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HMV force skirts on female staff, hair cuts for men and no tattoos

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,908 ✭✭✭✭padd b1975


    I think Eddie Rockets have the same policy.
    All their female workers now wear skirts.

    I like it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 14,098 ✭✭✭✭kowloon


    phasers wrote: »
    Personally, I boycott any shop that employs women, never mind letting them wear trousers! Disgraceful carry on, they should be at home, wearing skirts and cooking things

    By Jove, next they'll be demanding the vote!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,631 ✭✭✭Reg'stoy


    I think the question should be; are you willing to cut your hair, wear a dress and cover up tattoos, to get a job. If not, don't apply!!

    Some people shovel ****e or do worse to put food on the table, dressing as per your employers policies is no great hardship.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 27,944 ✭✭✭✭4zn76tysfajdxp


    phasers wrote: »
    Personally, I boycott any shop that employs women, never mind letting them wear trousers! Disgraceful carry on, they should be at home, wearing skirts and cooking things
    kowloon wrote: »
    By Jove, next they'll be demanding the vote!

    As I always say: Ladies, if you can't stand the heat, get back to the kitchen.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,775 ✭✭✭✭Gbear


    gerire wrote: »
    moving deckchairs on the titanic...

    There will be no bricks and mortar shops selling music, games or movies in 10 years time.


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  • Administrators Posts: 56,306 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭awec


    I welcome it.

    They should also be banned from referring to customers as "man" or "dude".


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,020 ✭✭✭BlaasForRafa


    As I always say: Ladies, if you can't stand the heat, get back to the kitchen.

    well said!



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,791 ✭✭✭ash23


    I wonder is this an attempt to cull some of their staff and avoid redundancy payments or the negative publicity around letting staff go.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,561 ✭✭✭Martyn1989


    Does the oul lad with the blue 'raver' hair still work in the Henry St, Dublin, branch? What are they going to do with him? 'Back to the dungeon!!!!'


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,420 ✭✭✭Lollipops23


    That's insane- in my old work girls could choose between trousers or skirts, as long as they were in-line with what they deemed was acceptable.

    FFS, it's a music shop (and dvd/games), what does them having tats or piercings have to do with anything at all? I'd hazard a guess that 99% of their clientele don't give a crap about their appearance, so long as they're easily identifiable as staff members.

    I'd much rather a girl whose entire face was taken up with ink and rings who knew her stuff than some crew cut nice guy who hadn't a clue.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,990 ✭✭✭JustAddWater


    in fairness any member of staff who wears flip flops needs to get lost back to OZ...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 482 ✭✭souleater3000


    Im always in the HMV is stephans green, as its hte nearest one for me and none of these rules apply to them. Will this only come into force in england? You cant force someone to hide their tattoos and piercings, its apart of who they are FFS and haircuts? Thats just a joke altogether.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,443 ✭✭✭Bipolar Joe


    Do you think this generation, the ones that are staff now, will end up being way cooler in regards to this sort of crap when they're behind a desk? The chain has to break at some point, right? Or will it always be some business school douche who thinks that appearance is more important than business ethic?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,558 ✭✭✭seven_eleven


    Looks like they're going to be hiring to replace all the hundreds of staff with tattoo's long hair and females that the fired. As if their financial situation wasn't that bad in the first place?

    The only thing they should have banned is those stupid gigantic old man hipster glasses!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,732 ✭✭✭Toby Take a Bow


    ash23 wrote: »
    I wonder is this an attempt to cull some of their staff and avoid redundancy payments or the negative publicity around letting staff go.

    As far as I know, they're under the same management as when they closed loads of shops (as well as some Waterstones ones in Dublin) so I don't think they really care about negative publicity. I'd say it's to have more control over their 'brand', in this case the first point of contact for a customer. I'd say it'll have the opposite effect of the one desired: it will have a negative impact on the eagerness to help customers as, if you want a robot, that's what you'll get.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,478 ✭✭✭padi89


    tattoos and piercings are always clear indications of creativity and individuality, fact

    Nah every joe soap has one or both these days and majority are absolute sh1te, fact.


  • Posts: 15,814 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Looks like a thinly  veiled attempt to get rid of a lot of the staff and nit have to pay them anything. Boss of mine did a similar thing a few years back. Worked in a small music store where the dress code was wear what you want. The place did a decent trade and we specialised in rock, metal and punk and as such had loyal customers who every week would be in buying hard to come by stuff. One day the owner decided he wanted to get more involved so he started coming to the shop and sitting out back watching porn as he pretended to work.

    He decided on a whim that we would get rid of a large section of the stock and put in mobile phone displays. We'd sold they got ages but it was never a big part as the profit on them was tiny. Lost good third of the CD shelving and over the homing weeks he made more and more changes. Got rid of the metal, punk and rock sections and instead concentrated on country and western, Irish music and pop. The profit margin on these were tiny and we'd often have to sell them at a loss. One day I got text at 10pm to say that I need to show in in black suit pants, a white shirt, black tie and black shoes for the next day. It went on to say I had to remove all piercings and was required to cut my hair and dye it black as at the time I had a blue Mohawk. Not owning any of the items of clothing he wanted and starting work at. 8:30am I compromised and wore black jeans, black runners and a black shirt. Refused to but my hair or dye it but I did replace some my piercings with more discreet ones. When he arrived in at work at 11 he screamed and roared an went absolutely crazy making such a scene that the people working next store came running in to see what was happening. I told him he could stuff his job and left. Few hours later I got a call begging me to come back, he didn't understand how the till or stick system worked and had to close the shop early to deal with other stuff. I told him I'd go back but needed to be paid up to the end of the week and all arrears paid. He agreed so I thought screw it nothing better to do and as I was going to college that year every cent counted. He still insisted on the dress code but relented on the hair and piercings. Anyways I worked there another two weeks before one day I got to work and found my key no longer worked, taped to the window behind the shutter was an envelope with a letter that simply read you're fired. Turns out that he had hired a friend of his to replace me. Getting no notice annoyed me and the guy was a tosser but I really didn't care . 

