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youcancallmeal · 20-11-2012 12:02PM

TheDoc wrote: »

I thought targeted assassinations was one of his strengths?

I remember numerous references to him discussing things like having to "hide out" after making a hit and other references to killing.

While he might have been a bit lost in an open fight, I got the impression he knew his way around a single, targeted hit.

I hope they give us a flashback showing how it went down but knowing the way Boardwalk Empire is there probably won't even be a mention of it in the next episode except for a grieving Margaret.

TheDoc · 20-11-2012 12:28PM

youcancallmeal wrote: »

I hope they give us a flashback showing how it went down but knowing the way Boardwalk Empire is there probably won't even be a mention of it in the next episode except for a grieving Margaret.

Can only assume that the target was preparded, led them in and organised something.

What I guess it s nitpick, is that Charlie wasn't present during the organisation of the plan, so how he knew specifics I've no idea. He maybe passed on some info like " This is who Thompson will use to do it", gave a description, and they clocked him in the city or something, no idea.

TwoShedsJackson · 20-11-2012 01:37PM

youcancallmeal wrote: »

I hope they give us a flashback showing how it went down but knowing the way Boardwalk Empire is there probably won't even be a mention of it in the next episode except for a grieving Margaret.

A show like this doesn't need to show it. They had the Gyp killing on the beach this episode, which was violent enough let's face it.

And the point of Eoin's death, plot-wise, is to show that Luciano informed Masseria that it was happening in advance, and for Nucky to realise that there was something going on between Margaret and Eoin.

I loved the way they held back the later part of the 'I'm pregnant' scene until after you saw Eoin was dead, gave it a good bit of extra emotional impact.

Dave! · 20-11-2012 02:11PM

Margaret's poker face isn't the best

Roar · 20-11-2012 08:19PM

How did luciano know the hit was happening at that specific place and that specific time though? Did I miss something?

Handsome Bob · 20-11-2012 08:23PM

If I had to guess I'd say Mickey (he was in the room when Nucky was telling Owen what to do and Luciano does have links to Mickey), or maybe even the FBI guy did a double cross. After all, there's no confirmation that the latter was also murdered.

colinod0806 · 20-11-2012 08:25PM

When someone says something that isn't to Gyp's liking, I find myself feeling nervous awaiting his reaction as if i was the person who said it.
That's probably the biggest compliment I could pay the actor who plays him.

The Richard love story is grating on me if I'm honest. I just cant seem to care where it is going.

I liked Owen before the whole running away with Margaret storyline as I thought he had ideas of moving up the ranks fairly quickly and that could have been interesting.
But in the end any bad thing that happens to Margaret is a good thing in my book.

Also, it was good to see that it looks like Chalky will be featuring more often as he has been criminally under used of late imo.

Clareman · 21-11-2012 01:33AM

With Owen/Eoin/Eoghan having such difficulty killing the guy last season in the bathroom with the garrote it's strange that he'd go after the boss of a family like that. Richard's romance I think is great, he clearly looks at the lad as his son, he'll have to get granny out of the way and she's not exactly flavour of the month with New Yorkers either.

leggo · 21-11-2012 02:12AM

colinod0806 wrote: »

The Richard love story is grating on me if I'm honest. I just cant seem to care where it is going.

Tbh, and this is pure speculation (but I'll spoiler it just to be on the safe side):

I have a feeling this is just a building process with that particular storyline. We've seen how Richard has lost everything he once held dear in life with Jimmy and his wife being murdered. Now we see him happy and are meant to be relieved for him to just enjoy some peace in this world.

Yeah...that girl doesn't stand a chance. I'm guessing they encounter Gyp somehow down the line and make Richard the bad ass we saw at the start of the series, permanently.

Having Richard on his team will also give Nucky some likeability back, which he needs big-time if this show is going to go on for another few series. We can see the writers heading in that direction by having him appear much more vulnerable over the past few episodes (concussed, alone, clueless about his wife's affair until the big reveal).

royster999 · 21-11-2012 02:26AM

colinod0806 wrote: »

Also, it was good to see that it looks like Chalky will be featuring more often as he has been criminally under used of late imo.

