Liverpool FC Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 12/13

29-11-2012 08:34PM

T-K-O wrote: »

crying about Rafa and Kenny is futile. Time will tell if BR and FSG are true to their word

Obviously.

There's no harm in questioning them though is there? If the owners don't invest in the squad its mid table for Liverpool this season.

Will a mid table finish keep Suarez and attract top players? Doubtful.

Invest in Jan and the team could challenge top 6 +. Top 4 imo won't happen. Arsenal and Spurs squads are much better atm and the best squads finish higher in the league. However, some investment and a decent 2nd half to the season might show that there's some hope for a top 4 challenge for next season.

Time to walk the walk for the owners.

T-K-O · 29-11-2012 08:40PM

rarnes1 wrote: »

Obviously.

There's no harm in questioning them though is there? If the owners don't invest in the squad its mid table for Liverpool this season.

Will a mid table finish keep Suarez and attract top players? Doubtful.

Invest in Jan and the team could challenge top 6 +. Top 4 imo won't happen. Arsenal and Spurs squads are much better atm and the best squads finish higher in the league. However, some investment and a decent 2nd half to the season might show that there's some hope for a top 4 challenge for next season.

Time to walk the walk for the owners.

I totally agree. We are not that far away. The problem is, we all including me want a quick fix and that aint gonna happen.

Same goes for January its difficult to get value in Jan, unless the club have something up their sleeve. Unearth another Saurez ?? Easier said than done.

But I remain hopeful :eek:

~Rebel~ · 29-11-2012 09:17PM

T-K-O wrote: »

I totally agree. We are not that far away. The problem is, we all including me want a quick fix and that aint gonna happen.

Same goes for January its difficult to get value in Jan, unless the club have something up their sleeve. Unearth another Saurez ?? Easier said than done.

But I remain hopeful :eek:

Pet peeve, but this gets repeated far too often. One needs to only look at last January to see absolutely loads of terrific value players snapped up by other clubs. We didn't bother getting the striker or centre midfielder we very clearly desperately needed, and it cost us big time.

T-K-O · 29-11-2012 09:34PM

~Rebel~ wrote: »

Pet peeve, but this gets repeated far too often. One needs to only look at last January to see absolutely loads of terrific value players snapped up by other clubs. We didn't bother getting the striker or centre midfielder we very clearly desperately needed, and it cost us big time.

No clubs wants to loose a player ( a decent player) in that window

Players can be found in January I.E saurez but if we wont Walcott and or Sturridge it will cost more in Jan than it would in the summer.

joe123 · 29-11-2012 09:39PM

Mr Alan wrote: »

At what point is it acceptable to sit forward and discuss?

My guess would be...

The owners - Should already be under scrutiny. Made a mess of our Summer window. Doing alot of hiring and firing. No action on the stadium. The optimist could look at it this way ;

They gave Kenny/Commolli the guts of 100 million to spend and it was blown. Obviously this will make them alot more cautious. The wage bill was ridiculous too.

Owners possibly going in with the frame of mind of "fix this mess".

Come the 1st of February will tell us alot more. If we are still strikerless with pittance spent, well then yes its time to get seriously worried.

Rodgers - Definitely not after the summer window we've just had, Definitely not after 14 games in the league.

The time to start seriously discussing Rodgers will be after this season. Lets see what sort of players he brings in, lets start seeing some of the results once his "system" is fully in place and the team has had time to adjust.

If we are sitting in the same place this time next year with only 16 points with no sign of improvement? THEN its time to start discussing.

It would also be important to note, our newly hired scouts were stuck on gardening leave for ages. Think they have only started.

The sheer lack of patience is shocking.

Kerrigooney · 29-11-2012 09:40PM

T-K-O wrote: »

No clubs wants to loose a player ( a decent player) in that window

Players can be found in January I.E saurez but if we wont Walcott and or Sturridge it will cost more in Jan than it would in the summer.

If Sturridge is seen as the answer to our problems then our problems are bigger than we thought.

DDC1990 · 29-11-2012 09:47PM

suso30fernandez ‏@suso30fernandez
What f**k is he doing?... This guy is gay . He has some mentals problems. He does everything except play football. pic.twitter.com/eOtEU6nU

Pic was of Enrique :P

Posted this since. Could get in trouble for it though :P

suso30fernandez ‏@suso30fernandez
I didn't mean it in that way about 'gay'. Don't want anyone to feel offended or something this. Just jooking.. But anyways sorry.

EDIT: This is the pic.

