a reasonable wage.

Opr

Blatter · 30-11-2012 01:11AM

mike65 wrote: »

If he signs for Liverpool he plays, at City he rots in splendid company.

Not necessarily. It could be argued that he'd develop better at a club where he's only getting 20 starts + 20 sub appearances over the next couple of seasons.

5starpool · 30-11-2012 01:13AM

Blatter wrote: »

Does anyone have any indication as to what kind of love he has for Liverpool? That'll probably be the major factor as to whether he'll sign a new contract or not because I have little doubt that other clubs are/will be sniffing around him.

I wouldn't be surprised if he was open to a move away, with London being the likely destination as that's where hs family are I believe, and he came from QPR. I do think he will sign a new contract before the new year though.

klose · 30-11-2012 01:15AM

Blatter wrote: »

Not necessarily. It could be argued that he'd develop better at a club where he's only getting 20 starts + 20 sub appearances over the next couple of seasons.

Na, he wouldnt make the bench of either manchester clubs, would barely get a look in at the london clubs either.

opr · 30-11-2012 01:18AM

Blatter wrote: »

Does anyone have any indication as to what kind of love he has for Liverpool? That'll probably be the major factor as to whether he'll sign a new contract or not because I have little doubt that other clubs are/will be sniffing around him.

Honestly at this stage I wouldn't say a great deal but I don't know how that may have changed since breaking into the first team. He was reportedly homesick, very unsettled in Liverpool a while back and the club moved his family down with him to help with those problems. London boy so if he was to take a move I'd say his first choice would be back to London.

Opr

Blatter · 30-11-2012 01:19AM

whippedcream wrote: »

Na, he wouldnt make the bench of either manchester clubs, would barely get a look in at the london clubs either.

If Scott Sinclair can make the bench for City....

He's actually a player that City could do with. They don't really have any other player like him, he's a really talented natural winger that'd provide them with another option.

As for United, it seems likely that Nani will leave soon and imo somebody like Sterling would be the perfect replacement given the attacking options they have already.

I think he'd definitely make the bench/start a lot for Chelsea/Spurs/Arsenal.

kippy · 30-11-2012 01:19AM

opr wrote: »

If it was a player who was beyond the development stage who was say 22/23 then I would say yes. I think at 17 the most important thing for the player is that they're getting regular football. Yeah a small chance that it might be his last big chance but in Sterling case that's a tiny risk. I think in terms of team selection at 17 the most important factor should be regular first team football with the best team possible and not money. Money is of course a factor but it's not like he isn't being offered a reasonable wage.

Opr

How many 17 year olds with "promise" have vanished into almost obscurity?

opr · 30-11-2012 01:21AM

Blatter wrote: »

Not necessarily. It could be argued that he'd develop better at a club where he's only getting 20 starts + 20 sub appearances over the next couple of seasons.

Would he even be getting near that kind of playing time? Look at Scott Sinclair since his move.

Opr

hefferboi · 30-11-2012 01:22AM

My team for Southampton:

Reina

Wisdom----Skrtel

Agger

Johnson

Lucas/Allen

Allen/Suso

Sahin

----Suso/Enrique

Assaidi

Suarez

If Lucas is fit enough I'd like to see him start. Southampton aren't a physical side so he shouldn't really be too risky. If he is fit enough I'd have Allen and Sahin ahead of him with Suso, Assaidi and Suarez in the front three.

If he's not fit enough I'd drop Allen back and have Sahin and Suso ahead of him. I'd bring in Enrique and switch him with Assaidi.

Its an ideal match to rest Gerrard and Sterling as we're up against the weakest defence in the league and I'd love to see Assaidi get his first start.

Southampton are playing well at the moment and have a very good team, attacking wise. Have watched them a lot this season and they're starting to get rewards for they way they've gone at teams. Gaston Ramirez is their main threat but Lallana and Puncheon are very good also.

At the back they're prone to error and I think we have enough to beat them by 2, even though we haven't been great in front of goal. If Suarez turns up though it could be more.

As we keep saying, this is a must win and I'm hoping Rodgers gets it right.

Blatter · 30-11-2012 01:24AM

5starpool wrote: »

I wouldn't be surprised if he was open to a move away, with London being the likely destination as that's where hs family are I believe, and he came from QPR. I do think he will sign a new contract before the new year though.

opr wrote: »

Honestly at this stage I wouldn't say a great deal but I don't know how that may have changed since breaking into the first team. He was reportedly homesick, very unsettled in Liverpool a while back and the club moved his family down with him to help with those problems. London boy so if he was to take a move I'd say his first choice would be back to London.

Opr

Liverpool have a huge fan base and there's been a lot of love for Sterling this season after his breakthrough. I'd be surprised if that didn't have a big effect on your average 17 year old. Everyone's different though I suppose.

smileyj1987 · 30-11-2012 01:24AM

I would go with this for Southampton

Reina

Wisdom----Skrtel

Agger

Johnson

Lucas

Allen

Sahin

----Gerrard

Enrique

Suarez

opr · 30-11-2012 01:27AM

kippy wrote: »

How many 17 year olds with "promise" have vanished into almost obscurity?

