Name and Shame Job Bridge

ABajaninCork · 08-10-2012 03:34PM

Oh, most definitely! I've applied for Jobbridge roles with a certain multi-national company. I'm sure I've been unsuccessful in the applications, but an e-mail or phone call confirming this would be quite nice! A polite mail asking about the status was received (I got a receipt), and put in the PFO pile!

Maybe because it's Jobbridge, employers think we can be treated with even more contempt than we already are...

micromary · 08-10-2012 05:05PM

doovdela wrote: »

Mircomary have you considered going into the area of translation/teaching/lecturing/customer service where you you'd use your german language? What area is your discipline?

I am fluent in conversational German, but I have not worked in business German for a while, therefore I would love to improve this through a internship etc. However can't see any jobs in Dublin with languages. Of course our gob****e govt allow plenty of ****ty jobs but don't think of getting employers to list multilingual jobs.

SCOOP 64 · 08-10-2012 09:24PM

Description
The intern will gain practical experience in a pork processing company. The intern will receive formal/informal training in the following - skills associated with curing(specialist skills done by hand), packing(manual handling of bacon product learning correct method of packing for presentation and storage) and labelling (trained in the use of weighing machine and labelling machine and programming of same). They will receive training in HACCP, health & safety & manual handling. On completion the intern will have attained skills in pork processing and HACCP which they can use in other meat processing plants and similar establishments.

Skills Requirements
Ability to operate to production time lines. Able to stand for duration of shift - up to 8 hours.

Please Note:
This is an Internship. An allowance of €50 per week will be paid in addition to your current Social Welfare payment.See eligibility cvvriteria above.

If i took this would i be qualfied at the end of internship to pack meat at another meat processing plant?
would i stand a better chance of getting the job (€8.65) avg pay.

road_high · 08-10-2012 10:39PM

nig1 wrote: »

Description
The intern will gain practical experience in a pork processing company. The intern will receive formal/informal training in the following - skills associated with curing(specialist skills done by hand), packing(manual handling of bacon product learning correct method of packing for presentation and storage) and labelling (trained in the use of weighing machine and labelling machine and programming of same). They will receive training in HACCP, health & safety & manual handling. On completion the intern will have attained skills in pork processing and HACCP which they can use in other meat processing plants and similar establishments.

Skills Requirements
Ability to operate to production time lines. Able to stand for duration of shift - up to 8 hours.

Please Note:
This is an Internship. An allowance of €50 per week will be paid in addition to your current Social Welfare payment.See eligibility cvvriteria above.

If i took this would i be qualfied at the end of internship to pack meat at another meat processing plant?
would i stand a better chance of getting the job (€8.65) avg pay.

When will this sh!te ever end? What a shower of chancers. Would those overpaid idiots in FAS that allowed this ever cop themselves on.
I really despair here reading an ad like that. It's so so wrong.

RacoonQueen · 09-10-2012 09:36AM

Do people report these? and if so how? Can you just report them to FAS/jobbridge?

deelite · 09-10-2012 12:13PM

I've just been on the FAS jobs bank site, I normally skip over the intern positions however One in particular caught my eye - a "laundry assistant" all the usually guff - and at the end of your placement you should be able to iron and fold clothes.......Really. I honestly can't understand how this can be classed as an "internship" as I feel this is an actual job.

Hawk Wing 2 · 09-10-2012 12:19PM

from the Clare forum:

Lynch's Centra (aka Shiels') Ennis

Position: Shop Assistant
Number of Positions: 2
Duration: 9 months
Department: Shop Floor

Description
The intern will gain practical experience in: stock control. The intern will receive formal/informal training in the following: stock layout, health & safety, stock control and customer service. On completion the intern will have attained skills in: customer / staff liaison and retail.

Please Note:
This is an Internship. An allowance of €50 per week will be paid in addition to your current Social Welfare payment.See eligibility criteria above

Link: Lynch's Centra Shop Assistant ''Internship''

How to Apply
Applicants should click on the link below to download the application form. Complete and send by email to: payroll@centralynchs.com

RacoonQueen · 09-10-2012 12:51PM

Putting shop assistant into their search bar throws up depressing results. How can they approve that?

edit: just putting in assistant is worse. Laundry assistant. Seriously?

JohnMarston · 09-10-2012 01:07PM

deelite wrote: »

I've just been on the FAS jobs bank site, I normally skip over the intern positions however One in particular caught my eye - a "laundry assistant" all the usually guff - and at the end of your placement you should be able to iron and fold clothes.......Really. I honestly can't understand how this can be classed as an "internship" as I feel this is an actual job.

A lot of these 'internships' have actual work skills as pre-requisites, for the job you're supposed to be trained in.

ABajaninCork · 09-10-2012 01:11PM

RacoonQueen wrote: »

Do people report these? and if so how? Can you just report them to FAS/jobbridge?