Suso is indeed correct :P

5starpool · 29-11-2012 09:52PM

Footballers should be fined for using twitter imo.

whatawaster · 29-11-2012 09:53PM

DDC1990 wrote: »

Pic was of Enrique :P

Posted this since. Could get in trouble for it though :P

EDIT: This is the pic.

Suso is indeed correct :P

The bad English makes it hilarious.

Unfortunately I can also see it making headlines. Twitter is evil.

29-11-2012 09:56PM

Forgive my naivity, but wtf is Enrique doing there?

doc_17 · 29-11-2012 09:58PM

So the general consensus is we won't qualify for the CL this year and with investment we might the year after. That's almost 2 full years away from MAYBE CL football. Suarez won't stay that long. A bug offer will come in and he will leave. For players as good as he is it's not about playing CL football, it's about challenging and winning top leagues and CLs. Unless a dramatic set of events unfolds this may be his last year with us.

LuckyLloyd · 29-11-2012 10:00PM

doc_17 wrote: »

So the general consensus is we won't qualify for the CL this year and with investment we might the year after. That's almost 2 full years away from MAYBE CL football. Suarez won't stay that long. A bug offer will come in and he will leave. For players as good as he is it's not about playing CL football, it's about challenging and winning top leagues and CLs. Unless a dramatic set of events unfolds this may be his last year with us.

Yep, highly unlikely he sticks around for another year of this rubbish. He is like a flower grown out of a pot of dirt right now.

Kerrigooney · 29-11-2012 10:07PM

LuckyLloyd wrote: »

Yep, highly unlikely he sticks around for another year of this rubbish. He is like a flower grown out of a pot of dirt right now.

Indeed. And Daniel ****ing Sturridge will be his replacement.

Happy days.

BorneTobyWilde · 29-11-2012 10:13PM

Would Real loan us Morata
Rodgers well in with Jose
How we got Sahin I'll never know
Must have being a word in Sahins ear
He was at Arsenal virtually ,

Ardent · 29-11-2012 10:15PM

rarnes1 wrote: »

Forgive my naivity, but wtf is Enrique doing there?

Having his teeth whitened I would imagine?

Mr Alan · 29-11-2012 10:17PM

BorneTobyWilde wrote: »

Would Real loan us Morata
Rodgers well in with Jose
How we got Sahin I'll never know
Must have being a word in Sahins ear
He was at Arsenal virtually ,

Not working out particularly well thus far.

GBX · 29-11-2012 10:17PM

rarnes1 wrote: »

Forgive my naivity, but wtf is Enrique doing there?

Its the new plan the owners have in place for making the players go round with smiles on their faces all the time to promote a more positive team spirit in order to win games :pac:

joe123 · 29-11-2012 10:21PM

Mr Alan wrote: »

Not working out particularly well thus far.

You were asking one of the lads on here to answer your question regarding rodgers/FSG and the timeframe. I gave my thoughts in post 3396

Would be genuinely interested to see what you think considering your coming at this from a different angle than me.

Kerrigooney · 29-11-2012 10:24PM

BorneTobyWilde wrote: »

Would Real loan us Morata
Rodgers well in with Jose
How we got Sahin I'll never know
Must have being a word in Sahins ear
He was at Arsenal virtually ,

Have you got some kind of random word generator ?

Mr Alan · 29-11-2012 10:29PM

joe123 wrote: »

You were asking one of the lads on here to answer your question regarding rodgers/FSG and the timeframe. I gave my thoughts in post 3396

Would be genuinely interested to see what you think considering your coming at this from a different angle than me.

I think Jan is make or break for FSG. The signs are pretty bad currently for them.

For Rodgers, he should be judged as the season progresses, as Llyod pointed out last night, he's managed nearly 30 games at Liverpool. It's fine to judge him thus far on those. And it's not been good enough. Not even nearly.

I think if our results haven't improved by Jan, he'll be in FSG's crosshairs.

BorneTobyWilde · 29-11-2012 10:33PM

Mr Alan wrote: »

Not working out particularly well thus far.

It was ok until he was told
The box is evil !
Never go in there
Funny he enjoyed it in there
Scoring goals

Leiva · 29-11-2012 10:34PM

BorneTobyWilde wrote: »

It was ok until he was told
The box is evil !
Never go in there
Funny he enjoyed it in there
Scoring goals

Beautiful sonnet.