Quote of the episode:

Chalky: Tuxedos and chandalabras
Nucky: Chandeliers
Chalky: I aint got to spell 'em, just pay for em'

dr gonzo · 21-11-2012 08:28PM

Was thinking the same Leggo, the fact that the relationship is moving so fast and that we can see Richard unpacking guns in the promo (?) then I really think something is going to happen to her, or worse still, the kid. The thing I love about Richard and Van Alden is that they are both likable, capable, and above all brutally unflinching when put on the spot. I dont think it needs to be said that in the past they have shown themselves to be complete badasses, and the fact that they are just hanging in the wind at the moment tells me that sh1t is about to go down. What has me most excited is that with Van Alden informing on O'Banion means hes done with them, and Capone probably wont want him (although that is a possibility) so he might actually wind up in Atlantic City again. Could you imagine Harrow, Van Alden and Chalkey in a fight together? Words couldnt describe the epicness.

Incidentally I knew when I was watching it that Chalkey showing up at the 11th hour and being denied a request was going to backfire on Nucky. Ultimately though Chalkey is the only ally Nucky has left so it'll be an interesting episode next!

Actually cant wait to see what happens to Gyp too. If he continues into next season I will be pissed. I think everyone is pretty much in agreement that Harrow is going to be the one to do it. Its going to tv at its finest.

EDIT: Jaysus I need to breath after watching BE episodes. I come on here and go full stream-of-consiousness on everyone. Apologies!

CastorTroy · 21-11-2012 11:53PM

I think Nucky will take care of Maragaret. Unfortunately I mean that in the way we don't want him to "take care" of her. The look on his face said he realised what was going on, but he understood and accepted it.

I liked Owen, unless he was with Margaret. Don't know where the story's going with Van Alden. Completely differsnt person from when we first met him. And I like Richard being happy but at the same time if it means he gets into a more active role, I want him to lose that happiness.

spitfireIRL · 22-11-2012 01:58AM

Brilliant episode. Gyp Rosetti has to go, end of story.

K3lso · 22-11-2012 05:47PM

So any suggestions where the next season is going?!

Historical

I'm not sure if it's still 1923. I know at the start it was 1923 but was there an episode showing a new year? O'Bannion was killed in 1924 so that is going down at the start of next season. After that, I think we'll see the introduction of Bugs Moran and the war between Capone and the Irish gangs. I think they're going to pay attention to O'Bannion ripping off Torrio in a deal, then see Torrio stepping down. Capone will rise and perhaps we'll see the conflict between a new character, Elliot Ness and The Untouchables.

I think the big villan next season is going to be Masseria. With Gyp out of the way, Nucky will have to turn his attention to Masseria. Arnold Rothstein will be killed off next season too I'd imagine. If I remember, he was shot in 1928. They're probably going to have to make some timeline jumps next season or else completely fictionalise a series worth of material but I do enjoy the historical significance and very little happened between these events.

Not sure what they're going to do with van Alden and Harrow but Nucky will re-marry. So where does Margaret go? I think the end of next season will conclude with the St. Valentines Day Massacre. So it seems we're in for an exciting 4th season too.

They're not going to skip over these events and jump straight into the Castellammarese War so as far as I can see, Masseria will be sticking around for a few seasons to come. We'll just have to wait a few years for Owen to be avenged.

Prop Joe · 22-11-2012 10:12PM

Gyp is boring me....Loved the last episode,The scene with Owen in the box was magic.........Altho....Why would Nucky get up at 4am to open the package & Why after the bomb going off would he open a large package like that in the hotel?:o

I'll have more of "George Muller" please...Get him and Al together and back Nucky...Al might want to recruit Richard aswell...Which might lead to Richard replacing Owen

dr gonzo · 23-11-2012 12:07AM

Prop Joe wrote: »

Gyp is boring me....Loved the last episode,The scene with Owen in the box was magic.........Altho....Why would Nucky get up at 4am to open the package & Why after the bomb going off would he open a large package like that in the hotel?:o

I'll have more of "George Muller" please...Get him and Al together and back Nucky...Al might want to recruit Richard aswell...Which might lead to Richard replacing Owen

Capone backing Nucky would be great actually. Hadnt considered that.

To answer your question, I would have thought it was because he was waiting on news all day, so getting a package at that time of the morning warranted investigation. Although your right about the bomb aspect, thats a good point...

