Pregnancy from rape is 'God's will' - Apparentely

vicwatson · 24-10-2012 04:20PM #1

This guy is completely deluded

http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/breaking/2012/1024/breaking28.html

My favourite line in the story is

Mr Mourdock made his remark two months after Missouri Senate Republican candidate Todd Akin said that "legitimate rape" rarely leads to pregnancy.

FatherLen · 24-10-2012 04:21PM

we're gonna run out of popcorn soon enough

MJ23 · 24-10-2012 04:24PM

Crazy people say crazy things.

professore · 24-10-2012 04:26PM

If you are a religious person (which I am NOT) this is a perfectly reasonable and logical standpoint.

krudler · 24-10-2012 04:27PM

professore wrote: »

If you are a religious person (which I am NOT) this is a perfectly reasonable and logical standpoint.

reason and logic have no place in religion, sure they're founded on the complete opposite of both :pac:

Abi · 24-10-2012 04:28PM

I wouldn't bother rising to it. Hes a bell end.

flutterflye · 24-10-2012 04:28PM

I heard that earlier. It made me very angry.
Luckily, I reckon this nutjob is in the vast minority with his stupid stupid opinions.

seamus · 24-10-2012 04:30PM

If pregnancy from rape is "intended by god", then logically the act of rape too was "intended by god".

Yeah thanks for the rape, god. You asshole.

24-10-2012 04:31PM

Perhaps if Mr. Murdock* was to find HIMSELF pregnant after getting gang raped I might actually go along with the "God's will" bit.

*Jesus that's not "Howlin' Mad" Murdock from The A-Team by any chance, is it? Now it kinda makes more sense!

Latchy · 24-10-2012 04:31PM

He probably thinks God is an American to ...what a tool.

smash · 24-10-2012 04:31PM

God's a cúnt.

Grayson · 24-10-2012 04:32PM

It's not an unusual sentiment. Most religious people have some kind of belief in that kind of the thing. the "We can't know His plan" or "God moves in mysterous ways" opinion.

hardCopy · 24-10-2012 04:33PM

seamus wrote: »

If pregnancy from rape is "intended by god", then logically the act of rape too was "intended by god".

Yeah thanks for the rape, god. You asshole.

If it turns out this God guy exists, he's got a lot to answer for. I wouldn't pray to him if I did believe.

hooradiation · 24-10-2012 04:34PM

seamus wrote: »

If pregnancy from rape is "intended by god", then logically the act of rape too was "intended by god".

Yeah thanks for the rape, god. You asshole.

Our god is a rapey god....

Sin City · 24-10-2012 04:36PM

Have these Doctors been named and shamed?

Solair · 24-10-2012 04:37PM

I'm not being pro/anti abortion here but this kind of statement really seems like something out of another era entirely.

The fact that there's a large audience for these guy's views is really saying a lot about what's happening to parts of the United States as people seem to just become more and more conservative and religiously fundamentalist.

Modern America was built on technology, science, big cities, liberal democracy, new ideas, movies, creativity, positivity, pushing out the boundries and it was bred in a secular, largely urban America not in the conservative, bible-belt deep south.

By secularism I mean things like a good open, non-religiously biased public school system, a tolerance for all sorts of religious beliefs and none and a dynamic multicultural melting pot that was incredibly creative.

These guys are going to drag it back to the Salem Witch trial days and puritanical backwards colonial america if they're taken too seriously.

It's just amazing that they seem to have serious traction with voters and the media over there.

I don't even know how fiscal conservatives i.e. US versions of the tory party's supporters are not being totally alienated by the modern Republican party. It's really moving away from its original core vote and morphing into some kind of Christian fundamentalist movement.

It's becoming a very weird scenario !

poeticseraphim · 24-10-2012 04:41PM

by this logic rape is god's will..

WOW god has willed a lot of rape then...and of minors too....god is sick....

SO RAPE IS EH OKAY JUST DON'T BE GAY.

Hmmmm so i guess those peado priests were trying to do god's will....

In fairness god kinda raped mary....no asking permission..just annoncing 'bitch you are having my son'

philologos · 24-10-2012 04:42PM

I take it this is this weeks After Hours thread to say that anyone who is a Christian is stupid?

Idle Passerby · 24-10-2012 04:48PM

philologos wrote: »

I take it this is this weeks After Hours thread to say that anyone who is a Christian is stupid?

Its the same god in non-Christian religions too, you know.

hooradiation · 24-10-2012 04:48PM

philologos wrote: »

I take it this is this weeks After Hours thread to say that anyone who is a Christian is stupid?

Just because your saviour was on the cross doesn't mean you've got to hop up there at the slightest provocation.