BorneTobyWilde · 29-11-2012 10:37PM

Sahin being ok when he gets look in
11 appearances 3 goals 3 assists
Just needs games, Lucas in
Sterling rested, Gerrard forward
Sahin in

kippy · 29-11-2012 10:39PM

doc_17 wrote: »

So the general consensus is we won't qualify for the CL this year and with investment we might the year after. That's almost 2 full years away from MAYBE CL football. Suarez won't stay that long. A bug offer will come in and he will leave. For players as good as he is it's not about playing CL football, it's about challenging and winning top leagues and CLs. Unless a dramatic set of events unfolds this may be his last year with us.

2 years?
No chance. Not unless a few hundred million are pumped into the club and are spent well.
You just have to look at the clubs you are competing against and where they are currently going/financial position then have a review of where yer current squad is at.

BR talks a good talk (most of the time) but as many have said things have to start changing on the pitch soon. Mind you LFC had a relatively tough fixture list starting out, the next 6 weeks aren't so bad so that will give a good outline of where they are heading.

PRAF · 29-11-2012 10:40PM

LuckyLloyd wrote: »

Yep, highly unlikely he sticks around for another year of this rubbish. He is like a flower grown out of a pot of dirt right now.

Lloyd you worry too much. Too much worrying will turn you into a grumpy old man.

If Suarez wants to leave next year we'll just sell him and reinvest. Man u recovered after selling Ronaldo, Newcastle recovered after selling Andy Carroll, LFC recovered after selling our best players in the past (Keenan, rush, etc.). It happens all the time.

No player is bigger than the club.

Leiva · 29-11-2012 10:46PM

PRAF wrote: »

No player is bigger than the club.

At this particular point in history Suarez is probably more important than anyone at the club right now with the important goals he has scored recently, goals that have kept us out of the bottom of the league.

It might only be a short space in time but don't under estimate the importance of Luis Suarez to this club at this particular time in history.
We are not Man Utd with the ability to sell a prize asset and have cover available, we are not City or Chelsea and go to market and over pay for what we want... we are a struggling club with no real light at the end of the tunnel (yet).
Lose Suarez in our current state and we may aswell forget about it for a decade or so.

kippy · 29-11-2012 10:46PM

PRAF wrote: »

Lloyd you worry too much. Too much worrying will turn you into a grumpy old man.

If Suarez wants to leave next year we'll just sell him and reinvest. Man u recovered after selling Ronaldo, Newcastle recovered after selling Andy Carroll, LFC recovered after selling our best players in the past (Keenan, rush, etc.). It happens all the time.

Are you serious??
It's all about WHO YOU REINVEST IN.
I think recent past history will show that LFC haven't a particularly good record in investing large sums of money in playing staff........

joe123 · 29-11-2012 11:15PM

Mr Alan wrote: »

I think Jan is make or break for FSG. The signs are pretty bad currently for them.

For Rodgers, he should be judged as the season progresses, as Llyod pointed out last night, he's managed nearly 30 games at Liverpool. It's fine to judge him thus far on those. And it's not been good enough. Not even nearly.

I think if our results haven't improved by Jan, he'll be in FSG's crosshairs.

I think we would all agree on the owners. I'm worried that they will spout the "there isnt value in the January window" line even though Newcastle seemed to do well with Cisse!

I dont agree on Rodgers though. That sort of process should be alot longer unless its something obvious such as they way Hodgsons was going. Horrible football and all the wrong things being said from the off.

As a whole Rodgers has been pretty good in the media. I just feel some people are waiting to jump on anything he says/does.

Look at the way Klopp and Dortmund started out. Didnt they finish 11th in their first season? And Klopp had previously been sacked at his former club. Im sure there were dortmund fans worried then too.

djPSB · 29-11-2012 11:26PM

BorneTobyWilde wrote: »

It was ok until he was told
The box is evil !
Never go in there
Funny he enjoyed it in there
Scoring goals

Suarez.

I wander lonely as a cloud.....

PRAF · 29-11-2012 11:26PM

Leiva wrote: »

At this particular point in history Suarez is probably more important than anyone at the club right now with the important goals he has scored recently, goals that have kept us out of the bottom of the league.

It might only be a short space in time but don't under estimate the importance of Luis Suarez to this club at this particular time in history.
We are not Man Utd with the ability to sell a prize asset and have cover available, we are not City or Chelsea and go to market and over pay for what we want... we are a struggling club with no real light at the end of the tunnel (yet).
Lose Suarez in our current state and we may aswell forget about it for a decade or so.

Ludicrous

10 years me hole

I repeat. No player is bigger than the club. Nobody

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