Doomsday Preppers, are they nuts or wise?

Cargin · 11-11-2012 06:15PM

Madam_X wrote: »

Same here. Thought of the Guatemalan Insanity Peppers Homer ate, which caused hallucinations.

On topic: I've never understood the point of a fall-out shelter. It's not like you can go outside safely after a reasonable amount of time... unless you considered a few centuries to be same.

Well, it worked out pretty well for Christopher Walken in that film that time...

BrokenArrows · 11-11-2012 06:59PM

Madam_X wrote: »

On topic: I've never understood the point of a fall-out shelter. It's not like you can go outside safely after a reasonable amount of time... unless you considered a few centuries to be same.

It would be useful if you're on the edge of danger zone but ya not much use in ground zero.

sasta le · 11-11-2012 09:14PM

Shivers26 wrote: »

Nuts, absolutely nuts

I do find that show quite entertaining all the same. Only in America and all that.

The husband was on a survival course in work and last week he was dumped in the ar$ehole of Connemara with only the clothes on his back and a small survial tin (about the size of a lunch box that would only hold 1 sandwich). He didn't eat for a week. Just realistically if some disaster did occur, all the home jarred peaches in the world won't save you.

Is he a prepper?

seven_eleven · 11-11-2012 09:18PM

I keep reading the title as "Doomsday Peppers" and its really annoying me.

11-11-2012 09:19PM

seven_eleven wrote: »

I keep reading the title as "Doomsday Peppers" and its really annoying me.

Are they the extra, extra hot ones!

Conmaicne Mara · 12-11-2012 11:07AM

seven_eleven wrote: »

I keep reading the title as "Doomsday Peppers" and its really annoying me.

You'll have to look up canning now to make sure your peppers are in top condition for Doomsday.

12-11-2012 11:14AM

Conmaicne Mara wrote: »

You'll have to look up canning now to make sure your peppers are in top condition for Doomsday.

You'll find out all you need to know here!

RodeoClown · 17-11-2012 11:25AM

Hi All, you have some interesting thoughts on Prepping.

I think there is lot's of level's of prepping.... the extreme of Doomsday preppers that people have become aware of due to the tv show.
But also alot of us prep without realising it!
I store logs/wood in the summer for winter, this is prepping! My mother makes jam out of fruit that she grows in her garden again this is prepping.

I personally agree that Doomsday Preppers are extreme, but if you are into camping or outdoors activities these guys have some great products and ideas. Each to their own.

What do you guys think about this topic??

17-11-2012 12:11PM

RodeoClown wrote: »

Hi All, you have some interesting thoughts on Prepping.

I think there is lot's of level's of prepping.... the extreme of Doomsday preppers that people have become aware of due to the tv show.
But also alot of us prep without realising it!
I store logs/wood in the summer for winter, this is prepping! My mother makes jam out of fruit that she grows in her garden again this is prepping.

I personally agree that Doomsday Preppers are extreme, but if you are into camping or outdoors activities these guys have some great products and ideas. Each to their own.

What do you guys think about this topic??

What you're describing is basic preparation for the winter, something that almost everyone did until a couple of generations ago. Now we all rely on manufactured products being available throughout the year.

Preparation for seasonal variations is completely different from doomsday prepping because you are prepping for something that will happen (every year), rather than something that has a small to extremely unlikely probability of happening ever.

Prepping for bad weather, being trapped in the house during a snowstorm & losing power for a few days should not be considered extreme as it does happen from time to time if you live in an isolated area.

Run_to_da_hills · 17-11-2012 12:35PM

Those that do not to prepare could very well end up in a prison. :eek:

http://www.naturalnews.com/038005_FEMA_camp_prison_refugee_center.html

Mr Benevolent · 17-11-2012 02:07PM

Nuts. That said, a few things in the car could be handy someday.

Markcheese · 17-11-2012 11:20PM

It's one of those once you start thinking of it where do you stop....? To start with you just go buy a couple of cases of beans, and fruit (just in case).You want to heat your beans so you need a few gas bottles..., Then you start thinking about water...you have a well,great.. But the power could go out, so now you need a genny .... And loads of petrol.... Grand you have a stove for heating,so you could have a store of logs or coal... Okay to store all this you need a good shed... And you might want to think about security.. Cos some scumbag will prob try nick your stuff, so now you have a couple of attack dogs, and a store of dry dog food... Ah where do you stop ...

RodeoClown · 19-11-2012 01:32AM

lol Mark, I enjoyed reading your post makes a lot of sense.

but your right where does it stop?

20-02-2013 09:47PM

Most realistic prepping is common sense as above, the secret is anticipating the future crisis and doing whatever that is reasonably practicable to do to reduce the affects of the crisis. The question has to be, what is the most likely "doomsday" scenario that will have an adverse affect on you?

StinkyMunkey · 20-02-2013 09:59PM

Deleted User wrote: »

Most realistic prepping is common sense as above, the secret is anticipating the future crisis and doing whatever that is reasonably practicable to do to reduce the affects of the crisis. The question has to be, what is the most likely "doomsday" scenario that will have an adverse affect on you?