Solair · 24-10-2012 04:49PM

philologos wrote: »

I take it this is this weeks After Hours thread to say that anyone who is a Christian is stupid?

No, not at all.

I think it's more when someone starts to be narrow-minded, inward looking, refuses to challenge their own views or debate anything, becomes totally irrational, and adopts a 'my way or the highway' attitude to life, that they are definitely on a road to stupidity.

It doesn't matter what religious view point they have christian or otherwise or if they're an atheist. When someone starts to think that their view of the world is the only view of the world and that anyone who challenges that view should be shut out (or worse) that you start to have a bit of a problem.

Those kinds of dogmatic views can be about religion, nationality / patriotism, politics, even obsessives about particular brands of IT product start to become annoying after a while.

It is mind-boggling that someone can come out with a statement like that guy's and actually expect to be taken seriously in a political context.

I mean what's his take on say I donno murder? Is that just god's will too and perhaps we shouldn't bother prosecuting anyone for those crimes?

How about armed robbery ? Or, drug dealing ?

His logic is not exactly wonderful and it's MASSIVELY offensive to rape victims.

smash · 24-10-2012 04:50PM

hooradiation wrote: »

Just because your saviour was on the cross doesn't mean you've got to hop up there at the slightest provocation.

Allegedly on the cross

philologos · 24-10-2012 04:51PM

hooradiation wrote: »

Just because your saviour was on the cross doesn't mean you've got to hop up there at the slightest provocation.

Oh, believe me, I've got no intention of getting up there

I'm just noticing the typical trends on After Hours. In retrospect, it seems that all he's said from reading the article is although pregnancy through rape is deeply unfortunate and difficult, that a child born from rape is not necessarily a bad thing.

humanji · 24-10-2012 04:52PM

philologos wrote: »

I take it this is this weeks After Hours thread to say that anyone who is a Christian is stupid?

Don't start.

And everyone else, stick to the topic. I know many of you are desperate for an anti-religion rant, but stick to the topic which is about a statement from one guy.

krudler · 24-10-2012 04:52PM

philologos wrote: »

I take it this is this weeks After Hours thread to say that anyone who is a Christian is stupid?

Just ones who make stupid statements.

flutterflye · 24-10-2012 04:54PM

philologos wrote: »

Oh, believe me, I've got no intention of getting up there I'm just noticing the typical trends on After Hours. In retrospect, it seems that all he's said from reading the article is although pregnancy through rape is deeply unfortunate and difficult, that a child born from rape is not necessarily a bad thing.

If he did say that, I doubt people would be that angry.
But he didn't.
Maybe he meant to say that? Who knows.
All I know is that the way he said it is deeply offensive and insensitive, and downright stupid.

Lyaiera · 24-10-2012 04:54PM

philologos wrote: »

Oh, believe me, I've got no intention of getting up there I'm just noticing the typical trends on After Hours. In retrospect, it seems that all he's said from reading the article is although pregnancy through rape is deeply unfortunate and difficult, that a child born from rape is not necessarily a bad thing.

No, a child born from rape isn't a bad thing, if the woman wants to carry the pregnancy to term (and is ready to deal with the child.) Forcing a woman to carry a pregnancy to term that was caused by a rape is immoral.

Corkfeen · 24-10-2012 04:54PM

philologos wrote: »

Oh, believe me, I've got no intention of getting up there I'm just noticing the typical trends on After Hours. In retrospect, it seems that all he's said from reading the article is although pregnancy through rape is deeply unfortunate and difficult, that a child born from rape is not necessarily a bad thing.

His exact words "And, I think, even when life begins in that horrible situation of rape, that it is something that God intended to happen."...

Mark200 · 24-10-2012 04:54PM

philologos wrote: »

Oh, believe me, I've got no intention of getting up there I'm just noticing the typical trends on After Hours. In retrospect, it seems that all he's said from reading the article is although pregnancy through rape is deeply unfortunate and difficult, that a child born from rape is not necessarily a bad thing.

Go to 3:08 here to see what he said:

Rayne Wooney · 24-10-2012 05:10PM

God's will?
So say if a highly religious woman is raped and becomes pregnant, will she accept that it is just god's will?

I've read that the punishment for the man who rapes is to marry his victim, would the woman marry the man who raped her, following god's will?

I'm sure Mr Mourdock would say yes to both of these questions, but I find it hard to believe any woman could actually do this

PopePalpatine · 24-10-2012 05:13PM

seamus wrote: »

If pregnancy from rape is "intended by god", then logically the act of rape too was "intended by god".

So too is the act of bashing this fucker's head in.

Pregnancy from rape is 'God's will' - Apparentely

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