MW3 - The Final Verdict

Snake Plisken · 23-10-2012 03:30PM

Excellent. The game as a whole was an enjoyable experience.

it will be interesting to see what's going to happen next year, I take it that it's a 2 year development cycle for COD games, will Activision hold off releasing next year's infinaty Ward's offering? Also with the next gen consoles rumoured to be showing up next year will that have any bearing on the direction of the COD franchise? I did read that Activision were hiring for next gen console game developement and aren't they going to switch to using a new game engine for the next gen?

I agree when your online with your friends playing Cod and having the banter it's great fun and I do love the MW3 option of hearing your enemy's comments once you kill them is great, actually hope they carry that over to Blops 2 along with All or Nothing.
As for other games being better then COD, maybe so but imho COD will always be my favourite FPS

COD till I die

23-10-2012 03:50PM

Excellent. The game as a whole was an enjoyable experience.

yimrsg wrote: »

From this and your opening post it's abundantly clear that you're the one deliberately trying to muddy the water to disparage the game by ignoring the social/multiplayer aspect of mw3. The multiplayer aspect is part of the game play, whether you like that or not. It's a completely illogical argument. It's like ignoring the co-op campaign in halo 3 because it's not part of the game play, or ignoring how you can play multiplayer on mass effect 3. It's part of the game, let us be the judge of it and not cordon off areas where we'd like to express our opinion.

The one area of the game where MW3 is ground breaking is being able to hear what the player you just killed says. It may seem like a small thing but this quote by Conan the Barbarian when asked what is best in life sums it up well:

Normally we're restricted to 8 (party chat) or 9 players (game chat) on xbox but this tiny little advancement meant that you could hear the bleating and bitching from your friends in an 18 man lobby briefly and it greatly improved the mundane experience of killing someone into something much more satisfying. Likewise when playing against randomers you also got that extra bit of satisfaction when you kill them.

Just because you didn't get to experience the giddy joy of killing 10+ people with explosive decoy care packages in a custom game of drop zone and hear their dying word curse my name; so I should not be able to share what I found good in the game as it falls under what you consider outside your limitations of appraising the game? You asked for a fair and full appraisal there it is; warts, beauty spots and all.

Conveniently ignoring the advances in a particular area and then condemning it is just deliberately trying to denigrate the game and not give a balanced appraisal. You're deliberately trying to stymie debate and coerce opinions on mw3 and it's not a fair thing to do.

That isn't even remotely ground breaking. The EXACT same feature was in Killzone 2, released 2 years previously and I'm willing to bet it was in another game before that.

And it really didn't enhance gameplay all that much in either game.

Nuri Sahin · 23-10-2012 03:50PM

It was okay. Not terrible, but not great.

Yousef wrote: »

I agree that Bowling was given clear, precise instructions as to what MW3 was to be. Activision wanted a game tailored to the novice in a bid to get more sales, that much is understood. But at what cost? MW3 over it's lifespan has not equated the success of BLOPS and over half a million people have decided not to pre-order BLOPS2 when you compare the numbers at present to this time last year. So something is very wrong here. Whether past players have emigrated over to other brands such as Battlefield during the past year, or perhaps even with the release of other FPS blockbusters such as Halo4 and Far Cry this year has had an effect on sales is anyone's guess.

Nevertheless, Activision have a problem on their hands. We've seen brands come and go but Activision in particular have a history of draining the lifeblood out of franchises...think Tony Hawk or Guitar Hero. Just as Valve have an emotional attachment and investment in Half-Life, Respawn Entertainment had that with CoD...it was their baby and anyone else designing a game for solely profit reasons is not going to produce a game to equal what the creators could do. I think Treyarch have that emotional attachment to CoD...they want to see it do well and are removed from the attitude of thinking "hey, this is what we've done, you're going to like it so buy it".

Honestly though, I don't know where CoD can go from here. Releasing a new title every year is unsustainable and a recipe for disaster IMO. They should have kept the last four years under the CoD4 label and just added to it i.e - WWII maps (W@W), MW2 maps, Cold War maps (BLOPS) and MW3 maps and games modes. They would have still got the 50 quid a year out of everyone and would have everyone on the edge of their seat for this new game next month!

Perhaps we can look forward to Respawn Entertainments new game next year. Maybe when we play that, we'll realise what MW3 should have been.

While I still play CoD4 on occasion, I'd be one of those who have made the jump myself to Battlefield 3 actually. I won't be getting BOPS2 for awhile anyway also, despite liking BOPS. Not overly impressed with that I've seen so far and I'm not a fan of futuristic shooters. Albeit BOPS2 isn't Halo or anything like that obviously. But still.

The similarities between CoD at present and the Guitar Hero series as well as the Tony Hawk series is quite staggering and something I've referenced in the past as well as others. Common denominator being Activision. They really need to kill their own series of games. It's a talent almost. Drawing blood out of a rock is their goal it seems like alright.