You can make a complaint here: http://www.jobbridge.ie/feedback.aspx

RacoonQueen · 09-10-2012 02:26PM

ABajaninCork wrote: »

You can make a complaint here: http://www.jobbridge.ie/feedback.aspx

Would rather send an email so you have a copy of it jobbridgeapp@welfare.ie is the only actual email address they have on their site. Social welfare are a nightmare to contact.

allibastor · 09-10-2012 02:44PM

RacoonQueen wrote: »

Would rather send an email so you have a copy of it jobbridgeapp@welfare.ie is the only actual email address they have on their site. Social welfare are a nightmare to contact.

i have complained about a number of jobs with the job bank and been told politly to piss off and stop asking questions. i have also recently asked about our own intern and how they think asking us if we want them for another 3 months will actually help them in thier career.

RacoonQueen · 09-10-2012 03:36PM

If you took out all the internships which shouldn't be internships and stopped people who are already on bogus internships from doing them, I wonder that the figures would be? A short piece in the herald today about jobbridge including the number of people who leave their placement before it finishes. Seems they might finally be realising that people are being exploited.

allibastor · 09-10-2012 03:43PM

RacoonQueen wrote: »

If you took out all the internships which shouldn't be internships and stopped people who are already on bogus internships from doing them, I wonder that the figures would be? A short piece in the herald today about jobbridge including the number of people who leave their placement before it finishes. Seems they might finally be realising that people are being exploited.

they DO realise it is the problem, but what are they ging to do about it. Why would a business not get a free worker when the county councils do it all the time. I know around 9 people working for various councils now who were told from day 1 they will not get a job there. they just work cause it beats sitting at home. its that problem that the government are exploiting as many people feel being out of the house is the best they can hope for.

RacoonQueen · 09-10-2012 03:49PM

allibastor wrote: »

they DO realise it is the problem, but what are they ging to do about it. Why would a business not get a free worker when the county councils do it all the time. I know around 9 people working for various councils now who were told from day 1 they will not get a job there. they just work cause it beats sitting at home. its that problem that the government are exploiting as many people feel being out of the house is the best they can hope for.

Not only county councils, hospitals are full of FAS staff of some description. Whatever about being exploited by your local centra, to be exploited by your own government is something else all together. Seemingly, there are a lot of vacancies in the public sector that need to be filled. Either that or there are vacancies left by people who took redundancy and the people who worked with them don't want to do extra work so organisations are taking on interns to do that work...

allibastor · 09-10-2012 04:11PM

RacoonQueen wrote: »

Not only county councils, hospitals are full of FAS staff of some description. Whatever about being exploited by your local centra, to be exploited by your own government is something else all together. Seemingly, there are a lot of vacancies in the public sector that need to be filled. Either that or there are vacancies left by people who took redundancy and the people who worked with them don't want to do extra work so organisations are taking on interns to do that work...

They are just filling spots with free workers, i suppose they way they look at it is the governemnt are paying your dole and 50 euro so in thier eyes it means you are being paid.

I Just dont know what hope anyone in any field with 4 years or less exp has anymore with jobs, it must be cheaper to have a person in for 9 months for free and just to repeat that cycle then it does to hire someone, most people within a few weeks should be adept at thier given job.

donegal11 · 09-10-2012 04:44PM

here's the bit in the herald

allibastor · 09-10-2012 05:10PM

donegal11 wrote: »

here's the bit in the herald[/Quote

That bit from the herald is a bit all over the place, it say that over 10000 placements have started to date, that over 5500 have finished I presume and that only over 1000 have found work with the company who employed. Are all 4000 others just ****e so or what is going on. Do the Mensa candidates in government not think this is a problem?

micromary · 10-10-2012 08:31AM

More to the point. Do they care? It sounds good on paper as that is all FG/Lab/FF etc care about. The reality is totally different and they are not interested in that. These numskulls live in their own world until election time.

allibastor · 10-10-2012 08:51AM

micromary wrote: »

More to the point. Do they care? It sounds good on paper as that is all FG/Lab/FF etc care about. The reality is totally different and they are not interested in that. These numskulls live in their own world until election time.

but sure Joan melted welly face will then be spouting how it is giving people a chance to work, all the while not realising that a company would be willing to pay for workers if they could not get them for free. any company cannot hope to do business without manpower. its this faulted logic that gets me, by givin free labour they hope to do what exactly, a company will only come to depened on having a lower wage cost and it will distort thier books, and if tey do take someone one will have a bad reaction to thier balance sheet.

JohnMarston · 10-10-2012 08:53AM

I'm leaving my internship in a few months and i know im not getting a job out of this, but as was mentioned before, it beats sitting at home. The job i have has not replaced anyone, its an additional post.