Not many with his talent who're getting regular first team football already at 17 in the premiership. I would also argue that your point is precisely the reason that you should be looking out for him on a footballing level to give him the best chance of that not happening. At the end of the day the dream is to be a professional footballer for many years not to get a pay day at 17.

Opr

Blatter · 30-11-2012 01:30AM

opr wrote: »

Would he even be getting near that kind of playing time? Look at Scott Sinclair since his move.

Opr

I think he's far better than Scott Sinclair and would get more game time than him. City's 'plan B' is usually to take off a forward player and push Yaya Toure further up. I think Sterling would be another option that could genuinely change a game. I don't think Scott Sinclair gives you that and that's why he isn't used that much. I still don't understand why City bought him. To have more home grown players? Buy one that will actually make a difference!

klose · 30-11-2012 01:36AM

Blatter wrote: »

If Scott Sinclair can make the bench for City....

He's actually a player that City could do with. They don't really have any other player like him, he's a really talented natural winger that'd provide them with another option.

As for United, it seems likely that Nani will leave soon and imo somebody like Sterling would be the perfect replacement given the attacking options they have already.

I think he'd definitely make the bench/start a lot for Chelsea/Spurs/Arsenal.

Yeah he does but how often does he play? I cant remember him ever playing for em, i feel he was a signing mancini made for the sake of it tbh while there was a busget left over. Wed never sell to united either. Hes very good but he wouldnt be getting a quarter of the game time with any of the other 3 london clubs or 2 manchester clubs that he does with us.

hefferboi · 30-11-2012 01:38AM

I think Sterling is getting built up too much by a lot of people. He's still very raw and his end product is poor but he's had a good season so far. He's nowhere near a world beater yet and won't be for another few years. He needs to bulk up and sort out the silly frees he gives away (that will come with experience). If he's dropped it won't be the end of the world.

billybudd · 30-11-2012 01:42AM

amiable wrote: »

Are Southampton interested?

You sound worried :pac:

billybudd · 30-11-2012 01:44AM

hefferboi wrote: »

I think Sterling is getting built up too much by a lot of people. He's still very raw and his end product is poor but he's had a good season so far. He's nowhere near a world beater yet and won't be for another few years. He needs to bulk up and sort out the silly frees he gives away (that will come with experience). If he's dropped it won't be the end of the world.

We haventh much else to be excited about.

hefferboi · 30-11-2012 01:46AM

billybudd wrote: »

We haventh much else to be excited about.

He'll be class I've no doubt about it.

Blatter · 30-11-2012 01:51AM

whippedcream wrote: »

Yeah he does but how often does he play? I cant remember him ever playing for em, i feel he was a signing mancini made for the sake of it tbh while there was a busget left over. Wed never sell to united either. Hes very good but he wouldnt be getting a quarter of the game time with any of the other 3 london clubs or 2 manchester clubs that he does with us.

Not often, but as I said above I don't think he's anywhere near Sterling in terms of talent or ability to change a game.

hefferboi wrote: »

I think Sterling is getting built up too much by a lot of people. He's still very raw and his end product is poor but he's had a good season so far. He's nowhere near a world beater yet and won't be for another few years. He needs to bulk up and sort out the silly frees he gives away (that will come with experience). If he's dropped it won't be the end of the world.

I don't think he's been built up too much.

He's an extraordinary talent considering the level he's performing at, at the age of 17. That's not saying he's currently the best winger in the PL or that he shouldn't be nurtured properly - it's just saying it how it is.

You allude to his end product as being poor, I don't think it is. It's inconsistent but that's the case for most wingers at all ages, even the very best ones. I think his end product is hugely impressive for his age.

Fizman · 30-11-2012 01:59AM

Anyone else notice the error in SSNs report on Gerrard tonight?

They had his stats on screen for about 10 mins......14 games.....1 goal.....2 assists.

That got me thinking.....how the hell does he have so many points in Fantasy Football if those are his stats? I check FF site and there he is, 12th highest performing MF in the whole league. 2 goals and 4 assists.

Anyway, carry on......:p

daithijjj · 30-11-2012 03:27AM

Fizman wrote: »

Anyone else notice the error in SSNs report on Gerrard tonight?

They had his stats on screen for about 10 mins......14 games.....1 goal.....2 assists.

That got me thinking.....how the hell does he have so many points in Fantasy Football if those are his stats? I check FF site and there he is, 12th highest performing MF in the whole league. 2 goals and 4 assists.

Anyway, carry on......:p

FF has to go with scores as they are the day or two after the game. The dodgy goals panel alter them later, FF doesnt wait for that. Don know if they alter assists, cant see why they would be arsed.

Careful what you read on sky.

Sir Gallagher · 30-11-2012 03:37AM

Another nothing story from the Daily Mail

The quote from Suso about Enrique is surprisingly accurate and funny.

'What f*** is he doing? This guy is gay, he has some mental problems. He does everything except play football.'

Washington Irving · 30-11-2012 04:31AM

daithijjj wrote: »

Liverpool FC Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 12/13

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