DanTheMan91 · 23-10-2012 09:32PM

Excellent. The game as a whole was an enjoyable experience.

I have about 5 days playtime so I definitely got my money worth. I think its not half as bad as some people make it out to be, I enjoyed it for the most part and I didn't buy any DLC.

Mickeroo · 23-10-2012 10:11PM

Excellent. The game as a whole was an enjoyable experience.

The only thing that I didn't like was the maps weren't up to the standard of BLOPS or MW2. There was definitely a lot more hair-pulling frustration in this game than the others but I can't quite figure out why, certainly lost a bit of the fun.

Overall though I can't say I found it much different from any other COD game I've played tbh. Got a lot more mileage out of it than I did BF 3 anyway.

Will be trading it in to help fund BLOPS2, Halo 4 and Assassin's Creed 3 over the next few weeks without regret though.

Angron · 23-10-2012 11:57PM

It was okay. Not terrible, but not great.

I hated it. The least I've enjoyed a CoD game to date.

krudler · 24-10-2012 12:09AM

Excellent. The game as a whole was an enjoyable experience.

Liked parts, hated parts, was indifferent to the majority of it, COD4 and MW2 even for all its major faults are just more fun to play, simple as.

repsol · 24-10-2012 12:15AM

I liked it but agree with previous poster who said MW2 was the best of the genre

everlast75 · 24-10-2012 11:46AM

Excellent. The game as a whole was an enjoyable experience.

20 days played and 99% domination. The other 1% was private lobbies or infected.

As a game, it was pretty much a mirror image of MW2, with the majority of the changes being slight adjustments being made in terms of removal of certain annoying perks, only to be replaced by other annoying perks.

There was however, new game modes (infected etc) and that is to be welcomed.

It was however, a very very slight advancement on the quality of the MW2 game and with the amount of feedback available from a very willing audience and two years to develop matters, this has to be said to be disappointing.

I am unsure as to how much laziness can account for this (caused by the presumption that it is such a popular brand and therefore it will sell by the bucketloads). Perhaps figures may be down for the upcoming game and that might even to a tiny degree shake a little of the lethargy out of the developers. There is however an insane amount of money being made by the franchise and until a direct effect of the stagnation of the brand is felt by the developers I fear there will be equal and tiny measures of advancement, certainly by the Modern Warfare branch.

podgemonster · 24-10-2012 11:59AM

Pros:
Dead Man's Hand
The Type 95
Striker
L86 with Thermal and Rapid Fire
Dome
The crazy characters on the Boards clan.
The Face off games: Loved em!

Cons:
Never got a MOAB
Downturn, Outpost, Baraka
No zombies
Lobby waiting time when in a clan

x43r0 · 24-10-2012 12:07PM

podgemonster wrote: »

Cons:
Never got a MOAB

Come on some night and join in the infected fun. Moabs'a'plenty!

greenman09 · 24-10-2012 12:53PM

I was closer to a moab on dom last night than I ever was on infected.crazy.
I got my moneys worth outta this game. So money well spent for me think I'm burnt out by cod now tho

podgemonster · 24-10-2012 02:03PM

x43r0 wrote: »

Come on some night and join in the infected fun. Moabs'a'plenty!

I can't, in Skyrim mode at the moment. Doing a few excavation jobs in the quarry near Markarth to save up to buy the house there with some nice decor. Then hopefully il pop the question to Hroki, that sexy bítch!

Anyway on topic.
Probably gona starve myself on COD for a while before Black Ops II.

krudler · 24-10-2012 03:07PM

Excellent. The game as a whole was an enjoyable experience.

podgemonster wrote: »

Pros:
Dead Man's Hand
The Type 95
Striker
L86 with Thermal and Rapid Fire
Dome
The crazy characters on the Boards clan.
The Face off games: Loved em!

Eh? surely one of the most annoying things in the game, its the new martyrdom/last stand.

What really annoys me about the COD franchise as a whole is that the developers seem to go out of their way to ensure bad players stay bad players, why try and up your own skillset when you can bombard people from across the map with grenades or use broken perks to get kills you didnt deserve? To "help casual players" is a copout excuse, it reinforces bad play and encourages sh1tty tactics and noobish behaviour, then people wonder why the COD community is viewed as such a bunch of dickheads ('cept boardsis obviously :pac: )

Mickeroo · 24-10-2012 03:45PM

Excellent. The game as a whole was an enjoyable experience.

podgemonster wrote: »

I can't, in Skyrim mode at the moment. Doing a few excavation jobs in the quarry near Markarth to save up to buy the house there with some nice decor. Then hopefully il pop the question to Hroki, that sexy bítch!

She's grand but she's no Lydia.....