Miprocin · 23-11-2012 01:53AM

Capone backing Nucky would be great actually. Hadnt considered that.

Seems like it could be likely. With Remus gone, Capone needs a supplier...

_Kaiser_ · 23-11-2012 06:36PM

Miprocin wrote: »

Seems like it could be likely. With Remus gone, Capone needs a supplier...

True, and given VA's obsession with nailing Nucky previously he would seem the obvious choice....

Thargor · 24-11-2012 01:06AM

Brilliant episode, not 100% sure it'll be Richard that kills Gyp.

I do predict a scene where Nucky is meeting with Capone and he sees Agent Harrow though.

Kilkenny14 · 26-11-2012 09:12AM

Another great episode, especially with the meeting with Capone and Nucky. “You and me sit down and we talk about who dies.”

Also, it will be very interesting to see what Harrow does next week, preferably starting with making Gillian pay for that blind comment.

Handsome Bob · 26-11-2012 10:08AM

What a tour de force of an episode from the very beginning! Easily the best episode of the season so far, which was helped by no Margaret (and I assume no Margaret next week either).

For a moment I thought Chalky and Purnsley had given up Nucky when they stopped the truck. I'm glad Chalky stayed loyal, but you couldn't have blamed him had he not. I think Chalky saw the same thing that Rothstein did earlier in the season i.e. Rosetti is way too much of a nut job to do business with. Hence Chalky's too old to make new friends remark.

The episode really had me on the edge until the very end, my heart even sank when Eli said "no...with him" when Nucky asked had he made a deal with Torrio....was expecting Gyp to walk out of the crowd rather than Capone.

Sir Digby Chicken Caesar · 26-11-2012 12:53PM

CAPONE

Clareman · 26-11-2012 01:53PM

WOW, just WOW, that was almost perfect TV, suspense, emotion, wonder, can't wait for next week now

ricero · 26-11-2012 03:50PM

great episode. i can see Richard bringing a reign of terror to that brothel next week to rescue Tommy

Corkfeen · 26-11-2012 05:41PM

That was one of the best episodes of tv that i've seen in a while. It's rather impressive when you're not sure if the lead might get killed off. I never really doubted Chalky as he always tended to be one of the more loyal characters. Nucky has a ton of bodies associated with him now. :pac:

tvnutz · 26-11-2012 06:52PM

Great episode, loved Capone at the end, lets have a chat about who is goin to get killed

leggo · 26-11-2012 07:04PM

Lads if they keep churning out episodes like that, this show could be up there with The Sopranos and The Wire. Absolutely loved this season and that episode was television perfection. I didn't think they'd move things along that fast with Rosetti, didn't see Capone coming at all, and actually cheered out loud when he did (my housemates are judging me right now as I write this).

Even just spending an hour watching Steve Buscemi and Michael K Williams doing their thing with a great script was an absolute pleasure. Add to that one of the best villains on TV and the big reveal with Al ****ing Capone at the end and...wow, is the only word. Cannot WAIT for next week!

dr gonzo · 26-11-2012 07:38PM

I love this thread. The sheer enthusiasm at the moment is class.

K3lso · 26-11-2012 07:47PM

Corkfeen wrote: »

That was one of the best episodes of tv that i've seen in a while. It's rather impressive when you're not sure if the lead might get killed off. I never really doubted Chalky as he always tended to be one of the more loyal characters. Nucky has a ton of bodies associated with him now. :pac:

Nucky won't get killed off. He's based on Nucky Johnson. He wasn't killed in real life.

leggo wrote: »

Absolutely loved this season and that episode was television perfection.

The last couple of episodes were great but I I thought the start of the season was extremely slow moving...for a while, I was going to give up on it tbh.

Here's the finale preview...

Antar Bolaeisk · 26-11-2012 07:57PM

As above, excellent episode and it's nice to see the build-up from throughout the season starting to pay off. It's going to be one hell of a finale next week. The fear and tension was very well played throughout.

One thing that paradoxically bothered me this week was Margaret's absence. I couldn't help but think about where she was and if her and the kids had been captured by Gyp's men. I know it was mentioned early on that they had been put on a carriage but it was never made clear where to. Ordinarily I can't wait for her to leave the screen.

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