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McClean refuses to wear poppy

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  • #182
    Rekop dog
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,584 ✭✭✭Rekop dog


    rarnes1 wrote: »

    Yeah, sticking up for what he believes in is a bad thing.

    Ffs

    The lad should be applauded and not abused.

    It's more an attack on his playing style than anything, he's a simpleton simple as.


  • #183
    [Deleted User]
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    Rekop dog wrote: »

    It's more an attack on his playing style than anything, he's a simpleton simple as.

    What's his playing style got to do with wearing a poppy?


  • #184
    Rekop dog
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,584 ✭✭✭Rekop dog


    rarnes1 wrote: »

    What's his playing style got to do with wearing a poppy?

    Simple is as simple does!


  • #185
    [Deleted User]
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    Rekop dog wrote: »

    Simple is as simple does!

    Great response.

    If he was simple as you seem to think he is he'd have followed the herd and put a poppy on. For personal reasons he hasnt and should be commended.


  • #186
    Zebra3
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,136 ✭✭✭✭Zebra3


    Rhys Essien wrote: »
    I think that might of been because Pope John Paul invited the Irish Soccer team to the Vatican during Italia 90.He also loved soccer and was a goalkeeper during his youth.Was this not a reason for the FAI to remember him??:rolleyes:

    I couldn't care less what the reason was.

    That bloke was the head of an organisation that was involved in raping kids. I don't want to go to football matches and have a minute's silence in tribute to someone like that.


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  • #187
    Richard Hillman
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    James McClean in attention shocker


  • #188
    Francie Barrett
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,135 ✭✭✭✭Francie Barrett


    I am starting to think that James McClean suffers some kind of mental retardation. Just wear the damn thing and keep your mouth shut.


  • #189
    A Dub in Glasgo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,294 ✭✭✭✭A Dub in Glasgo


    I am starting to think that the poppy fascists suffer some kind of mental retardation. Just don't expect everyone to wear the damn thing and keep your mouth shut.


  • #190
    cournioni
    Moderators, Regional North East Moderators Posts: 12,742 Mod ✭✭✭✭cournioni


    Francie Barrett wrote: »
    I am starting to think that James McClean suffers some kind of mental retardation. Just wear the damn thing and keep your mouth shut.
    Are you for real? Would love to see you wearing a poppy around the Bogside in Derry.


  • #191
    Francie Barrett
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    A Dub in Glasgo wrote: »
    I am starting to think that the poppy fascists suffer some kind of mental retardation. Just don't expect everyone to wear the damn thing and keep your mouth shut.
    He's a British footballer in a British league, it's not asking too much to expect him to wear it.


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  • #192
    Francie Barrett
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,135 ✭✭✭✭Francie Barrett


    cournioni wrote: »
    Are you for real? Would love to see you wearing a poppy around the Bogside in Derry.
    Would wear it with pride if I had to.


  • #193
    IamtheWalrus
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,075 ✭✭✭IamtheWalrus


    Surely it should be a personal choice if you wear one or not. Not a big deal not wearing one if you are a) Irish and b) from a contentious area (what would the people of Derry think of him if he did).

    If people are offended by his choice not to wear one then they should take a long look at themselves. It's not as if he wore an anti-British badge.


  • #194
    A Dub in Glasgo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,294 ✭✭✭✭A Dub in Glasgo


    Francie Barrett wrote: »
    He's a British footballer in a British league, it's not asking too much to expect him to wear it.

    Yes it is, there should be no expectations of wearing a poppy


  • #195
    A Dub in Glasgo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,294 ✭✭✭✭A Dub in Glasgo


    Francie Barrett wrote: »
    Would wear it with pride if I had to.

    Everything that is wrong about this time of year. Wear it with pride if you want to not if you had to :confused:


  • #196
    cournioni
    Moderators, Regional North East Moderators Posts: 12,742 Mod ✭✭✭✭cournioni


    Francie Barrett wrote: »
    He's a British footballer in a British league, it's not asking too much to expect him to wear it.
    His passport says he's Irish, so I'm sure he'll beg to differ.


  • #197
    killwill
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    I have not read back over too many pages so might be repeating what is already said but if I were a pro footballer in England yesterday I would have requested a green poppy.
    It would be to remember the 50k or so Irish soldiers who died fighting for them.


  • #198
    bobbysands81
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    grenache wrote: »
    With him being a Derryman, I can totally understand why he won't wear a poppy.

    I'm wearing a poppy for the whole month though. Even though I don't have any relatives who died in either world wars and would be regarded as nationalistic as anyone I think it right to honour the ordinary soldier, be he British or Irish, who died on the battlefield.