I never got a MOAB either

iMuse · 24-10-2012 06:10PM

It sums it up when during the 24 hour charity livestream one of the devs was using fmg akimbos as a primary every game and another was using type 95 with blind eye and assassin. And they where apparently complaining alot about the spawns in MW3 and they got spawn trapped at A on terminal. They must never play their own game.

cathal_flynn · 24-10-2012 07:18PM

I don't understand those death streaks ....reward someone for being sh*t at the game??

podgemonster · 24-10-2012 11:11PM

Sometimes you can get stuck in rut, caught in a spawn trap and you feel like you cant go on, feel like giving up....

But then a hand reaches down,
A hand pulls you to your feet,
A dead mans hand.

It gives you a little pat on the pack and in a way that says "hey, here's some volatile C4, go kill someone?"

And then you run like a starving child after a UN convoy to that camping blind eyed príck in the corner and laugh as you both die pathetically together.

Fúcking Love It!

KaosWatson · 24-10-2012 11:37PM

Pros

Hardcore Gametypes, Riot Shield.

Cons.

ACR, Assassin, MP7, Dead Silence, Noob Tubes and Campers.. here's looking at you Furious/Kells.

Headshot · 24-10-2012 11:44PM

It was okay. Not terrible, but not great.

19 people should be banned from cod forum

hypermuse · 25-10-2012 12:13AM

It was okay. Not terrible, but not great.

I wasnt a huge fan of MW2 for various reasons, however my addicitive personality ensured I sunk several hours into it.

Regardless, since not being a big MW2 fan, there was no reason for me to be excited about MW3, mainly because I knew it would be what I expected it to be.... MW2.5

It was just a rehash of MW2, basically a new huge map pack! I didnt even buy this game until about December I think???

Have to say thou that I did enjoy the survival mode, was good craic, especially playing with someone else, but they did miss a trick with it not being 4 player minimum.

If it wasn't for playing in parties, this game would have been gotten rid of a loooong time ago.

Cossax · 25-10-2012 12:17AM

krudler wrote: »

Eh? surely one of the most annoying things in the game, its the new martyrdom/last stand.

What really annoys me about the COD franchise as a whole is that the developers seem to go out of their way to ensure bad players stay bad players, why try and up your own skillset when you can bombard people from across the map with grenades or use broken perks to get kills you didnt deserve? To "help casual players" is a copout excuse, it reinforces bad play and encourages sh1tty tactics and noobish behaviour, then people wonder why the COD community is viewed as such a bunch of dickheads ('cept boardsis obviously :pac: )

You'd have to have been in a cool Boards party (i.e. Xbox) with Podge on the opposite team to understand.

KaosWatson · 25-10-2012 12:29AM

20+ days of gameplay for me, maybe not as good as Mw2 for me, but it was still a good game.

(anyone with like 15d+ on mw3, can't really call it a ****ty game.)

Jamie Starr · 25-10-2012 12:30AM

I bought this last week for €21, because I wanted to shoot stuff, so I haven't really been disappointed by anything. Main thing was I had a playthrough of the first few campaign levels- sweet lord. I mean, I know very few people buy it for the story mode, but jesus, why design something that repettitive? I've played every game since the first MW, and seriously, no advancement?

Kinda of says a lot, I would've thought developers with unlimited money to play with would do something creative and constructive, but I suppose it's the opposite- most of that money is held back or thrown into the online side of things.

Might be because my participation in online gaming dropped off after the first Gears of War but I wouldn't buy any further iterations of this for full retail price unless the story mode was over-hauled. Maybe make playing as an SAS agent engaging and smart rather than making me feel like I'm just a machine-gun with legs. Then again few games offer this now, it's not just Activision's. I suppose prioritising something accomplished over something recycled isn't on the radar for franchises of any kind.

Creasy_bear · 26-10-2012 09:54PM

Excellent. The game as a whole was an enjoyable experience.

IPAM wrote: »

Would much rather MW3 multi than MW2 multi

I agree. MW2 is beyond a joke in my opinion. But in fairness, I only ever played MW3's Tdm with the specialist class on. I think if the specialist class wasn't in the game, I wouldn't have half as much game time played.

The Floyd p · 30-10-2012 12:48PM

It was okay. Not terrible, but not great.

Mostly rubbish. Hated the SP, spawns ruined online play, too many kill streaks, too many levels, Blind Eye Assassin and Dead Silence.

3/10

KaosWatson · 30-10-2012 03:47PM

Well, Floyd did get a new lover from Mw3 though, Killmaster090. Do you 2 still talk?

x43r0 · 30-10-2012 04:07PM

KaosWatson wrote: »

Well, Floyd did get a new lover from Mw3 though, Killmaster090. Do you 2 still talk?

They do but during those moments he's the Chatmaster090

MW3 - The Final Verdict

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