I think the doomsday scenario that would affect me most would be if the stopped making Bulmers/magners. That would pretty much e the end of the world for me - excuse me while I go get a cold can of Bulmers

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MaxSteele · 20-02-2013 10:00PM

To be honest, it looks like a bit of craic.

MadYaker · 20-02-2013 10:08PM

In reality, the most likely (but still fairly unlikely) serious event that might see us benefit from some dooms day prepping is an outbreak of nuclear war triggered by either Iran, Israel or North Korea.

20-02-2013 10:21PM

MadYaker wrote: »

In reality, the most likely (but still fairly unlikely) serious event that might see us benefit from some dooms day prepping is an outbreak of nuclear war triggered by either Iran, Israel or North Korea.

I would place a bet on peak oil, or should I say the economic fallout from oil prices rising to a point where there is another huge recession (just like 2008) but without the collapse in price next time, it'll just stay high. Best prep for that situation is a lifestyle that isn't car-dependent!

Capt'n Midnight · 21-02-2013 12:18PM

MadYaker wrote: »

In reality, the most likely (but still fairly unlikely) serious event that might see us benefit from some dooms day prepping is an outbreak of nuclear war triggered by either Iran, Israel or North Korea.

If you look at history you'll see that one rule that is generally followed is that you only use weapons of mass destruction if you are sure they won't be used back on you.

And that's going back to the use of crossbows against pagans.

Notable exceptions are the use of poison gas in WWI and the Blitz , and in both cases it could be argued that they weren't expecting to hit back.

If you exclude the Second Congo War and the wars of re-election / PR that are Iran / Afghanistan then it's been pretty quite on the global warfare front, especially when you consider that we've a much higher population now.

monkeysnapper · 21-02-2013 12:25PM

I loved the one where the dad was teaching his sons survival and shooting and the gun back fired and lost some fingers . Classic ironic funny moment

Robbo · 21-02-2013 01:59PM

I watched one where an elderly gent had created an underground compound out of buried school buses, for when nuclear armageddon arrived. Only kids were to be allowed in and first stop was the decontamination showers.

"We're going to say to people: 'Well, we have room for your children, but we don't have room for you.' That's the nature of life... this is the lifeboat."

Try watching that in a post-Jimmy Savile era....

goose2005 · 21-02-2013 06:54PM

Drumpot wrote: »

A neighbour of mine bought a firetruck (hes a fireman and bought an antique one just as an odd hobby). . He got some slagging from his mates . . Our estate flooded recently and the fire engine did great work clearing a load of the water . .

I think human beings are so mindnumbingly smug, arrogant and ignorant to their existance its simply hilarious. . My story wasnt to suggest that every estate should have their own resident fire engine, its that no matter how much technology or new crap thats invented or new ways of doing business, things that arent in our plans can happen. Having a fire engine in every estate is impracticle, but that day I was rather we had one that we needed, then needed one (took ages for fire brigade to come) and not had one.

We have grown up in a world that has convinced us that buying crap (consumerism) is the only way that everybody can have fruitful, successful lives (we all spend to keep the house of cards going for as long as possible).

Im not a Doomsday prepper or anything like that, I am simply very much conscious of the fact that history has thought us that as a species we have a fantastic ability to self destruct. If western civilisation did start to break down (run out of oil with no alternative fuel), some sort of virus on all financial institutions pcs wiping clear everybodys money (or debts!), I would have little doubt that it would be survival of the fittest and everyperson for themselves.

Right now, I dont see that happening anytime soon because I have grown up in a world that has some sort of order to it. The people preparing for what they see to be the inevitable doom of the species are no less misguided then those who think its impossible.

If Greece does default there is no guarantee that our politicians (in ireland and europe) will come up with a plan that garners the confidence of the financial markets that we continue to hail. In truth there is no guarantee or clear consensus of what would happen. If for any reason the ATMs and banking systems werent working for a prolonged period of time how would people be paid (and get paid)? We are so heavily reliant on technology that we havent considered what we would do if it crashed for a couple of months. Then I imagine the people slagging the doomsday preppers would be trying to find their houses on maps!

True, but if we want to preserve for the future it's surely better to prevent environmental damage or social decline, plan for global warming and act in view of the long term. But that's less likely to feed satisfying macho fantasies.

LCRS · 22-07-2013 03:34PM

Things are going to get ****ty. I think it's inevitable so whats the harm in making sure one is prepared? It's more to do with being able to care our yourself and your family IF something happens to dramatically change everyones way of life. Think how long people would last if say a solar flare took out the electrics or the food supply became so low that supermarkets were empty? Seriously declining bee populations worldwide, absolutely crazy weather around the globe. Records high temps AND low temps all over the US. I think the people who know they might be ok if the SHTF are the ones to make good friends with :P

Jonny7 · 22-07-2013 03:49PM

MadYaker wrote: »

In reality, the most likely (but still fairly unlikely) serious event that might see us benefit from some dooms day prepping is an outbreak of nuclear war triggered by either Iran, Israel or North Korea.

Far too unlikely, and anyway N Korea would be regional and anything with Israel would also be regional, Europe would remain untouched.

Less remote would be a large solar flare/storm, of the kind that hit in 1859 - would fry most electronics - not hard to imagine the consequences

Doomsday Preppers, are they nuts or wise?

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