Best you can do in this position is keep looking for work

professore · 10-10-2012 08:58AM

nig1 wrote: »

Description
The intern will gain practical experience in a pork processing company. The intern will receive formal/informal training in the following - skills associated with curing(specialist skills done by hand), packing(manual handling of bacon product learning correct method of packing for presentation and storage) and labelling (trained in the use of weighing machine and labelling machine and programming of same). They will receive training in HACCP, health & safety & manual handling. On completion the intern will have attained skills in pork processing and HACCP which they can use in other meat processing plants and similar establishments.

Skills Requirements
Ability to operate to production time lines. Able to stand for duration of shift - up to 8 hours.

Please Note:
This is an Internship. An allowance of €50 per week will be paid in addition to your current Social Welfare payment.See eligibility cvvriteria above.

If i took this would i be qualfied at the end of internship to pack meat at another meat processing plant?
would i stand a better chance of getting the job (€8.65) avg pay.

That is just funny. I learned all that in the summers when I was in college back in the early 90's and even then I was making more money for it than the Job Bridge scheme !!! That's tough work, not everyone can do it.

tatabubbly · 10-10-2012 01:10PM

Any jobs put up for the school science technicians in VECs.

Yes, you do have to require certain skills, HOWEVER, once I found out that these posts are PAID in the Uk, I've decided to relax on doing loads of work in the labs and find myself a worthwhile job with proper mentors. The science teachers here aren't mentoring me, just expecting me to take on classes that they get paid for

Was told by the principle that I'm not getting a job from this next year, they are getting a new intern next year!!!

donegal11 · 10-10-2012 01:28PM

^ you could say that about all the internships, they are all paying jobs in the uk and would be here if it wasn't for jobbridge.

Why would you take teachers classes, If they want that let them pay you as a sub at 50 euro an hour.

Also the scheme only runs to june so I think the principle might have a bit of bother finding someone but there is always community employment schemes. And also under the educational section in jobbridge the school would have to wait 6 months after you finish to get another intern.

miss choc · 10-10-2012 03:07PM

Congrats on your job

I applied for another Jobbridge had interview today and they called to say they are willing to take me on it's a 15 min walk away, 9-5 and it is a charity so don't mind it's a 9 mth. I am hoping job bridge wont mess me around now as the fiasco I had with the other job bridge ie (got a 9 mth in a public service place came back from hols and told me after 3 mths being there they had no work for me there busy season was Summer, grr was so cross why didnt they check if they had enough work for me to do in the first place. I had also turned down a 6 mth to take it) If jobridge wont allow me this 9mth because of the previous mess will be seriously pi**ed off and will complain fingers cross they will let me do it.
Would prefer to do a jb for a charity than a up their a*** public service company who treat interns like crap

Kruschev · 10-10-2012 03:43PM

The intern will gain practical experience in all areas of ink and toner refilling business and also learning how to interact with the public.... The intern will receive formal/informal training in the following: the art of ink refilling and laser toner refilling also basic computer skills. On completion the intern will have attained skills in refilling all types of ink refilling and also have a skills in dealing to customers

micromary · 10-10-2012 04:10PM

Just received this through when I got back. I wrote back are they taking the p**s. An interview in over 1 months time. Seriously these jobbridge companies go from 1 extreme to the other.

Thank you your application for the position of Coach Tour Operations Assistant as part of the JobBridge National Internship Scheme.

We would like to invite you to attend an interview between the 13th and 15th November between 11am-3pm at our office in Dublin 2. You will have an interview with the Department Manager and the Director. The interview will last about 45 minutes.

If the date or times for the interview are inconvenient, please reply by email in order to arrange another appointment.

We look forward to seeing you.

Solair · 10-10-2012 06:15PM

The problem is that the scheme isn't properly policed and there doesn't seem to be any adequate penalties for abusing it.

If employers had to sign a contract where by if they abused the scheme, they would be liable for say a payment of €30,000 they'd be a lot more careful about messing around.

Some companies are taking it seriously and doing worthwhile internships, others aren't or are looking for free labour.
It's all very hit and miss.

sligoface · 12-10-2012 03:41PM

Does anyone know who you contact to report the ads that are clearly inappropriate? I've seen one on the FAS website today for someone to work in Centra. As outrageous as it is on its own, last week I clearly remember seeing the same ad offered as a paying job. Obviously they found out about the jobbridge scheme and decided to take advantage and took down the other ad and replaced it as an internship. Unreal that they are allowed to do this.

JohnMarston · 12-10-2012 07:34PM

Last week i was at a party in sligo. My mate who organised it is on a jobbridge scheme up there.

His boss, or mentor i should say was making him write out an internship description for the fas job bank to advertise for the internship he is currently on so someone can immeadiately replace him. Seeing as they cannot take someone on for the same role right after him, he needed to re-word his job title.

Name and Shame Job Bridge

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