    Why don't you wear a white poppy so? At least that way you know that your money isn't going to fund British soldiers that have killed Irish kids on Irish streets.


  • #199
    The_Kew_Tour
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    Politics and Football should just move as far apart as it can.

    EVENFLOW



  • #200
    Soups123
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    The_Kew_Tour wrote: »
    Politics and Football should just move as far apart as it can.
    Agree no player anywhere should feel under pressure to wear any political badge.


  • #201
    Soups123
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    Francie Barrett wrote: »
    Just wear the damn thing and keep your mouth shut.
    That's a shocking attitude, just do what your told to do regardless of your believe, I'd rather stand out this morning and be slated for not wearing it than have worn it just to appease sensitive souls like yourself


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  • #202
    intellectual dosser
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    Soups123 wrote: »
    That's a shocking attitude, just do what your told to do regardless of your believe, I'd rather stand out this morning and be slated for not wearing it than have worn it just to appease sensitive souls like yourself

    I dont think its as straight forward as Francie barrett is making it out, but I think I would have bit my tongue and worn the thing to avoid the attention he is bound to get.

    If James McClean feels so strongly about it, then you could go so far as to ask why he lives and works in England.


  • #203
    Soups123
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    intellectual dosser wrote: »

    I dont think its as straight forward as Francie barrett is making it out, but I think I would have bit my tongue and worn the thing to avoid the attention he is bound to get.

    If James McClean feels so strongly about it, then you could go so far as to ask why he lives and works in England.
    Many people go to England to live and work but that doesn't mean you have to follow every political gesture. He shouldn't be under any pressure to do so.

    If you worked for a British company and were forced to wear the poppy or be unfairly treated for not that company would open to all sorts of claims.

    Freedom of speech, freedom of choice should be for everyone not everyone except professional footballers


  • #204
    DM_7
    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 18,726 Mod ✭✭✭✭DM_7


    intellectual dosser wrote: »
    I dont think its as straight forward as Francie barrett is making it out, but I think I would have bit my tongue and worn the thing to avoid the attention he is bound to get.

    If James McClean feels so strongly about it, then you could go so far as to ask why he lives and works in England.

    How could you go that far?

    Living/working in England does not mean you are remembering the Armed Forces members that died in the line of duty, it is not comparable to wearing a symbol of memorial day.


  • #205
    [Deleted User]
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    Francie Barrett wrote: »
    I am starting to think that James McClean suffers some kind of mental retardation. Just wear the damn thing and keep your mouth shut.

    That post is just ignorant.


  • #206
    intellectual dosser
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,850 ✭✭✭intellectual dosser


    DM-ICE wrote: »
    How could you go that far?

    Living/working in England does not mean you are remembering the Armed Forces members that died in the line of duty, it is not comparable to wearing a symbol of memorial day.

    He's clearly making some sort of statement, its just a piece of plastic I wouldnt have any issue letting it go....

    So if he's making this statement then I think it is relevant that he lives/works in England.


  • #207
    bobbysands81
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    intellectual dosser wrote: »

    If James McClean feels so strongly about it, then you could go so far as to ask why he lives and works in England.

    Why?

    Legally he's allowed be there, he pays a savage amount of tax but now you feel he's wrong to bow to poppy fascists?

    Crazy attitude.


  • #208
    Coillte_Bhoy
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    Francie Barrett wrote: »
    I am starting to think that James McClean suffers some kind of mental retardation. Just wear the damn thing and keep your mouth shut.

    Thank god we're not all sheep like you. Maybe you dont have an independent mind and go along with what the establishment tells you to do, but dont judge everyone on your own low satndards


  • #209
    Coillte_Bhoy
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    cournioni wrote: »
    Are you for real? Would love to see you wearing a poppy around the Bogside in Derry.

    I would love to see this


  • #210
    Coillte_Bhoy
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    intellectual dosser wrote: »
    If James McClean feels so strongly about it, then you could go so far as to ask why he lives and works in England.

    What a stupid thing to say. There is a significant section of the British population who would feel the same way as him. Should they all up and leave too? There is plenty i despise about present day Ireland, should i leave?


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  • #211
    Coillte_Bhoy
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    intellectual dosser wrote: »
    He's clearly making some sort of statement, its just a piece of plastic I wouldnt have any issue letting it go....

    So if he's making this statement then I think it is relevant that he lives/works in England.

    and if he wears it, he's making a statement as well isnt he? One that obviously he does not agree with.


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