    The store stayed up only a few weeks longer and afterward I discovered that when he fired me he'd hired a friend if his who was working for 4:50 an hour. The guy had maybe three words of English and between the two of them they knew nothing about music or the phones we sold. I'm pretty certain he'd planned to close the store and his insistence on the uniform was him hoping I'd quit or give him an excuse, why else send the text at 10pm the night before an 8:30 start. Loved how he had to come grovelling back and was really happy when the place closed. He's now facing serious legal trouble for his many under handed and illegal tricks including non payment of tax.

    Reckon that HMV may be trying a similar tactic and hoping to shed a good percentage of their long term staff and save a fortune if/when the company goes belly up. Personally it would put me off shopping there as one thing I like about HMV is how most of the staff have a clue about the music and films they sell. Most customers don't care if the guy has a tattoo on his face as long as he knows what he's talking about.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,558 ✭✭✭seven_eleven


    didn't the HSE try and introduce something similar a few weeks ago? ;)

    But thats completely understandable and I think most people wouldnt want their nurse, doctor, surgeon, healthcare assist or whatever to be displaying a big tattoo all up their arm, or having long greasy hair hanging down and not tied back. Its common decency and hygiene in the healthcare environment.
    They didnt try to implement the skirt thing either. I don't think any women wear skirts in the HSE anymore.

    But this is blood HMV, the place where people go to buy music, metal, dance, rap, all the things that they can express themselves with, love and dance to, and you would expect the staff to be fairly into the whole music thing too. This is just backwards. Although Im sure the new staff wont exactly be music ignorant either.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,560 ✭✭✭K.Flyer


    Was in Pennys not so long ago and was served by very nice, well presented and knowledgable staff member, fully attired in Penny's uniform.

    The fact that he had long(ish) hair and his tattoos were clearly visable made no difference to our shopping experience at all, good for you Pennys for hiring him.

    I am seriously surprised that HMV are coming out with nonsense like this.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,561 ✭✭✭Martyn1989


    Do you think this generation, the ones that are staff now, will end up being way cooler in regards to this sort of crap when they're behind a desk? The chain has to break at some point, right? Or will it always be some business school douche who thinks that appearance is more important than business ethic?

    I've thought about this before, I don't think it'll ever change, when your giving someone a job your taking a chance on them and the guy who takes out his ear ring and covers up the 666 he has tattoo'd on his forearm is always going to get the break over the guy that dosn't.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,538 ✭✭✭flutterflye


    If I had a job that I'd worked in for years, try to tell me to cut my hair - I'd be gone.
    Tattoos can be covered, and piercings can be temporarily removed.
    Having to wear a skirt isn't so bad.
    But I know tons of guys who have spent years growing their hair long (my husband included), and it's not fair to ask them to cut it or they get fired.


  • Administrators Posts: 56,306 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭awec


    Im always in the HMV is stephans green, as its hte nearest one for me and none of these rules apply to them. Will this only come into force in england? You cant force someone to hide their tattoos and piercings, its apart of who they are FFS and haircuts? Thats just a joke altogether.
    Yes you can.

    It's not all piercings. Just the silly looking ones.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,749 ✭✭✭✭grey_so_what


    Rock 'n Roll RIP.......

    Mr. Accountant Liquidator have your say.....:(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,538 ✭✭✭flutterflye


    awec wrote: »
    Yes you can.

    It's not all piercings. Just the silly looking ones.

    And which ones are "the silly looking ones"??
    Who's to say which are silly?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,417 ✭✭✭Miguel_Sanchez


    HMV isn't a music shop - it's a DVD/Blu-Ray/Games shop that happens to have a few CDs around somewhere if you can find them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,679 ✭✭✭Crooked Jack


    I must be one of the few people left who actually enjoys buying physical albums and DVDs and this, if enforced, will completely put me off going to my local HMV.
    This type of shit really pisses me off.
    Next time I'm down there I'm going to ask the staff if it's true and if it is then that's the last penny I'll ever spend there.
    Not that HMV will give a flying fuck but at least I'll feel better.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,299 ✭✭✭✭MadsL




  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,628 ✭✭✭darkdubh


    Not very rock n roll for a music shop.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,226 ✭✭✭Solair


    Hmm... you're really think HMV would have more important things to be doing like finding a new business model rather than trying to rehash debates that were resolved everywhere else in the 1950s-70s.

    Maybe they should look at why selling people music on bits of plastic is no longer really working out so well (in an era where a device the size of a matchbox can easily hold hundreds of times the content of one of their stores) rather than trying to annoy their staff with nonsense like this!?

    Not to mention that they might end up alienating a large % of the customers that still actually might have had loyalty to the concept of buying music in physical formats for old-times sake.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,041 ✭✭✭who the fug


    How are they going to enforce the skirts policy, mentioning any aspect of a ladies attire is not on. (even if I do like a lady in a skirt)

    Quiet happy about the tattoos and piercing thing, but then I am not of the market or generation HMV are aimed at and have no interest in their stores, so WTF are they up to ?


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